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Sat May-31-08 08:41 PM
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My brother just told me he was molested by our parish priest when he was 10 |
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I am not surprised, and yet...it blows my mind.
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Sat May-31-08 08:47 PM
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1. How awful, gray!! Is he getting any help, or has he? |
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And has he reported it to the authorities, and/or the church?
This behavior pisses me off so completely!! I hope your brother is alright.
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Sat May-31-08 08:49 PM
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I wish the best for you and your family. :hug:
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Sat May-31-08 08:53 PM
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3. It happened years ago when he was a kid |
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He said he never told anyone because he felt our dad would beat the crap out of him. Now I understand his need to be in a biker gang.
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Sat May-31-08 08:55 PM
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4. Beat up the priest or him? |
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Sat May-31-08 08:56 PM
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Sat May-31-08 08:57 PM
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Sat May-31-08 08:59 PM
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Sat May-31-08 08:58 PM
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It's good you two have each other.
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Sat May-31-08 08:59 PM
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8. He just called me after 6 years of silence |
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Twice this week. And he wants to come up and visit next weekend. Something is up. I think he is ill.
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Sat May-31-08 09:00 PM
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I hope not. Maybe he's just getting older and wants to touch base. That happened with one of my sisters and I last year. :hug:
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Sat May-31-08 09:04 PM
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13. He told me he had a bone disorder |
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He is so secretive...always looking over his shoulder.
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Sun Jun-01-08 02:05 PM
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have done that to you brother? OR did your brother "think" that is what would happen?
I am so sorry that this happened.
:(
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Sat May-31-08 09:50 PM
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19. When I told my parents they called me all sorts of names |
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wanted me to apologize to the priest etc. From there on we had some uncomfortably tense times. One good thing was my dad was not violent.
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Sun Jun-01-08 01:37 AM
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34. Are you meaning they didn't believe you? |
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Or worse than that, that you seduced the priest?
JEESH!
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Sun Jun-01-08 11:14 AM
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36. Any words spoken against the CHURCH and especially a priest |
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were blasphemy. In my case it was a monsignor, so it was like a double blasphemy. Both my parents died youngish, so the split didn't last long.
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Sat May-31-08 08:59 PM
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i hope he is getting help
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Sat May-31-08 09:00 PM
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11. Calling me and telling me is about as much help as he will accept |
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Sat May-31-08 09:13 PM
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14. And it IS help, with sharing the load he's been carrying. |
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Kind of an honor for you, too. :thumbsup:
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Sat May-31-08 09:16 PM
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15. Yeah, that is true, isn't it? |
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Sat May-31-08 09:21 PM
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16. Words aren't nearly sufficient so |
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all's I got is this, sweetie, one for each of ya: :hug: :hug:
I really hope the two of you are able to come together for some really meaningful time and that your suspicions about his health are only that.
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Sat May-31-08 09:25 PM
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Our recent phone conversation proved to be the most honest we've had since we were kids.
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Sat May-31-08 09:49 PM
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18. Good for him for letting the secret out. That is a HUGE deal for him. And for you. |
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Sat May-31-08 09:52 PM
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Edited on Sat May-31-08 09:53 PM by graywarrior
He told me he ran into this priest back in the 70's and confronted him and the priest said "you were always a weirdo." Nice.
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Sat May-31-08 10:09 PM
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21. Yup. That's the way they all sound. Its all the kids fault and problem don't you know. |
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Sickening fuckers.
I hope you and your brother continue to talk when he can and you can listen.
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Sat May-31-08 10:14 PM
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The more I read the posts here, the better I feel about him saying something to me about it.
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Sat May-31-08 10:22 PM
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23. Been down this road. His comments will come in fits and starts. Be patient. |
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Sat May-31-08 10:24 PM
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24. Thanks. I have a feeling he won't mention it again. |
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I have all the patience in the world when it comes to him.
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Sat May-31-08 10:34 PM
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25. You're probably right as it takes tremendous courage to acknowledge it to a family member |
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Sometimes its an impulsive decision and sometimes its after a great deal of thought. BUT...
He brought it to you...so what that means is this...if you have questions about how he feels about it all, you may ask him... but wait awhile. The wound is rawest after a disclosure and he will not welcome any feeling that suggests curiosity. Not that you would.
The thing about holding a secret like this for so long is that it then becomes the only control one has over what could not and was not controlled. So its really uncomfortable to let go of. Then there are the particulars surrounding the abuse that can also affect how he sees things. Things like his age, your age, when, where, and how long the abuse took place.
You know and I know the priest was a bastard. He may have some conflicting feelings about that or he may have progressed further and be more rational.
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Sat May-31-08 10:38 PM
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26. He told me after joking about our mother's doctor being his real dad. |
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That was one of the vicious arguments that went on between my parents...my dad was extremely jealous of any other guys including my brother. After we kinda laughed about that he told me about the priest. It came out as a second thought.
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Sat May-31-08 10:43 PM
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27. Excuse me for acting like a know it all...I mean no disrespect. From what you said.. |
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he's probably been wanting to tell you for some time.
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Sat May-31-08 10:45 PM
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28. It just took him 6 years to call me |
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You may be right. He was more honest this time than ever before. Last time we talked it was quips and barbs.
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Sat May-31-08 10:49 PM
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29. Is he older or younger than you gray? |
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Sat May-31-08 10:52 PM
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Th bravest thing about it is he knows I have been sober for over 20 years and he still drinks. Yet, he trusted me enough to lay it all out there
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Sat May-31-08 10:56 PM
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31. So you are his hero....that's a pretty special place to be in someone's heart. |
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Well he has some healing to do and you know you can't do it for him. But you can insist that he do more than contact you every six years. So lean on him a little for that.
I'm so sorry, its a heartbreaker to have a family member tell you this and doubly so when its a priest. Makes you question just about everything.
Good luck to you and your loved ones.
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Sat May-31-08 10:58 PM
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You have really helped a lot. Have a great night.
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Sat May-31-08 11:03 PM
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33. My pleasure and good night to you also. You're a good brother. |
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Sun Jun-01-08 10:38 AM
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it sounds kind of ominous that he's contacting you, wanting to talk and visit now. I hope your brother is okay. :(
:hug:
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Sun Jun-01-08 03:43 PM
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41. That's what I told Mr Gray. |
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Sounds like he may need someone to take care of him.
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Sun Jun-01-08 11:31 AM
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37. Now that he's told you his secret |
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he needs your acceptance. that love is there - the kind that siblings have, sometimes buried, but there because you shared the same parents and all their stuff growing up.
he trusts you with his biggest secret. he loves you. love him back.
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Sun Jun-01-08 02:23 PM
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39. I'm glad he felt he could trust you enough to tell you |
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He must really love you. It can take years before you can talk about something like that. Thing is, stuff like that can still hurt years later. Only my lover knows the details of me being molested, and it took years before I could even admit I was raped (and I've never told anyone the whole story). I'm glad he has you. There is a lot of trust and love in him telling you that.
Hugs to you and your brother, Khash.
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Sun Jun-01-08 03:44 PM
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42. I just want to hug you, Khash. |
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Sun Jun-01-08 03:56 PM
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I'll accept a hug from you any time! But give the hugs for me to your brother, he probably needs them more. Until he doesn't, I'll wait and then you can hug me all you want to.
Khash.
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Sun Jun-01-08 03:42 PM
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40. DAMN IT. My heart goes out to him |
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It's stories like this that make me want to believe in hell. :grr:
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