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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:55 AM
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Why do deer killed by a car on the highway sometimes lie with their legs
straight and stiff, sticking up in the air? Looks like to me they'd lie as limp as a rag doll.

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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:58 AM
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1. Involuntary muscle contractions would be my guess... n/t
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:38 AM
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2. Rigor Mortis sets in.
I don't know how long it lasts or how long after death it occurs.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:46 AM
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3. depends on air temp
after a while expanding gasses will hold them erect for a time as well in warm temps it all sags back down in a day or two.
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:20 AM
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6. We had one on the side of the road
for a long time last summer

It actually exploded, there is still a stain on the road

:puke:


lost
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:37 PM
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8. eww - yeah, you don't want me to get started
we have about 5 miles of county highway and 10 of railroad through the ranch. I have way too much expertise in large mammalian decomposition.:rofl: :puke:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:19 PM
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10. Dude... speaking of dead animals
A couple weeks ago I was out on a ranch and our truck got stuck going through a muddy slough.

I tried to use a nearby dried cow hide, some ribs, and the scaps to get the truck out, but sadly it didn't work.

I have to get points for trying though. :P
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:35 PM
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12. MAJOR points! even I have never done such a thing!
too bad it didn't work. Hide too slippery in the mud? Lots of pieces of carpet in the bottoms of washes around these parts. I usually use brush and rocks. Mud is rarely a problem but sometimes teh sand is teh soft!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:47 PM
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16. The mud was too slick
and we couldn't actually get anything under the tires. Too little traction.

Why do cows just die out on the range? What are some of the sources of mortality? :shrug:

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:04 PM
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19. when range cattle get sick, they generally die. (suspect tru of other large herbivores too)
they are so hardy that by the time they show symptoms of something they are usually gone.

The main causes are age and calving problems (usually young first timers or really old weak ones).

Other things (beside being hit by cars and trains, or intentionally being made into hamburger) are plastic garbage, lightening, getting stuck in the mud (!), shot by idiots, various types of poisonings (plant or chemical), occasionally snakebite although they usually handle that alright, starvation, cancers. For wild cattle (and deer etc) their teeth wear out and they can't eat very good anymore, get week and are much more subject to predation. Grown cattle are pretty safe from most predators. Lions will take a full grown, maybe a wolf pack, but usually when they take cows it will be right when they are down calving - very vulnerable time - I guess even black vultures will kill them then. I am most grateful we don't have to deal with that or screw worms anymore. Ugh - I have a bit of a larvae phobia and the thought of cleaning screwworm infested wounds sends me up the wall.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:23 PM
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20. Thanks!
'Cause I worked on a site a few years ago that had a LOT of dead cows. Gave me the heebie-jeebies. :(
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:29 PM
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23. interesting - I wonder what it was.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:23 PM
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11. Sheesh! Thanks for the image, Gorn!!
:puke:
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lost-in-nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:39 PM
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14. hi you
:hug:


sorry about the image though!!!!


:rofl:


lost
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:25 PM
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22. Why didn't the county or someone pick it up??
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:59 AM
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4. they got their legs in the air like they just don't care.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:24 PM
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21. lmao...

They started hip hop.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:16 AM
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5. Bloat + rigor mortis can do that.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:17 PM
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9. That's my guess too
Gasses in the body don't have anywhere to go, so the skin swells up like a balloon.

You don't ever want to mess with an animal with its legs in the air. Trust me.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:36 PM
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13. ah get in there and poke it with a stick, it's the BEST time to do it!
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:36 AM
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7. Because they can
why not?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:40 PM
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15. Loose morals. You try to teach them... nt
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 01:57 PM
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17. because it's funnier that way
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:00 PM
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18. I used to have a cat who slept like that sometimes.
It was hilarious! :rofl:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 02:34 PM
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24. Because doe rises?
:rofl:
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