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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 09:59 PM
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BSG show tonight...(spoilers)
They found Earth.

It's been devastated.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:01 PM
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1. It would have been great if
Adama collapsed in front of the Statue of Liberty and started yelling "YOU BLEW IT UP! DAMN YOU!!!" ala Planet of the Apes.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:01 PM
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2. Yeah that was cool
I had NO idea what to expect when they got down there.

The 4 have outed themselves. There is one more, somewhere.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:03 PM
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5. Did you get the feeling that the last Cylon had to be on the basestar?
Deanna said "FOUR" in the fleet. So who? Adama? Roslin? Baltar? Helo?
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:06 PM
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6. I was thinking it had to be that, or the 5th was on Earth
the second one was ruled out at the end of the episode.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:02 AM
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16. Not necessarily. There would be no tactical advantage to nuking rural areas,
So there would be survivors of a cataclysmic nuclear war.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:24 AM
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23. True - there were survivors on New Caprica
after it got nuked...
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:01 PM
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3. That so rocked. Adama's breakdown was so well done.
Everything about this show is flawless.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:01 PM
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4. Wow....just....wow......
Edited on Fri Jun-13-08 10:02 PM by Cannikin
No other words yet.

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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:12 PM
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7. It was a pretty damn good episode
Now I wonder where they go from here?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:25 PM
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9. Back to save the first human/Vulcan meet-up, I suspect
:evilgrin:
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 08:11 AM
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25. HAHA
Edited on Sat Jun-14-08 08:11 AM by jasonc
That would be something.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:58 AM
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14. As far as the show, or humanity?
For the show, there are two major mysteries to solve: 1. Who is the final Cylon, and 2. Who manufactured Starbuck's Viper? They're also still at war with the Ones, Fours, and Fives.

For humanity, they have to find the habitable sections of the planet and decide if they're worth settling, and search the planet, Sol System, and neighboring systems for survivors, as well as preparing to defend themselves against the Cylon fleets.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:15 PM
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8. The last few episodes had time travel involved. So I'm guessing they are going to be able to go back
and save Earth.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:17 AM
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18. Not necessarily. There could be a non-supernatural explanation for
Starbuck's Viper, and the visions of dead people could just be hallucination.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 09:49 AM
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26. There's a non-supernatural explanation for her Viper, she went through that wormhole and arrived
at Earth pre-Apocalypse and they sent her back in a shiny new Viper along with the ability to find Earth again so that she could stop the pending destruction. Now they need to find out how to get back through that wormhole so they can get back to Earth at a different point on the timeline. The wormhole is the missing piece. That's assuming that they won't leave the story with such a dark ending. Maybe they're just out of luck and need to find yet another new home. I think they gave us enough hints through the last few episodes that I believe time travel is involved and the climax will come when they figure out a way to avoid the destruction of Earth, like they were unable to do with Caprica. They'll get a second chance to heal the wounds of war with the Cylons and avoid the mistakes they made with the destruction of Caprica.

Question is, was the destruction caused by them arriving at Earth in the first place? Are they simply completing the circle by returning to Earth where they started the battle? In other words, did they destroy Earth and flee to Caprica and now that Caprica is destroyed, are they returning to Earth? In order for them to send Starbuck back with a new Viper, they had to have the Viper technology in the first place, so how did they get it? Did the tech originate on Earth, or was it brought there by the Galactica?

The visions of dead people were just Roslyn's conscience speaking to her, so I wasn't viewing that as a time travel indicator.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 10:25 AM
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27. Maybe
the final 5 caused the destruction of earth on their initial visit there?

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:27 PM
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10. I watched the web version
and was trying to make out if the wreckage they were in could resemble a smashed and rotten Battlestar.

That would be cool, but I couldn't tell.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 11:47 PM
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13. I think it was New York City
the very last image before cutting away to the credits appeared to be the Brooklyn Bridge looking towards Manhattan.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:59 AM
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15. I thought it looked like they were on Ellis island, as homage to the revelation scene
From Planet of the Apes.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:01 PM
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30. Thats exactly what i was thinking
"You blew it up you damned dirty apes!"
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:32 PM
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11. Never watched it
Too many bad connotations with the seventies series. Would now a good time to jump in?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-13-08 10:34 PM
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12. Start from the beginning. Including the Pilot eps
It's a Stellar show through the first three seasons at least
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:24 AM
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22. No - you really need to start from the miniseries that started it all
It's really a 4 season-long maxi-series where most things are connected, so you can't really pick it up now without missing a ton of things.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 01:04 AM
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17. And now we can breathe a sign of relief, because there will be no Galactica 2010.
Deep down, every real fan feared a Galactica 1980 remake.
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JTG of the PRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:05 AM
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19. I was stunned. I felt emotionally drained by the end of the episode.
I was convinced that the last half of the season was going to be a race to Earth... Not two minutes later - HOLY CRAP!! They're AT Earth!!!! HOLY CRAP!!!!

And them moments later... :wow:

Earth has been decimated. Nobody lives there. It looks like nobody's lived there for quite a long time. Something happened a long time ago...

But what? And how did Starbuck get back to the fleet with a fully repaired Viper? Where is the 5th super-secret Cylon model?

The last half of this season couldn't possibly come fast enough... SIGH.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 02:29 AM
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20. I knew it wasn't going to end well when they jumped into close orbit,
And there were no satellites on DRADAS, no orbital defense platforms, no radio transmissions, no intercepting fighters, and no anti-aircraft missiles. Even in the modern day, they could not have made that landing unmolested.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 07:06 AM
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21. I was wondering about that, too
even if they had come upon earth at 20,000 BC, they should have picked up life signs and all, no?
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 08:08 AM
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24. Im not sure if they've ever displayed the ability to detect life signs in the Star Trek sense on BSG
It seems like they detect water, tilium, algae, etc. by chemical analysis or something, but nothing specific enough to be able to detect humans.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 01:33 PM
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38. They use spectral analysis to detect chemical composition by reflected energy,
As do modern astronomers.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:17 AM
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28. That bothered me too
And wouldn't they have had a probe to detect the conditions first?

But I guess that wouldn't have made for such a dramatic ending.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:32 AM
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29. It was quite obvious to me they were just building up the biggest possible
cliff-hanger by rushing everything forward as fast as possible. They could have cut to them jumping near Earth and ended the season. Or even a Raptor coming back and saying it's there.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:03 PM
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31. But what a cliffhanger it was!
Of course, now we have to wait, and wait, and wait, for the last episodes.

I'm looking forward to them, it's going to be interesting to see how they handle the disappointment of finding Earth, only to find that it's gone through its own cataclysm, how the very tenuous human/cylon alliance holds up, and of course, who is the final cylon.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 12:30 PM
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32. I'm fine waiting
compared to watching the first few seasons, my level of excitement towards the show has plummeted.

Someone remind me when it starts up again.
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galledgoblin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 04:14 PM
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33. they still haven't solved the building cylon "worker class" rebellion, either
I thought that was what the cliffhanger was going to be, the shuttles entering the atmosphere and then the accompanying raiders opening fire.

this was a bigger kick in the balls.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:08 PM
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34. I'm surprised that the Centurions didn't take over immediately after
The Resurrection Hub mission. Surely, they noticed that they were the only ones with guns and everyone else just became mortal.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:12 PM
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35. The Centurions must have rather limited interests. I don't see them
taking up knitting. Their presence raises a bunch of questions. Like, if all Centurions have two guns for hands, who loads the guns? There must be an entire class of Cylons we haven't seen yet that takes care of the Centurions, the Raiders, etc.
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:16 PM
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36. The Centurions have spindly, sharp fingers.
The guns unfold from their elbows.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-14-08 11:21 PM
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37. OK - missed that. Still, do you see them developing other hobbies?
Also, do you suppose they talk to each other when no skin jobs are looking?
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