It's like, really bad to get into shouting matches with your Professor

[bicentennial_baby]

Not me, of course ;)

A classmate got into it with our Prof today, apparently. It hit its pinnacle at the point where he told her that he was getting an F because she's a bad teacher.

:wow:

3 things:

1) Er, not so cool to tell the 2nd highest ranked Prof in the Dept that she sucks at her job. And, she doesn't. It's the hardest class in the major.

2) You're totally going to get a bad rep in the Dept. now. I'm sure the Dept. Chair already heard about it, and will be glaring at you/asking to speak with you after our morning class (Our Dept is tiny, word travels fast)

3) The rest of us are laughing about it, we always knew you were an idiot and now you proved it.

:P

[Parche]

1. Thats What Gilligan Said Too

:woohoo: :hi:

[Pierre.Suave]

2. HAHA

I saw that happen in a class of mine too.

it was the last time we saw that girl in our class.

[bicentennial_baby]

3. He hasn't been in class in 2 weeks...

That was the origin of the "discussion"

What a dumbass...Or, as the Prof who he yelled at would say "What a knucklehead"

:D

I have a feeling that he'll be scarce around the Dept for the rest of the semester. He'll have to use the library computer labs, like the rest of the plebes.

:P

[Pierre.Suave]

4. What a Dumbass...

is right.

he is FUCKED if that is a class he needs for his major.

[bicentennial_baby]

5. Not so much "need", but...

Econometrics isn't a core class, but...1) Getting an F in it looks nasty on your transcripts, and 2) It's *really* good to have for Grad School.

But, he's going to get an MBA, so I'm sure he doesn't care. :eyes:

Econ majors and MBAs...Horses of a different color. :)

[Pierre.Suave]

6. hey now...

my beautiful, smart and oh so super awesome Fiance just finished her MBA. :P

She was an Econ undergrad though, and took Econometrics. I remember how much fun that was for her...

[bicentennial_baby]

8. I have nothing against them, we're just different...

Often people appear to blame the economic woes of the country on Economists, but in reality, it's people with business/finance degrees that are more involved, as well as Congress and the Executive branch. Leave us alone!

:P

Yeah, Econometrics, big time fun. I'm just starting my research paper for it. Oof. Luckily, I did well in the presentation data lottery, and I don't have to present until 5/13, the last day. Whew! :D

[tjwmason]

15. Econometrics, fun?

Two words I'd never have imagined seeing together...econometrics were the only part of economics which I didn't enjoy to some degree, but we all enjoy different things (and rightly so).

You're absolutely right about economists vs. business/financey people, that and people who decide that they understand economics (better than economists sometimes) without ever having studied it (the biggy over here being Margaret Thatcher).

[Fox Mulder]

7. I've done it before.

The asshole prof deserved it.

He had no business teaching.

[bicentennial_baby]

9. Understood. This one didn't deserve it though

She's a fine Professor, very fair. The material's tough, but if you really make an effort, it's not that bad.

[Inchworm]

10. I can't wait to go back to school

and argue with professors.

It's a sport. :P

:hi:

[skygazer]

11. Have you ever been to rateyourprofessor.com?

I've popped in there to see what people say about various profs I have or will have and I find it pretty amusing.

Every prof I've ever had that actually taught - made a class learn something rather than kept it stupidly easy with throwaway t/f, multiple choice exams, etc. - gets a bunch of remarks about how bad a teacher they are while the ones who are pretty much putting time in and don't really teach much but pass the entire class get big kudos.

There are some people who will always blame someone else for thier failures. I call them "morans." :P

[bicentennial_baby]

12. I caught my Dept Chair on there!

:rofl:

I always check them out before the semester starts...sometimes before registering. :P

This particular classmate, who used to be my friend until I couldn't stand him anymore and stopped speaking to him, doesn't like it "when women yell at me".

:eyes:

[RoyGBiv]

13. Good advice generally ...

If yer pissed at someone in any kind of position where they can screw you over, a shouting match is hardly ever the way to go. Even if the complaint is legit, you're gonna end up in a bad spot going that route.

To put it another way, don't fuck with the guy who makes your breakfast, or that cream in your coffee's gonna turn out to be something other than cream.

[Xithras]

14. A point my own students have learned more than once.

Since I teach computer science, I fairly regularly get people in my class who do not have the prerequisite knowledge required for a 200+ level programming course. I can usually identify them in the first few classes and usually encourage them to drop and take an introductory level course before attempting my own. 9 out of 10 do, but the 10% who refuse are always fun and are the source on 99% of my in-class entertainment. I've had students yell at me in class for dumping unreasonable amounts of work on them in a short period of time, and have heard the very complaint you mentioned, that I'm a "bad teacher because my students don't get it", several times.

But, it's my personal policy not to dock students for their behavior or opinions. I may throw them out of that particular days class for being disruptive, but they're welcome back during the next one if they behave themselves.

I've had actual physical confrontations with students before too, but those tend to be over different sorts of things. A couple of years ago I had a parollee student take a few swings at me in class. He'd been admitted as part of a jail-to-jobs education program and decided to pursue a career in computers. He bungled an assignment, didn't appreciate the D I gave him (or my reasons for giving it), and took a swing at me when I refused to change the grade. He was actually sent back to prison for that one (another student called security, who called the police, who arrested him and notified his parole officer). I love teaching, but some people have serious personality issues.