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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:56 PM
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Poll question: What is your favorite classic Film Noir?
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 10:58 PM by Jack Rabbit
Film Noir is a cinematic genre associated with the 1940s and 50s. As a rule, the film was shot in black and white, with the emphasis on photographic blacks. The setting was usually urban and the characters from the seamy side of life. Often, the plot involves underworld activity.

I have listed some of my favorites below.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:05 PM
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1. Sam Fuller's "Pickup On South Street"
Just came out on DVD and is on it's way to me. It's great.
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:07 PM
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2. Does...
Edited on Sat Feb-21-04 11:09 PM by Ysabel
The 39 Steps qualify...?

P.S. or any others by Hitchcock...?

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:17 PM
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4. That would an interesting discussion
I would say No, but there are no hard and fast rules with this kind of thing. While running down a few lists to jog my memory, I noticed that someone named Hitchcock's Notorious as a Film Noir, although I've never thought of it as one. Key Largo might be another that some would include. Other people might wonder why I included The Hustler, but it seems to meet all the criteria.
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Ysabel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:30 PM
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8. hmmm...
okay - thanks...

i think i liked Notorius better than 39 Steps...

anyway - from the list that you put up - lots of good ones - i loved The Maltese Falcon...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:15 PM
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3. "Out of the Past" (no surprise there, huh?)
"Double Indemnity"
"The Big Heat"
"Detour"
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:36 PM
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9. OUT OF THE PAST!!! DEF!!! MY FAVE!
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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:11 AM
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17. My favorite, too
(although I really should say "Double Indemnity!). But I love "Out of the Past". Did you ever see the remake with Jeff Bridges? Not a bad movie, just not anything like the original.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:21 PM
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5. I'm a Touch of Evil voter - brilliant film
And the essence of Noir. Though it's very tough to say which is "best" - what you offer is a good bit of wonderful noir, though I'd take Maltese Falcon off the list. Excellent film, but not, to me, seriously noir. But maybe... I don't know.

To Have and Have Not, also good.

Hitchcocks' Stranger On a Train, the British Version, is a good candidate.

The Trial.

I miss film noir. We need more of it.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:05 AM
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18. Excellent film
The casting of Heston as a Mexican gets a lot of flack, but it was an oddly good part for him. I don't think it matters that Heston isn't at all Mexican; the character, Miguel Vargas, is cosmopolitan enough that a real Mexican isn't required. Vargas has a strong streak of righteous indignation that Heston projects well.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:15 AM
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19. Absolutely - I think Heston is perfect in that role
and Welles, as always, is just such a fucking incredibly brilliant perfect actor...

and that opening - my God, what an artist Welles was.

It's really too bad he was so railroaded his whole life (and also too bad he was psychologically unstable; but then, if he wasn't the personality he was, he wouldn't have been the genius he was).

It's such a sad commentary that he ended up doing those Paul Masson ads, but he was so dedicated to his art, that he'd do anything for the money to make films, since he was utterly ignored by the movie industry, even though he was 800 times the film-making genius of anyone else. But then, I'm sure that's why he was shunned - he was a true artist.

Multiple swear words, but America has not seen or had an artist like Welles except perhpas in Mark Twain and Hemingway and maybe a couple others.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:23 PM
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6. Rififi
As it's entitled now on DVD. The formal title is "Chez des Hommes Rififi". A French underworld heist flick. A classic. Though view it in the original French. There's a trailer with dubbed English that makes it look bad.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:21 AM
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20. That Is An Excellent Film, Sir!
Saw it several months ago, and enjoyed it immensely.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:30 PM
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7. Double Indemnity is one of my all-time favorites
I considered using this for an avatar I like it so much, but I thought the undertones to it might be a bit negative:

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:38 PM
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10. Postman Always Rings Twice
Out Of The Past first, but Postman is def up there -- the Lana Turner version, of course!
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:46 PM
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12. Of course
You can't beat Lana. I've loved these bad ass, disgruntled wife movies since I was 12 or 13. Irony is a bitch. (I'm not much of a bad ass though.)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:43 PM
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11. Have to go with the 39 Steps
My husband was a film student at one point and he always intimated that it was about as noir as you could get. Although I really like the Big Sleep.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:47 PM
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13. Kiss Me Deadly
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:52 PM
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14. Sunset Blvd., Notorious, and Strangers on a Train.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 11:59 PM
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15. WillPitt looks kinda "noir" in that avatar of yours...
I voted for strangers on a train, too. British version. :-)
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MarianJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:07 AM
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16. I Voted "The Hustler"...
...but would "Rear Window" also count?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:48 AM
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21. Rear Window
is in color.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:01 AM
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23. it's in color, but it's still seriously "noir"
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 01:52 AM
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22. Mildred Pierce
or just about anything with either Joan Crawford or Robert Mitchum.
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 05:14 AM
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29. 'Nother Mildred Pierce fan here. n/t
n/t
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:04 AM
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24. Then there's modern noir:
LA Confidential
Mulholland Falls
Devil in a Blue Dress

Among others.

But THE classic film noir is THE MALTESE FALCON.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:27 AM
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26. and my favorite of that genre . . .
Polanski's Chinatown.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:28 AM
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27. Oh, definitely! *slaps forehead*
A great modern noir classic.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:39 AM
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28. What about "The Thing"?
The John Carpenter perfect remake?

That has to count as Noir, abso-f-ing-lutely, right?

Gods, what a film that is.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 02:04 AM
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25. Double Indemnity
I am a big Chandler fan. I have the screenplay to that film in a collection of his work. His essays on Holloywood are recommended reading.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 09:25 AM
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30. "The Third Man," "Out of the Past," "White Heat," "The Killers," "Laura,"
"The Asphalt Jungle," "Mildred Pierce," "Double Indemnity"...

What a great genre -- the list isn't endless, but it could go on for awhile.
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