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Sat Feb-21-04 10:40 PM
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Poll question: Who's the Most F*d Up Movie Director? |
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Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 10:42 PM by Crisco
Talking relatively modern. Tonight, I say Russell (just got done watching Gothic). Tomorrow?
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:44 PM
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1. Hmmm .. Dead Ringers fans In the House? |
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:50 PM
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all those creepy instruments, shooting up drugs as they walked around the apt. Yikes...
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:03 AM
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I like Jeremy Irons. He was almost as weird as the twin brothers as he was as Claus Von Bulow in Reversal of Fortune.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:05 AM
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:45 PM
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2. Did Croneberg do Crash? |
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Who did Boxing Helena? Those two movies were seriously fucked up.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:47 PM
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And David Lynch's daughter did Helena.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:52 PM
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8. Figures about the daughter |
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yes, Crash and Helena were scary but neither were that good in my opinion.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:48 PM
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Quentin Tarantino.
Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. That guy has a warped (but excellent) way of thinking. Two of my favorite movies.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:52 PM
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Seriously? There's nothing I can see in either movie that's warped.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:33 PM
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36. I guess I was getting at all the blood in the movies |
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Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 11:35 PM by lovedems
and Pulp Fiction has some pretty effed up scenes. The gimp? Anytime there is rape in a movie you have to have a sense of warped.
Edit: Resevoir Dogs, the cop getting his ears cut off to "stuck in the middle with you", again, a notion of warped.
I still love QT, his movies are ones you can watch over and over again.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:02 AM
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43. That wasn't warped, it was brilliant! |
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Here I am, stuck in the middle with you! With Mr. Black doing his little razor blade happy dance :evilgrin:
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:13 AM
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with warped! :)
I am a lady! Sometimes those things have a tendency to get to me!
QT still rocks. :)
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:52 PM
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11. Favorites of mine as well |
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I don't really think Quentin's movies are all that fucked up. He is for sure, in my opinion.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:01 PM
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Wowza! I don't know whether that was really good or really really bad. The amount of blood was for a guy getting his head chopped off was more realistic than any other movie, and thats what makes it so effed up. Man o man, I'm gonna go watch some kittens play with string, thats nice and tame.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:05 PM
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Can't wait for the next part. I think it comes out in April. Wasn't the cliffhanger a shocker? It was bloody but great. To me, his movies are more comical than fucked up. How can anyone take his movies seriously?
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:18 PM
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27. Okay, now I'm thinking it was great.... |
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but man, I empathize with movies to much, gotta remember they're movies. Loved the cliff hanger, but I kinda wanted to see what she did to Sophie. Comical yes, but still pretty fucked up in my opinion. Its not dark humor, or slapstick really, but more like cartoon-ish but with real people and lots of blood. I want to see part 2 really bad now.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:20 PM
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28. Cartoon comes to mind |
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when I'm watching a Quentin movie. Was Daryl Hannah Sophie? Please refresh my memory, I saw it the day it came out.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:28 PM
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Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 11:31 PM by Lizz612
Julie Dreyfuss was Sophie. sorry.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:29 PM
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Julia Louis Dreyfuss comes to mind when you watch a Quentin movie?
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:50 PM
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5. How the hell could you leave off |
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:50 PM
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Waters' movies make sense to me?
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:52 PM
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In that he is such an idiot. I'll never forgive him for Dune.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:53 PM
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Did you see the Children of Dune miniseries? That was great!
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:52 PM
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I'm a huge Lynch fan, but I don't see him as fucked-up at all. At least no more than me. His movies seem more hyperreal than simply WRONG.
I dig Waters, but can't watch him as often as some of the others.
Anyway, if you're talking modern, you can't ignore Aronofsky. And don't forget the foreigners. Some of them do some messed-up shit.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:54 PM
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His visuals are fucked up, but I can never connect with his stories :(
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:57 PM
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he's f-ed up, but he kicks ass! Nightmare Before Christmas was a fucked up movie, that's for sure.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:59 PM
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But if I were a kid and saw it I would be scared.
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Sat Feb-21-04 10:58 PM
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16. Gotta be David Lynch! |
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Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 10:59 PM by NightTrain
Ever seen "Eraserhead?" "Wild At Heart?" "Twin Peaks?" "Mulholland Drive?" Seriously strange shit, baby!
And I must give Honorable Mention to Alejandro Jodorowsky for "El Topo" and "Santa Sangre." You wanna talk fucked-up...?!
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:27 PM
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:04 PM
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19. You could have stopped your poll after listing Ken Russell |
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Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 11:05 PM by mitchum
easily the most fucked up director. The guy could turn an industrial safety film into a garish, overblown mess. I am astounded that people have continued to give him money for decades. Middlebrow meets excess.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:34 PM
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37. God man, The Lair of the White Worm. |
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:47 PM
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First place I saw Hugh Grant. He had a lovely knee, IIRC.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:44 AM
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but "Lair of the White Worm " was enough
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:45 AM
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53. I think The Devils takes the biscuit, though. |
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:04 PM
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That misogynistic moran cannot make a film without violence against women. IMHO, Stanley Kubric (A Clockwork Orange) runs a close second, with Martin Scorsese placing third.
I think there is enough violence in the world without glorifying it for "entertainment." I am not entertained by violence; I am sickened by it and I do not patronize movies with violent themes. I also boycott directors whose gratuitous violence has helped to create a society that is complacent about the impact of entertainment violence.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:07 PM
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I just checked imdb to see what he's up to.
I guess you won't be too interested in his treatment of the Black Dahlia (old Hollywood murder, pretty gruesome).
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:11 PM
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25. I have to disagree with you about Scorsese and gratuitous violence |
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the quality of his work has certainly slipped over the years, but his violence carries a moral weight. It is not there merely to satisfy some kind of lurid thrill. I will also defend much of Peckinpah's work on the same grounds. The violence is unpleasant, but not gratuitous.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:25 PM
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31. Then We'll Have To Agree To Disagree |
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I stand by my opinion; the prevalence of violence in our society, and our complacency about it, is a sickness that is, IMHO, exploited by the likes of Scorcese. I do not, and will not, patronize his films.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:44 PM
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38. We do agree about the prevalence of violence and society's |
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complacency. I'm actually more offended by the exploding-car-crash chop-chop-chop-and-here-comes-a-wisecrack type of violence found in most mainstream Hollywood product. Typified by the Lethal Weapon franchise (I think there must be a law that one of those must be playing at all times on cable) In my opinion, that type of cartoonishness is very desensitizing. However, I do respect your right to reject any and all violent entertainment.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:08 PM
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23. I voted for Cronenberg |
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Crash was the most f***ed up movie I have ever seen. And Dead Ringers was pretty strange too.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:54 PM
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41. Crash was definitely pretty messed up |
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There might be others as messed up as Cronenberg, but nobody is more messed up than Cronenberg.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:09 PM
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24. Stanley Kubrik all the way |
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:21 PM
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29. Lucio Fulci, hands down. |
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Anyone who makes movies where plot is quite incidental to grotesquerie, horror, and terror, and whose overwhelming film aesthetic seems to be surrealistic fear deserves the title of "Most F*d Up Movie Director" to me.
Americans and Canadians (like Cronenberg) have nothing on the Europeans when it comes to messed up cinema, as my next candidate would probably be the brilliant but definitely unstable Leif Junker.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:23 PM
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of his, but looking at the list, the titles alone indicate high fucked-up probability.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:31 PM
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Come to think of it, I haven't heard of him since The Frighteners. Anyone know what the ultra-low budget Kiwi splatter auteur's up to these days? I hope he's still in the business.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:48 PM
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Trying to get some computer program off the ground.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:06 AM
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47. Oh, now I remember, he's doing some Dungeons and Dragons movie |
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with that weird kid from The Faculty and the fat kid from The Goonies. I'd heard he was going to cast the freaky amish guy from Witness.
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Sat Feb-21-04 11:55 PM
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42. Roman Polanski should probably be on there |
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although he has made some amazing films, he strikes me a quite troubled... The Tenant was one of the creepiest films I have ever seen and I still think so after all these years.
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover by Peter Greenaway was pretty disturbing too. For some reason John Waters seems tame, oddly enough, next to some of these other folks.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:46 AM
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54. You're right about both Polanski and Greenaway |
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Kids and Bully were seriously fucked up movies.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:48 AM
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55. Clark seems to display a very disturbing interest in the affairs... |
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of adolescents for such an old guy. Hmmm...
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:08 AM
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gets my vote for the truly nightmarish (although often brilliant) "Natural Born Killers". I thought I was going to have to leave that movie. I was getting so queasy and unsettled.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:15 AM
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If I have to sit through Happiness again, I swear I'll be heading for the razorblades.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:42 AM
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51. I could sit through "Happiness" several times a week |
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I honestly think it is the best film of the past several years.
I was disappointed by "Storytelling" though. I thought the "non-fiction" section was very well done, but found the "fiction" section to be lacking Solondz's odd ambiguity (it was little more than a conflation of "fucking the teacher" and the Mandingo myth)
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:48 AM
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56. Then you're a hell of a lot tougher than I. |
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Man, I was practically in tears from that one.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:52 AM
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57. Watch it as a comedy... |
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because it is one. A very bleak, moving comedy.
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Sun Feb-22-04 12:55 AM
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58. Is someone going to say Mel Gibson? |
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Okay, I deserve to be beat for that one...
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