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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:22 PM
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My head is exploding -- RANT!!!
In mid-June, our hot water heater decided to bite the big one due to a 'manufacturer's defect' -- the drattable thing was still under warranty (Year 4 of 6), so it only cost us $250 for labor to replace, and an argument with Home Depot because they said GE lied, and it was a 'pro-rated' warranty, so we'd have to pay $200 for a new hot water heater, which was a lie. That problem was solved by getting the GE warranty people on a conference call with Home Depot. Home Depot was called out, and the service desk person said they'd been doing it that way for 5 years, so you know Home Depot was scamming people, because no way were they submitting the tank back to GE for 'pro-rated' reimbursement.

But I digress.

So, I carpet shampooed the water up, thinking the problem was solved. We started to notice a small smell, but it was probably the cat box needing changing, right? We went out of town for a few days, and came home a week ago Sunday, and just about fell to the floor thanks to the stench.

Turns out my 'carpet shampooer' hadn't soaked up as much of the water as I thought it had, but my padding and walls had gotten a lot of it. I called my insurance people thinking I was going to need new carpeting, and they gently insisted we get a 'water reclamation' team out to investigate.

They ended up knocking most of two walls down, ripping out a good portion of the carpet, the linoleum in the laundry room, and a chunk of the kitchen. The laundry room base cupboards were toast, and the shelf the laundry tub sat on for drainage purposes was dismantled. Six commercial fans and two commercial dehumidifiers took three days to suck up all the moisture, and we were officially 'uninhabitable' / stayed in a hotel during this time period.

(Please keep in mind I have 16-1/2 month old toddling twins.)

We didn't want to take advantage of the insurance company (who were being really nice), and came back home late Friday (the 4th) after the equipment was removed. We put up fencing and boards around the open exposed wiring, and waited for the insurance adjuster, because if we did anything to start fixing things, we wouldn't get reimbursed, and since we have a $2K deductible (first household disaster, except for trees falling on our cars during an ice storm about 8 years ago) we were doing everything we were told.

Well, Michigan has been having storms, etc. that are pretty fierce, and in the grand scheme of things, (we don't have any trees in our living room), our little disaster is something we can cope with. The lack of a functioning laundry room is driving me crazy, but my most anxious thoughts are about how my incredibly clever babies are already figuring out ways around our Child Proofing Measures.

So, today the insurance adjuster finally gets here. He does his thing, and as my husband and I had discussed, we took the 'payout' because we felt we could get the work done faster than if we waited for their people. I asked about giving any money back that we didn't use, but he said that wouldn't be necessary -- if we saved a little here and there, good for us.

He was really nice, and I can't say enough Good Things about State Farm.

Then the bad thing happened. Because of the amount of our claim, he had to put our mortgage company on the check, too. This confused me, and we discussed it, and what he said (sort of) made sense, but not really. We weren't even really sure who our 'latest' mortgage company is, because we've been sold a couple of times. Apparently, we are now with Bank of America, who were LaSalle last year, who were ABN Amro prior to that, and I can't remember who they were before that, but I know they were someone else when we refinanced six years ago.

So, I track down the local Bank of America (previously LaSalle), and they refer me to an 866-222-8118 number, which is the Insurance division of Bank of America.

They want a copy of the Insurance Adjuster's Report (we'll be getting it in the next couple of days), then they'll send us a package to fill out, including a signed, notarized statement that we will actually FIX the house, then we send that back with the check, wait 2-3 business days, and they'll sign/return the check so we can deposit it.

My head finally exploded. That is a week-to-two weeks worth of waiting JUST TO GET THE DAMNED CHECK SIGNED; then we have the '5 day business hold' while the check clears!!! ARGH!!!

I demanded to speak to a manager, and was told I didn't need to, and I told the lady I didn't care what she said, I wanted a manager. We went round about that for a while, then she agreed to have a manager contact me. Then I called the insurance adjuster, my claim's representative, and my insurance agent (none of whom have gotten back with me yet).

I am livid pissed. Did I mention I'm missing two walls in my living room, a good chunk of carpeting, my washer/dryer can't be hooked up, and my kitchen is missing flooring?

We're a week-and-a-half into 'fixing' the problems that started mid-June, and I can't even explain how absolutely furious I am with my latest-and-greatest-mortgage holder de-jour.

:rant:
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:28 PM
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1. standard operating procedure to put the lender on the check.
Every single person who had a Katrina claim, or California fire claim or tornado claim or any other type of claim of that size and has a mortgage has to do this, it is part of the contract. Even if you don't escrow your taxes and insurance in your payment, it is part of the legal way the lender's interest in the property is protected. They have to sign off on it.

Now should they be getting it done faster? of course, You would think after all the shit of the past 3 years with fires, floods and hurricanes they would have irone out their system by now.

It really wouldn't matter who is holding your loan right now, they apparantly have a backlog, most likely due to all the fires and the MidWest flooding.

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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:34 PM
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2. We do escrow our taxes and insurance; its the stupidest thing
I've ever heard of in my life! I didn't know about it before, and knowing about it now doesn't make it any better. So, if this is such a stupid ass policy that seems designed to make life hell for home-owners during troubles, why on earth aren't the folks who came before me screaming bloody murder to get this mess fixed???
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:04 PM
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7. oh they did, trust me they did. Especially the hurricane folks ..major lenders
had to set up remote locations to process those checks in the hurricane areas and the fire areas rather than add the additional delay that sending it in to one central location would entail. I don't know how many actually did this but I know of one for certain that did. I was employed there at the time. Volunteers from all over the country went to those areas to work the claims .

This requirement has to do with the lender who has equally vested interest in the restoration/reconstruction of the property doing their due diligence to guarantee the home is actually rebuilt/repaired, since the structure is what is securing the loan.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:38 PM
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6. True, but I was able to talk them out of it.
After our Ivan claim was approved the insurance company told us the check would be made out to us and our mortgage company.

I got an insurance rep and a mortgage rep on a 3-way conference call and explained that we had a $125,000 mortgage on a house now worth conservatively $600,000. We've lived here 15 years.
I sure wasn't going to take a $60,000 check and walk away from a near 80% equity.

They agreed that I wasn't a 'flight risk' and made the check to me.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:46 PM
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3. i'll send some good vibes your way n/t
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 02:47 PM
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4. Thanks -- I need them!
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 04:27 PM
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5. SOP now and a big pain in the
Edited on Thu Jul-10-08 04:29 PM by CC
a**. I would pressure them to hurry up unless they want to be responsible should anything happen to anyone in the house specially the babies.

After hurricane Andrew Florida started doing this. The reason why is a lot of people took their insurance checks for damage and left everything including their mortgage behind to start all over elsewhere. No doubt others have done it in other states after other disasters.

I feel for you specially with two mobile kids that are full of curiosity. From the things could be worse file to hopefully make you feel a tad better,what my brother went through...(Dad, mom and 3 kids in the house) He lost his roof to a tornado during a hurricane Charley in 2004 and got some water damage. Then they were hit with 3 more hurricanes before anything could be done to the roof beyond blue tarp that didn't make it each time. So anything that escaped damage the first time was eventually ruined. Whole house had to be gutted inside. The waiting list for roofers was around a year. He is in construction and because of contacts finally had a roof about 6 months later. Every step of the way he had to get the mortgage company to sign off on any insurance checks. You know they wouldn't pay out all funds at once of course. No they decided it would be doled out as things were done in thirds. One third upfront, one third half way and one third on completion. The very last room was finally finished last November. BTW the insurance adjuster was there the next day, no complaints on insurance from him. Why so fast? He called them to set an appointment as his roof was coming off.:rofl:






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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 05:04 PM
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8. it could also simply be mortgage law in your state. nt
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