My school's better than your school..

[crimsonblue]

My National Championship Kansas Jayhawks had 5, count em, FIVE, players be selected in the NBA draft.

Brandon Rush, 13th pick (Portland, traded to Indiana)

Darrell Arthur, 27th (New Orleans, traded to Portland) *he slipped this far down because there were spurious and completely false allegations that he had some sort of kidney problem.. He should have been a lottery pick

Mario Chalmers, 34th pick (Minnesota, traded to Miami)

Darnell Jackson, 52nd pick (Miami)

Sasha Kaun, 56th pick (Seattle) *he has a $1 million offer to play in Russia, and he graduated with honors with a degree in computer science (and held a lucrative internship the previous two summers).

My Kansas Jayhawks saw the largest single draft from any one school (tying with Connecticut from a few years back)

It just goes to show: CHAMPIONSHIPS are helpful and CHAMPIONS are usually well-rewarded.

[huskerlaw]

1. N'UH!!!

Ok, who am I kidding? My school might as well not even have a basketball team.

We have your ass beat in football though.



;)

[crimsonblue]

2. did your team win the Orange bowl or another BCS bowl this year?

Or did your team lose by like, 39 points, and allow mine to score on TEN CONSECUTIVE possessions?

(I assume by your sn that you are a Nebraska fan..)

[huskerlaw]

3. Hahahaha

as if one year makes up for your very long history of suckage.

Let's have a conversation when KU football has won 5 National Championships and 46 conference championships.

By the way, what is KU's lifetime record against my Huskers in football?? :evilgrin:

[crimsonblue]

5. You got me there...

KU has 5 National Championships and FIFTY ONE Conference Championships in basketball. Yes, The National Championships from 1922 and 1923 count. I'm sure you will debate this, but the football championship is just a mythical national championship as the National Championships awarded KU by the Helms Foundation. So, it appears you lose in all respects on this one. Oh, by the way, those fifty-one conference championships? They're more than any other school in the country.

KU and Nebraska were original members of the old MVIAA (then eventually became the Big 8), and KU had 43 total conference basketball championships (32 alone) from 1907-1996 while Nebraska had 7 total championships (2 alone). So, in the span of the 89 year history of the MVIAA/Big 8, KU won or shared nearly half of the conference championships awarded. To be fair, in football NU had 41 total/30 alone, while KU had 5 total/2 alone. It is noteworthy that the Big 12 is a completely different conference from the Big 8 and does not claim the Big 8 history as its own (well, they claim not too, but they like stealing the old titles and records from the Big 8.. It's funny nothing is ever mentioned of the old Southern Conference...)


In Big 12 play, KU has 8 regular conference championships in basketball (3 shared), Nebraska has none. In addition, KU has 6 tournament conference championships (and a 6-1 record). Nebraska has not tournament titles, nor even a title game appearance.

In Big 12 football, Nebraska is 2-2 in tournament championship games, while KU has no appearances (thank you Lew for last year-- If the Ku-Mizzery game were in Lawrence like it should have been, I would have been partying in New Orleans in early January).

If you add up all the collective conference championships, it stands KU basketball- (51 total conference / 35 shared conference / 6 conference tournament / 5 National Championships) NU football- (46 total conference / 5 National championship / 2 shared National Championships). It should be noted that conference tournament championships for KU is only for Big 12.

So, KU and Nebraska have been dominant in their respect sports. KU invented basketball. Nebraska invented routine weight lifting and conditioning. However, our James Naismith, Phog Allen (and his coaching of Adolf Rupp, Dean Smith, Dutch Lonborg, Ralph Miller-- all HOF coaches), Larry Brown, Roy Williams, Bill Self, Max Falkenstein, and the myriad of HOF players trumps your Bob Devaney, Biff Jones, Tom Osborne, Eddie Robinson, your select Heisman Winners, and your retarded blow up doll Mascot. We'll call Fielding Yost a push, although he did better at KU than NU.


So, take delight in your football pride. But KU has been more dominant than NU in less time, and in a sport where dominance is harder to come by and maintain (especially since basketball takes more skill to play).

So, you see, you can clammer all you want, but Nebraska will always be in Kansas's shadow. The state of Nebraska is so boring that it isn't even ever mentioned.

[Mr. Blonde]

7. As long as we are mixing and matching sports

I have to throw my beloved OSU Cowboys into the mix. Especially since they have the single most successful athletic program of any sport at any level.

OSU Wrestling
34 National Titles
32 Big 8 or XII Titles
133 Individual National Champions
422 All-Americans
No finish lower than 7th at the national tournament
34 Olympians including 10 champions who won 12 titles (I believe OSU is in the top 10 of countries for total medal count)


Kansas did at one time have a wrestling program, OSU was 4-0 against them before they dropped it.
Nebraska still does have a program, OSU 48-3-1 against them.
They do not have a losing record against anyone. At home their winning percentage is about 97%. Overall their winning percentage is approximately 90%.

For the next closest team to catch them for total number of national champions they would have to win every weight (10) through 2014. OSU has had at least one champion in 62 of 77 national tournaments.

[crimsonblue]

10. how many people watch wrestling?

like, maybe 5? :P

[Mr. Blonde]

12. True there are far fewer people who follow wrestling

and that number does vary widely depending on where you are. Sadly, even OSU's attendance isn't as high as you would think it would be for such a successful program. This is going to pain me deeply to say, but through thick and thin, Iowa Hawkeye fans are very dedicated and will do a very good job of filling up Carver Hawkeye for duals.

I also realize that your post was mostly in jest, but I do have a little more to add. Fans also does not make the achievement of wrestlers any less than Football or Basketball players. In fact, I think there is a good case for their achievement being greater.

Sorry, I have seen people truly try to diminsh wrestler's accomplishments because of a lack of popularity. It is rather unjust.

[fishwax]

13. and I would like to throw the Oklahoma Sooners into the mix

They certainly can't match OSU in wrestling (nobody can), nor can they match Kansas in basketball, but they've got them all beat in football, and when it comes to the two money sports--football and men's basketball--they've got a combo that's hard to beat. :)

[crimsonblue]

15. two words

Boise State

[fishwax]

17. one word: Bucknell

:shrug:

[crimsonblue]

21. hmm..

fair enough.. but without bucknell, we'd have no Brandon Rush, and thus no National Championship, so I will take it...

You are luckier than shit you guys didn't face us this yr in the Big 12 Champ (because Lew Perkins was a douchebag and decided to move the border war to fucking Mizzery permanently... asshat), otherwise we would have won the Nat Champ.

[fishwax]

32. If they couldn't beat Mizzou in Arrowhead, how would they beat an even better OU team?

Don't get me wrong, the "neutral field" scheduling of that game was unfortunate for Kansas, and I think they would have had a great chance to win it in Lawrence, but in the Big 12 Championship Game the Sooners dominated the Tigers; it was not a competitive game in the second half. So I don't quite buy that we were "lucky" not to have to face a Kansas team that lost to those Tigers the week before :)

Still, though, the Jayhawks had a great season, and I was thrilled to see it. The Orange Bowl was a great game, and I was happy to see them win it. I've always liked Mangino, and I hope he keeps Kansas performing at a high level. But he'll have his hands full in Norman on October 18 :D

[crimsonblue]

34. i'll admit

we probably won't win at Norman; they're tough to beat at home.. but taking away a home game and making it neutral is bullshit, IMO. I'd atleast have liked to see KU play OU in the title game; it would have been a better game, as KU's defense matched up much better with OU (the only reason we lost to Mizzery was because our offense was uncharacteristically anemic, and we still came back and almost won it).

Oh well, I'll take a BCS bowl win, especially since we were the only BCS winners in the big 12 this year.

[fishwax]

36. I agree that Kansas and OU would have been a better championship game

Though most Sooner fans were happy to get the chance to shut up some obnoxious Missouri internet fans, who kept insisting that our first win over the Tigers was a fluke and that they would beat us on a neutral field :eyes: (Sentiments, incidentally, also voiced by some Tiger players, including Chase "Booger" Daniel :eyes::eyes:.)

In the end, though, the result was better for everyone--OU whooped up on Mizzou and Kansas still got a BCS bid and win :)

So what's the forecast for the Jayhawks this year?

[crimsonblue]

41. not as good as last year...

I'd probably say 7-5 or 8-4 (which is still remarkedly better than a couple years ago). They might be able to compete for a big 12 north title, but I don't see a BCS bowl in our future this year. In basketball, I'd say we will win 23-36 games (as usual) and go to the NCAA tourney and win a couple of games... nothing too special, but both teams are allowed a down year, imo.

[mnhtnbb]

19. Yeah, but neither one of your schools has produced a Michael Jordan!

Go Heels!

[crimsonblue]

6. more....

since you asked, KU's record against NU in football is 23-88-3. You have dominated us. This past school year in Football and Basketball, KU is 49-4, an all time record.

[proud2BlibKansan]

4. Rock Chalk!!

[Rhythm]

8. Yeah, but you're schools stuck in Kansas

:sarcasm:

Let's Go Mountaineers!!!

[crimsonblue]

9. At least I don't have to deal with all

those bitter people who clings to their guns and religion. :P

[Rhythm]

14. 'Round here, we cling to our beer and couch fires!

[JTG of the PRB]

11. Yeah, but my school is (was) the University of Colorado.

Ain't NOTHING better than that!

(Please don't trash my school too much... I'm very, VERY drunk right now.)

[elshiva]

16. Yeah, but the College of Notre Dame of Maryland has

a great field hockey team.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

46. You mean CONDOM?

:)

I've got quite a few CONDOM ties.

[knitter4democracy]

18. Considering I went to a podunk Christian college, um, yeah.

Yours is definitely better.

[MadHound]

20. Yeah, but Missouri kicked your ass in football,

And overall, despite your illegitimate Orange Bowl and your Bball championship, MU's athletic department did better overall than KU's.

Oh, and it's still Kansas:eyes:

[crimsonblue]

23. hmmm

Keep dreaming, fuckwad... I guess you inbreds have to justify your shittiness somehow.. Get back to me when you actually make a Final 4 or BCS bowl, but that'll probably never happen.

KU-- 2008 ORANGE BOWL CHAMPIONS. 2008 COLLEGE BASKETBALL NATIONAL CHAMPIONS

Mizzery-- NO-TIME FINAL FOUR PARTICIPANTS, AND CHEATERS UNDER QUINN "GREASER" SNYDER (under some miracle, Ricky Clemons earned 22 hours in ONE summer before transferring to MU). Go suck a nut, loser mizzery fans. I know you're angry because you lost the civil war and all (not to mention you killed hundreds of innocents because you wanted to expand your evil hatred of blacks to kansas). Maybe next year you guys will actually not suck at bball... hahaha man I crack myself up.


MUCK FIZZOU

[MadHound]

44. LOL, and despite those championships last year,

You apparently haven't learned how to play nice, even in a rivalry situation. Instead, you decide to be a true asshole. Way to look good for your team, NOT.

A bit of ribbing, some cracks back and forth, sure, that's all good. But calling me a fuckwad, when you don't even know me is over the top. Fuck off and die loser. It isn't you who is pulling down those championships, it is the KU teams. All you're doing is making an ass out of yourself and reflecting badly on your team. I guess those comments about "inbred" and "shittiness" are projections on your part.

Oh, and the Civil War was ended over 130 years ago, and it has little relevance to today's rivalry. And it would be rather hard for me to hate blacks asshole, since I have AA blood myself.

Oh, one more question, are you guys finally teaching evolution again, or is your fundy powerbase still keeping you folks ignorant?

[crimsonblue]

26. "despite your Orange Bowl and Bball Championship"....

Yeah... let's just ignore two major victories... let's not count a BCS Bowl win nor an NCAA Championship.. Tell me, how many championships has Mizzery won in any sport? oooh, baseball (once in 1954) and track and field (once in 1965). Once you losers decide to win a real championship, let me know.

Sincerely,
the 2008 (not to mention 1922, 1923, 1952, and 1988) Basketball National Championship and Orange Bowl Winners KANSAS JAYHAWKS (who kicked your freaking ass in the civil war)

[Pierre.Suave]

22. One word...

MICHIGAN!

[crimsonblue]

24. you can thank NU and KU for Fielding Yost

And he learned quite a bit from Dr James Naismith himself.. So, you're welcome... But as long as you assholes beat Notre Dame, I could care less. haha.

[crimsonblue]

25. oh, btw

you guys didn't invent football, but we sure as hell invented not only college basketball, but also basketball coaching... Phog Allen coached and mentored Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, and Ralph Miller (just to name a few HOF). He would have been the coach for Wilt Chamberlain-- and assuredly won another Nat Champ, but he was forced into retirement (due to bs KS law that dictated that state employees retire at 65-- otherwise, he would have coached until his death {by his own words})

[Pierre.Suave]

27. People still play basketball?

Never noticed...

:P

[crimsonblue]

28. college basketball

is only the most exciting 3 weeks in all of sports.... plus if I do recall correctly, the KU-Memphis Nat Champ game had higher rating then the worthless- "we'll go ahead and let computers decide because we are greedy bastards who don't give a damn about the sport"-- BCS championship game.

[Pierre.Suave]

30. I hate the clusterfuck that is the BCS

trust me, a gang of monkeys could have come up with a better plan than the bullshit they call a championship series.

[crimsonblue]

29. also

College basketball is the only amateur sport that still far surpasses its professional counterpart. hmm... NCAA bowls or NFL playoffs and superbowl? hm.. college world series or real world series?

[Pierre.Suave]

31. I actually swore off the NFL a while back

I hate watching overpaid felons play football...

I do enjoy college football, particularly Michigan football.

however, I am not really that into sports, except for Michigan football and MN Twins baseball.

[crimsonblue]

33. I'd say that NFl and NCAA fball

are on par with each other, mainly due to the fact that the NFL has the best officials of any sport, and what's better than getting drunk at 6am and walking to to stadium in college ball.. But bball is king.. especially in the house that Phog built, Brown sustained, Williams lifted up to a new level, and Self dominates in (and will eventually be named after him). I've been to fball games at KSU, NU, and OU, and nothing can compare to a college bball game at the phog. I recommend to anyone that hasn't-- GO SEE A COLLEGE BASKETBALL GAME AT ALLEN FIELD HOUSE BEFORE YOU DIE; YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED.

[Pierre.Suave]

35. Have you ever been to a football game at

the Bighouse? it is quite amazing to be there.

it is amazing. Every home game, Michigan sells out more seats than the Vikings do in month...

[crimsonblue]

37. i'll call bs...

Michigan holds, what, 108 thous?

The metrodome holds what, 64 thous?


Assuming a MI sellout and 85% Vikings attendance, the Vikings would equal attendance in 2 weeks...

Is the bighouse really that great anymore, though? Especially since they moved to field turf and did away with the marshmallow toss?

[Pierre.Suave]

39. I thought the Bighouse held

117+ thousand.

The Vikings are always under threat of having a black out here for not selling enough tickets.

The Metrodome has 64,000 seats.

Plus, the Vikings are not there 4 weekends a month.

[crimsonblue]

43. next year i doubt they will..

plus two games a month isn't far fetched... anyway, it's not like MI is going to win it all next year... they have a sell out of a coach that will probably be run out in a few years, much like lloyd carr was.

[Pierre.Suave]

47. Lloyd Carr was there for a hell of a lot more than a few years...

he was there during the Bo Schembechler days as well...

[crimsonblue]

38. plus the metrodome is one of the worst venues in all of sports...

right after the oakland coliseum...

[Pierre.Suave]

40. Why do you say that?

[crimsonblue]

42. because the field sucks

the views from the stands suck, the stadium is old and decrepit, plus the vikings usually suck. Playing on shitty old astro turf with huge seams is not my idea of quality. but it is cool that the pitcher's mound is on a platform that raises and lowers.

[Wapsie B]

45. University of Iowa wrestlers won their 21st national championship

in March of this year, along with their 32nd Big 10 title.