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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:27 AM
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i'm in my 20's, got any good advice?
what's the best piece of advice you could give me? or what is the best advice that you've ever been given?

also, if one needs more circumstantial info to answer, one just need ask.

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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:33 AM
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1. Stay unattached, have fun and travel !!!!!!!
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 01:35 AM by Breeze54
Don't settle down until you are at least 30 and don't have any
kids, (if ever), until you feel sleepy at 10 PM every night!!

Have a blast! Be safe! Enjoy your youth... it is gone in the blink of an eye.

Be happy and remember... You only live once. ;)

You have one shot at this life. Use it to the fullest!

:hug:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:40 AM
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4. that sounds like advice i can use
i think the part about, kids, and 10pm? is right on.

you know, i really hope i do live life to the fullest. i tend to be a bit worried however, that i won't live up to my potential. who knows?

thank you!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:48 AM
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10. 'Life is a Long Song'
'Life is a Long Song'

'Jethro Tull'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rioYOoFqyAo

When you're falling awake and you take stock of the new day,
And you hear your voice croak as you choke on what you need to say,
Well, don't you fret, don't you fear,
I will give you good cheer.

Life's a long song.
Life's a long song.
Life's a long song.

If you wait then your plate I will fill.

As the verses unfold and your soul suffers the long day,
And the twelve o'clock gloom spins the room,
You struggle on your way.
Well, don't you sigh, don't you cry,
Lick the dust from your eye.

Life's a long song.
Life's a long song.
Life's a long song.

We will meet in the sweet light of dawn.

As the baker street train spills your pain all over your new dress,
And the symphony sounds underground put you under duress,
Well don't you squeal as the heel grinds you under the wheel.

Life's a long song.
Life's a long song.
Life's a long song.

But the tune ends too soon for us all.


--------------

Go, have fun and dance!!! :D



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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:53 AM
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14. that was both beautiful and comforting!
thank you! i promise to check out the youtube link on the morrow! :)
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:56 AM
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57. Ahh, that's good
Stay unattached, have fun and travel !!!!!!!

So very true. I have found few things in life more depressing than seeing someone who's married before they are of legal age to rent a damn car (which I believe you have to be at least 25 to do). I've always felt there should be a law that forbids anyone from marrying before you've either lived by yourself for at least 12 months (paying all of your own bills) or have traveled outside of the country of your birth at least once.

I would also add that old staple - "Work Hard. Play Hard." Both build great character.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:34 AM
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2. Never take a $10,000 bet with a guy that says...
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 01:34 AM by philboy
he can pull a 20 gallon martini out of his right ear.

Because he'll do it.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:38 AM
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3. who is this guy?
and what a large right ear he must have.
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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:40 AM
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5. Point being....
never take a bet with anyone who claims they can do something that seems impossible. He/she would not be betting if they could not do it.

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:41 AM
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6. thank you very much!
i appreciate the advice!

:)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:42 AM
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7. My dear kat_kringle!
Here's a Sanskrit saying that I try to live by:

Look to this day,

For it is life,

The very life of life,

In its brief course lie all

The realities and verities of existence,

The bliss of growth

The splendor of action

The glory of power~~

For yesterday is but a dream,

And tomorrow is only a vision,

But today, well lived,

Makes every yesterday a dream of happiness

And every tomorrow a vision of hope.

Look well, therefore, to this day.


:hug:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:48 AM
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9. my!
i think that was one of the best affirmations i have ever heard! thank you so much for sharing!!

:hi:

how are you by the way?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:56 AM
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18. I'm glad you like that!
I am doing better, thank you for asking!

I am looking back over my memories, and this is helping so much...

Plus, I am talking frequently with Khash's mom, and she and I are both benefitting...

:hug:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:01 AM
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24. i'm glad you're doing well!
i am not sure who Khash is?

i did see a thread a few days ago (maybe yours? ) with that name in the title, but i didn't have a chance to check it out.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:22 AM
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39. Yes, that was my thread...
He was one of my dearest friends here...

And he has died without warning, very abruptly.

It has been very painful, to say the least.

But I am improving...

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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:01 PM
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73. this is horrible
i am so sorry that you lost a friend.

my respects.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 03:23 PM
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187. Wow Peggy, excellent!
You said, it said, it all. I have a granddaughter that seems to be taking this route and it is so fun to watch her. She wants enough dollars to live fairly well, But, happy with her choices in the past and choices for her future. We tell her that if you enjoy your job that is more than half the battle in life. I will show her your post, she will have it on her Facebook immediately.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:42 AM
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8. To thy own self be true.
Be yourself, suffer the damage and learn from it. I'm 53 and take it from me, it is good advice. It's old advice but Shakespeare was correct 500 years ago. Best wishes to you.

And always stand and fight for the folks that are not doing as well as you.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:51 AM
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11. you are so dead on
i know that i've been in situations where i've said a lot of things that i didn't mean, but i had to live with it. and i also had to make ammends to peoples that didn't deserve things i've said or done. but it was who i was at the time. and i can be brash, and it's part of my personality, though i do try to level things out by being patient, listening well and thinking about what i really want to say or do.

i suppose that's part of the learning part. and humility: being able to go back and apologize and say "they're aren't any excuses for what i've done"

i also like the last line.

thank you! :)
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:09 AM
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31. You will do fine in this world.
I was a mess when I was your age. But you ask the right questions. And on this website you will get honest answers and people that are pulling your train for you. Welcome aboard.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:13 AM
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35. awesome!
thank you. it seems, that most people i talk to, agree that the 20's can be excruciatingly painful. which is a comforting fact, as it's easy for me to slip into feeling like i'm isolated in this world.


thanks for the welcome! do i ever get to pull the whistle? or do the newbies get stuck shoveling coal into the fire? :P
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:28 AM
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DU lets you do
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:29 AM by amerikat
whatever you want to do. there are people from all ages here. Do you visit the forums.......gardening?..........envoronment and energy......cooking and baking.........the forums are a place to add your personal touch to DU. In fact you could request a forum for twenty somethings and create a forum just for your interests and the mods would abide and create that forum. just saying
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:02 PM
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74. well,
i've only been here for about a week, and i've seen the forums, so i will take your advice and join one (or a few)! thanks for the advice.

are the forums you listed ones that you like? if not, what would you suggest?
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:33 AM
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46. 20's folks are treated as heros here...and nobody shovels coal
to much carbon footprint.
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Angel Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:52 AM
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12. Always be honest to others and yourself
Never take any day for granted, they are a gift not a promise.

Make the time for those you care about and let them know you care. A short phone call can mean the world to someone who is lonely.

Don't be in such a hurry, whatever you are rushing towards will be there when you get there. If it isn't, it wasn't worth rushing for.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:55 AM
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16. the last part really hit home for me
i was just thinking about how i'm always rush rush rush.


i really need to put "i have all the time in the world" in my sig line. i don't ever really know what i'm rushing towards, sometimes just dreams and hopes that would be almost impossible to come true.

but that doesn't kill my hope tho. :)

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Angel Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:07 AM
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29. Hopes and dreams
often do come true. They just take something you can't rush.





Time.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:11 AM
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33. thank you
i appreciate your wise words.

time does amazing things when one lets it. it can be hard as nails, to be patient though. i'll get there one of these days.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:53 AM
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13. Take every opportunity to laugh
Every last damned one of 'em.

Hell, make UP opportunities — for if you are good and pure, the shit in your head's funnier'n anything else anyway.



If you aren't good and pure, always use condoms during laughter.







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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:56 AM
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20. ba dum ,*crash!!
:rofl:

very clever!!!

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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:11 AM
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34. Hey Dodger fan
My grandma used to sit next to Rachel Robinson at Ebbets Field.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:15 AM
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37. My uncle sat next to a guy named Elmo
That was after it was torn down, though.



But that was fine with my uncle, since he didn't like baseball.



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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:22 AM
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40. After it was torn down
where was he sitting? My grandma and dad lived on Flatbush Avenue/Newkirk. My dad would leave school and walk to Ebbets to meet my grandma at the game. He would tell me stories about Gladys Goodling and the symphony. My grandma had a friend named Hilda Chester, she would ring a cowbell constantly. Apparently, Durocher got mad and told her to knock it off..
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 03:06 AM
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52. Wow, lookit what I found!




Then there were these guys:





And, speaking of great New York fans, I just learned that Karl Ehrhardt died last February. Remember him? He could make a sign in about a minute to fit the occasion. :(





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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 03:41 AM
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53. Oh Man.......
thats her!!! Too bad the symphony has that bastard O'Malley in the pic with them. But I guess you guys out there, look at him differently. Yeah Sign Man died, he was awesome. I think his son does signs now.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 03:56 AM
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54. I read about him in Maury Allen's book, 'The Amazing Mets'
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 03:58 AM by Oeditpus Rex
Y'know, the one that went to press about 10 minutes after game six in the '69 Series. :D



Much later, I found out that Allen was one of the "Chipmunks" — that New Wave band of sportswriters who so rankled the old-school New York beat writers in the '50s.

I think it was Ralph Terry who once came back to an interview after talking to his wife on the phone. One of the Chipmunks asked him what she was doing, and he said, "Feeding the baby." The writer asked, "Breast or bottle?"



Edit: Yeah, Ralph Terry. Not Bill. :blush:



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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:54 AM
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15. Hi Im new here
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:02 AM by TieDyedDad
Im 37 and been married 14 years. Here's what I can give you:

When you find your true love, hang on to her/him

Be happy, but not content..there are always things to learn, discover and share

Always look for the silver lining.

Under no circumstances ever root for the following teams: The New York Mets, Jets, Knicks and Rangers..they will shorten your lifespan by twenty years!!

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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:57 AM
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21. Welcome to DU TieDyeDad! Nice post.
:hi:
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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:02 AM
Response to Reply #21
25. Thanks
Ive visited your state. What an awesome place..
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:58 AM
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22. hey, i'm new as well
what you say is very sage.

thank you.

and i promise you, i do not appreciate the teams you listed. :)

also, i hope we both like it here. it seems alright so far.

how are you?
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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:03 AM
Response to Reply #22
27. Thanks
and Im doing pretty good. I like it here as well. Im a long time lurker. How about you?
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:06 AM
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28. well,
DU is a place that i have been aware of, cause of latest breaking news...so i've been observing and lurking as well, for a bit.

however, the lounge is fairly new to me.
what made you decide to join up?

nice to meet your acquaitance by the way.
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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:09 AM
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30. Kinda wanted to get my .02 in
I am a New Yorker after all LOL. The lounge seems like the right place to introduce yourself. Although Im not as scared of GD-P now....Nice to meet you too.
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:19 AM
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38. teams that make your hair go grey in one bad inning?
I'm an Oakand A's fan............uuuuuurrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhh.
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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:25 AM
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41. I feel your pain
and trust me, I was rooting for you guys today. I hate the Yankees.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:10 AM
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136. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:55 AM
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17. Watch out where the huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow.
Hey, what did you expect for free? :shrug:

Seriously, Do what you love an love what you do. If you can achieve that, you will always be happy and never have regrets.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:59 AM
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23. i wish my parents had said that to me before i grew up!
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:00 AM by kat_kringle
sigh. :(


""edit: switched 'while' to 'before'
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 01:56 AM
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19. The greatest rewards come from taking action beyond your perceived limits.
Within the laws of physics, of course.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:02 AM
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26. grande
it's a scary lesson to work on (stepping into the unknown), but i believe you that it reaps great things.


hola! :)
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:11 AM
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32. don't take yourself too seriously
i'm still trying to learn that one

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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:15 AM
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36. good one
good luck with your learning! the process can be tough, eh?

it's one lesson that you mention that i haven't even begun.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:26 AM
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42. If you fall in love and get married,
LIVE WITH THEM FIRST FOR AT LEAST A YEAR OR TWO.

I think it takes two to three years before the real person comes out. They are on their good behavior and eventually they get sick, or something emotional happens, and you see the real them. You see if the real them is basically a decent person, or if the real person inside is mean and hurtful.

I think that the days when people were virgins when they married, and had not lived together or had sex, were very bad, oftentimes. This happened even in the 1960s.

That's why the baby boomers have made divorce a common thing. We are gonna get it right even if it takes two, three or four tries.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:33 AM
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45. The worst comes out after marriage...
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:28 AM
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43. Could you be anymore vague?
:shrug:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:35 AM
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47. Vague?
:rofl:

You must be pretty young yourself. :P

All she did was ask for advice.



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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:53 AM
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49. Yup. I'm just a pup and new to this.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #43
75. well
i had to start broad, that's why i added if one needs circumstantial info about me, or what have you, you are more that welcome to ask.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:30 AM
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44.  'No, No, No, It Ain't Me, Babe' ...........
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:58 AM by Breeze54
Joan Baez - 'No, No, No, It Ain't Me, Babe' (Live 1965)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cmNRVL1drA

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Written by Bob Dylan:

Sung by Joan Baez

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

'No, No, No, It Ain’t Me, Babe

Go way from my window,
Leave at your own chosen speed.
I'm not the one you want, babe,
I'm not the one you need.
You say you're lookin' for someone
Never weak but always strong,
To protect you an defend you
Whether you are right or wrong,
Someone to open each and every door,
But it ain't me, babe,
No, no, no, it aint me, babe,
It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.

Go lightly from the ledge, babe,
Go lightly on the ground.
I'm not the one you want, babe,
I will only let you down.
You say you're lookin' for someone
Who will promise never to part,
Someone to close his eyes for you,
Someone to close his heart,
Someone who will die for you an more,
But it ain't me, babe,
No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,
It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.

Go melt back into the night, babe,
Everything inside is made of stone.
Theres nothing in here moving
An anyway I'm not alone.
You say you're looking for someone
Who'll pick you up each time you fall,
To gather flowers constantly
And to come each time you call,
A lover for your life an nothing more,
But it ain't me, babe,

No, no, no, it ain't me, babe,
It ain't me you're lookin' for, babe.


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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:40 AM
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48. Put some miles on that baby. It ain't meant to sit in a garage.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 02:41 AM by jobycom
(on edit: "baby" doesn't mean THAT. It just means your life.)
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:30 PM
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99. lol
thanks! :P
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:56 AM
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50. I'm 29. Understand there's no such thing a perfection
And if you try to achieve it, you WILL fail. That's because you try too hard to worry about the things that don't matter.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:48 AM
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58. pleased to meet your acquaintence
what you say, is quite right, ja?

thank you.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:21 PM
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143. Thank you HEyHEY.
Sounds like the mini-bar was talking.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 02:56 AM
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51. I'm 29. Understand there's no such thing a perfection
And if you try to achieve it, you WILL fail. That's because you try too hard to worry about the things that don't matter.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:20 PM
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142. Thank you HEyHEY.
Sounds like the mini-bar was talking.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:44 AM
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55. Heh
I'm 37:

Don't join any cults.
Cultivate healthy boundaries.
Get plenty of sleep when you can.
Learn how to cook at least 3 meals.

That's my sage free advice.

MPK
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:04 PM
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76. have you joined a cult before?
just wondering.

thanks for the advice! i can say those are all lessons are ones that are incredibly important.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:54 PM
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107. No.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 06:58 PM by MPK
My dad did though.

But it's the advice I always give young college age students. I'm a community college teacher. Beware of overly friendly people, anyway! Good advice even if you aren't pursuing studies. I'm sure you're doing fine!

MPK

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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:51 AM
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56. I've had a recurring fantasy about time travel, and visiting my Dad as a child.
I would prevent him from smoking, if I could, since he died of cancer. I smoke, myself, and can't seem to quit, though I've tried, but that is advice I'd give to anyone...:hug:

Also, my mantra for living is to be as kind as possible to other people, which is how I try to live. I'm not religious, but have adopted a Christian philosophy. I try to treat other people as I would like to be treated. :-)

Rhiannon:hi:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:10 PM
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77. excellent
thank you. :)

also, as a smoker myself, and trying to quit (and have tried many ways), i'm just wondering if you've ever tried this:

average the amount of cigarettes you smoke a day(and go high, like i only smoke a half pack to a full, so i started with 20), and then, after a certain amount of days, ( i stay with each amount for three days) decrease the amount you can smoke by one.

it's really helped me, also, analyze the times when you smoke the most. is it on the phone? after meals? right away in the morning? then, pick the easiest habit or routine you do with cigs and try to break it over a two or how many week period (like over the past month, i have stopped smoking when i talk to people on my phone and i now have started skipping the first cigarette of the morning-i now wait an hour after getting up before i smoke.

and finally, at least what i'm planning, is once i get to four cigarettes a day, to stay there as long as i have to, 'til im 110 percent sure i'm ready to quit.

i hope this helps! habits die hard.

good luck! and thank you!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:03 AM
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145. Thank you, my friend, and I sure know how hard it is.
I was on those "One Step at a Time" filters for several years, did Smoke-Enders at work, and then did a hypnotism seminar. I have a life membership. *sigh*

And I have the same triggers that you have, when I wake up (the only time I cough :-( ), also on the phone and after meals, but mostly when I get anxious. I have a check-up appointment with my doctor tomorrow and am going to bring it up, but I have easier habits that I have to give up...

I totally agree with your analysis. I have done this myself. I think that you'll be able to quit when you're ready, and you sure sound like it to me, but I do know how hard it is. I just think that some people are hard-wired for this addiction, or they're not. Most of the people in my family smoked, so I think I got the gene, whatever that is. :-(

And good luck to you, too, my friend. It sure is hard...


Rhiannon:hug:

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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:06 AM
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147. thank you, love
oh and i forgot! it's so hard to be around other smokers when i'm trying to quit!! ahhh!!

we can do this!! we can be a support system for each other.

:hug:

keep on keeping on!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:25 AM
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160. Wow, you're quick, LOL.
I was just going to edit my post to welcome you to DU. We're so glad to have you with us!:toast:

One thing that Smoke-Enders taught me was that when you really want a cigarette, and have one, you realize that really wasn't what you wanted. I smoke the long kind, so often light one and put it out. I try not to leave them around the house, but smoke the same cigarette several times, since I realize that I was just anxious or not thinking about it, habit, so put the damn thing out. :-)

And of course we can do this, but my Dad never did, nor my uncle or aunt. I lost them all, so I should be motivated, but my mother likes to remind me, which sure doesn't help. I did pretty well at the hypnotism course. They made you smoke there, and I was choking to death, so I really never wanted to smoke again, I felt so awful, but my mother gave me her usual crap about my smoking, never noticing that I wasn't, so I was tempted, and I did. And my mother is a smokeless smoker, like Bush* is a dry drunk, so she has issues... But I haven't seen her since January, so I can't use that as an excuse now...

I also have asthma, so I'm really messed up. And my SO has tried, as well, blames me for his failure to quit, but he was determined to quit before he even met me, and he lights up as soon as he is awake, and certainly when I'm not there.

Maybe we should form a support group. I do know I need to quit, don't want to end up like my relatives, but it is the most difficult thing to give up, IMO.

Rhi:pals:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 01:27 PM
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167. thank you for your response!
:hug:

i also smoke the long kind (american spirt ultra-lights), and try to break it at least into thirds.

also, i have found that buying rolling tobacco, and just using enough to have a few drags can quell some of my nicotine 'yearnings'. :)

we can do this! my grandfather died of emphazima, and i can't let that happen to me.

let's be strong!

we are strong, heartache to heartache, we stand, no promises, no demands... (sorry, that instantly came into my head :) ) and also the lyrics might be a bit off. regardless, i'm sure you get the picture.

thank you for the welcome! you are awesome!!! :hi:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 12:46 PM
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181. You're more than welcome, my friend.
I was welcomed to DU on my very first post, never was on a message board before, so was nervous about it, but was made so welcome here that I stayed. DU is my home. :-)

Just now, I'm smoking Basic Lights. My brand is actually Cambridge, was the last brand I ended up with when I went to Smoke-Enders, but they no longer sell them in NY State, and Basic is closest. *sigh*

And I sure sympathize with your loss. Losing my Dad, at too young an age, is something I think about everyday. But it is an addiction, and I seem to have inherited it.:-(

I am a strong person, but my doctor once said that I have an addictive personality. Great. I know that I may not be able to do this today or tomorrow, but I will do it.

I appreciate the lyrics, and they do resonate with me.;)

Thanks for replying to me, as well, and a most warm welcome to DU...

Rhi:pals:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:57 AM
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59. Stay out of unsecured debt.
That's NO CREDIT CARD DEBT! Use them sparingly and pay them off as quickly as possible when you do.

If you do go into debt for a mortgage or to buy a car, don't borrow as much as you can afford, borrow as though your situation will change for the worse.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:11 PM
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78. now that is a good lesson
a hard one, well at least for me. but you're right on. especially since cc companies love the customers that can't pay.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:20 PM
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87. I was $30k in debt on my 30th birthday.
I had not much to show for it. So, I had to do the bankruptcy thing. I'm now 40, and although I'm about $76k in debt, $75k is my mortgage. :)
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 10:59 AM
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60. Drink heavily.
At least 8 glasses of water a day.:hi:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:12 PM
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79. lol
:rofl:

very nice. :)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:02 AM
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61. Never shoot pool with a guy who's named after a state
Never play poker with four other guys that all know each other.

Teach yourself or get qualified in a manual skill that no one can ever take from you. (Welding, carpentry, etc.)

Never trust a stranger with your personal finances; they will always do what is best for their own self-interest, not yours.

The best advice I ever got was from my Dad, which he got from his Dad. It's a little sexist, but consider the time they grew up in:

"Never lend out your money, your car, or your wife. In that order."
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:13 PM
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81. i think that's not very sexist at all.
and very wise. :) nice to meet you!
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:03 AM
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62. Live it up as long as you can!
Because eventually "real life" catches up, you become middle-aged and boring, gravity takes over, you have to go to work every day and think about stuff like retirement accounts and the weeds in your lawn, and nothing will ever be as good again as it was when you were in your 20s. And you'll only have those memories of when life was fun to sustain you.

(Sorry to be a downer, but I'm completely serious about this - do as much as you can now and worry as little about responsibility as you can get away with. That's my advice as someone who's been there.)
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:15 PM
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83. thank you
it's depressing, but you are right.

i can only hope that i have some freedom when i'm middle aged, ie not bogged down by my job et al. ha. i doubt it will happen, so i will take your advice and live things up to the best of my ability.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:13 AM
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63. I'm in my 20s... if you get any good advice, lemme know, I could use some too.
:P
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:15 PM
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84. ha
check out this thread! there's tons of great stuff!
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:14 AM
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64. "You never know just how you look through other people's eyes"
so why care :)

Love life, don't mind the sun, and drink from the fountain!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTJ6bxGjQu8

:hi:

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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:16 PM
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85. nice!
i promise to check out the youtube link shortly!

:hi:
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:23 AM
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65. Work hard, play hard, wear glasses if you need them.
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 11:25 AM by davsand
Webb Wilder has nailed it perfectly.


Stuff I never realized until I hit my middle age but that I wish I had known sooner:

People (especially a lot of men!) get freaked out by blunt women they don't know, but adore those women AFTER they get to know them.

If you get married realize you are giving control of your sex life over to someone else. If they are not into sex you are screwn (or not, I guess.)

Kids are an amazing gift, but they can't be returned. Be REAL sure you are ready before you have one. Once you do have one celebrate them EVERY day.

If you can make it thru your life without going out of your way to mess anybody over, you are probably in the top 5% of the world population because assholes abound.

If you are lucky enough to have a good friend in your life hang onto them as if they are the greatest treasure in the world--because they really ARE.

Never forget how to laugh at yourself. It keeps you sane in the long run.

Don't smoke, don't get fat, and NEVER give up on cardiovascular exercise. It is the best thing you can do for your personal longevity and well-being other than eating fish at least twice a week.

I think I'll dodder my way back to my rocker now...


Laura


Welcome to DU, BTW!
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:19 PM
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86. i love it!
thank you, oh wise one!

i'm telling you, i'm quitting smoking at the moment, and it's hard, but i know i can make it.


also, the part about blunt women? SO TRUE! as one myself (well, at times; not always the pertinent ones), i have experienced that with men very often.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:26 AM
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66. Get an education.....

Especially if you have someone to help you pay for it.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #66
88. i'm suprised no one else has mentioned that
my hat is doffed to you!

:hi:
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:29 AM
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67. Don't wash cast iron with soap...
just don't.

And the other adage "Do well and let others say."
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:21 PM
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89. quick q-
when it comes to cast iron, i've heard just wiping it clean with a dry cloth and then using some crisco on it is best....is this true?
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:36 PM
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112. as long as it's seasoned, it'll be fine.
They are heavy to cook with but they work well for so many things.

:)
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:50 PM
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114. great!
i'm well on my way with this whole advice thing! thanks!
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:50 AM
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125. I have some really ancient cast iron I need to sell.
A deep skillet and some andirons covered with heavy rust. Real antiques that were no doubt used to cook in fireplaces.

Scrub em or leave the rust the way it is???

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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:46 PM
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185. No, you have to take the rust off or it will get into the food.
Use steel wool to strip them down to the bare metal and reseason them. You should get a better price.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:37 AM
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68. have a lot of safe sex. nt
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:22 PM
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90. hrm
i like it!

nice to meet you! :hi:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:28 PM
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97. nice to meet you too.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:42 AM
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69. get a passport and go
meet the rest of the world
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:43 AM
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70. Now *that's* good advice!!

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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:59 AM
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72. I really think traveling the world (low budget, even working - not isolated cruise type shit)
would be as good if not better than mandatory civil service for creating worthy citizens.

Plus it is FUN!
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:49 AM
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71. yup
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:22 PM
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91. i have only done so, twice
but it's amazing, and i can't wait to get back! :hi:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:05 PM
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115. excellent. Where did you go?
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #115
121. well:
the first time i visted sal lavalette in france, and crockham hill in england.

the last time I went to paris, toulouse, corbeil essones and mouroux in france, amsterdam and arnheim in the netherlands, crockham hill and london in england, and finally barcelona in spain.

what about you?
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:35 PM
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124. Mostly Mexico since it is so close, but I have been
to Japan, Taiwan, Germany, and Turkey (oh and barely into France - Alsace area for a couple of days)

Going to Australia in 2 years. Back to Chihuahua in September.

I would like to see Spain and the desert parts of Africa at some point. I am more of a landscape/rural person so those are the kinds of places I like to see. I also like to learn something about people in the area, maybe stay with families or in small towns/villages off the regular tourist areas. My friend is a potter and often we visit areas know for that skill or craft and maybe do informal classes with local "experts". I like to check out livestock and horses - a non-feminine subject in a lot of places that sometimes leads to interesting encounters. heh heh
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:06 AM
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128. very cool
you sound like an amazing person, with an even more amazing personality.

livestock and horses, huh? i bet you have some stories to share.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 11:22 AM
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137. I am an evil hippy cattle rancher.
:rofl: I like to confuse people where I live and wherever I go.B-)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:13 PM
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80. I'm hitting 40 - I have a bunch
When choosing a partner a friend is more important than white hot passion
Don't have kids until you learn how tiring it will be
Marijuana is safer than Alcohol, or Crack.
You can live with a bad decision much easier than you can a missed opportunity.
Despite this, realize you are not immortal. You might have trouble conceptualizing death, but that doesn't make it any less real.
Real Maple Syrup is worth the calories.
Mayonnaise is not
As you get older, time goes faster. That's why Senior Citizens drive notoriously slow. Think about percentages. When you are 1 week old, 1 hour seems like an eternity. That is 1/168th of your life.
When you are 100 years old, 1 hour is now 1/873600th of your life. It goes by quickly.
Don't believe anything I say.
:P
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:24 PM
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92. are you kidding!
i do believe what you say! :)

esp the part about maple syrup. and cannabis.

:hi:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:28 PM
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96. There is nothing on earth like hot, sweet, light maple syrup on fresh pancakes/waffles/frenchtoast!
Oh, and remember, you are just an animal, just like everything else. You are unique, no doubt. But so is everything on Earth.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:05 PM
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177. oh man, you're killing me!
I want maple syrup so bad!! I'm going home in two weeks, and I think the first thing that I do will be to get a stack of pancakes or french toast covered in syrup. Yum. I haven't had any in over a year, and never realized before that I would begin to absolutely crave it.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:15 PM
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82. Never run up credit cards and don't get hitched to anyone who has.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:25 PM
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94. thank you
pleased to meet you !!

:hi:
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:24 PM
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93. learn these tricks
how to apologize and mean it, how to accept an apology (and mean it), how to give and accept compliments (ditto). Otherwise I have to whole heartedly agreed with all the other advice given. Oh and one more thing, always try to save part of what you earn. Even if it's just a little. Life is a lot less scary if you've got some money set aside. It also serves the benefit of preventing you from borrowing inadvisedly, moving in with someone for the wrong reasons and generally is a good freaking idear
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:26 PM
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95. totally right on
very impressive advice! i can't believe all the amazing responses i'm getting! the honesty around here is coming in bounds. i like it.

:hi:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:29 PM
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98. Always carry an extra magazine or speed loader.
I'm just sayin'.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:31 PM
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100. it may help someday
should i have a firearm then too? or just in case someone pops by and needs to use it? :P
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 05:53 PM
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101. If you've never
Edited on Sun Jul-20-08 05:53 PM by hippywife
started smoking cigs, DON'T. If you have, QUIT NOW! I'm coming up on 50 and trying to quit before I do. It gets harder the older you get.

Also, do go see the world and meet wonderful people before you have to settle into the drudgery of making a living. Choose something you really love to do when you do.

Have fun! Life really is too short! :hi:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:34 PM
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104. aloha!
thanks for the great advice. i smoke, but am in the process of quitting. and i agree, it's good to quit now! at least i have a good chance of regenerating some lung tissue.

:)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:57 AM
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127. Out of curiosity how long does it take one to get addicted?
I've smoked cigarettes on occasion, usually when I've had a few drinks. The first time I did it consistently at all was for a few days during exams to help me stay awake, then promptly stopped when I realized the nicotine wasn't really helping me stay awake at all. Never really had a craving after I stopped.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:08 AM
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129. thats a tough q
well, for me it took maybe five weeks to really become a steady cig smoker. but it's pretty dependant on the person and the type of cigarette they smoke.
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:10 AM
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133. I have no idea, really.
All I know is that all my life I had the feeling I could put them down anytime I wanted to. Then I seemed to cross this line somewhere in my 40's where even mentally it seemed like an impossible task. It's just best to leave them alone altogether. I really wish I had. Really.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:05 PM
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102. Get in shape. Or, if you're already in good shape, stay in shape.
Take advantage of that good metabolism. :hi:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:35 PM
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105. for sho
what would you recommend for people that have a hard time exercising?

sometimes it's difficult for me to mantain a good regime. i'm thinking of trying out a belly dancing class this winter, i at least know that i have more success with a group workout that on my own.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:23 PM
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117. That sounds good. They say it's good to mix it up a lot ...
Whatever gets your heart pumping, literally and figuratively. Also, it doesn't take a lot of weight to build muscle. Lots of reps with even 5 lb. weights while you're watching TV will do the trick for your arms. I do lots of squats and lunges for the lower bod. Then, if you have a good foundation of muscle, you'll burn more calories even while sedentary. That's what motivates me to work out, 'cuz I likes my food. :P
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:12 PM
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103. Don't get married until you are 30, travel the world, do it all NOW
because when marriage and life sets in, there isn't as much time or money, go do it while you have the chance.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 06:36 PM
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106. kk
i will try my best! i have 6 and a half years to go!

wish me luck!

:hi:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:11 PM
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108. take care of your teeth n/t
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:14 PM
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109. speak of the devil
i hadn't been to the dentist for about six years, and i finally kicked my ass to the dentist last month. I had three fillings, four wisdom teeth removed. i will never dilly dally again. nd in the process i ended up getting dry socket. karma!

:hi:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:23 PM
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110. that's the thing, kat
you pay now or you pay much more later - in money AND in looks - yes INDEED :hi:
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:28 PM
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111. Don't be surprised if you start a thread
and 5 brazillion copy-cats are made in the following few hours. :D

You've received all sorts of advice about life, so I'll just give you some about DU -- don't let anyone harass you because you have a low post count. Most are great people, but a few of the old-timers can be a bit nasty to newbies.

:hi:
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 07:49 PM
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113. it's funny that you should mention that...
:rofl: my fav so far is the 'im in the womb' one. :)

thanks for the tip, i'll be sure to take a stand if anyone gives me any unprovoked guff!

:hi:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:09 PM
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116. Learn to listen to your elders.
No, I mean REALLY listen, even when you think they're anachronistic old farts. Even when their perspective is out of date, their life of experiences may inform your decisions.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:06 PM
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120. i'm so with you
i grew up with very little ppl around that were my age; i learned that elders are people just as we all are, and deserve the best.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:27 PM
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118. Don't chew your nails, especially if you are a carpenter.
Soupy Sales taught me that.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:09 PM
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122. explain?
i am un-carpenter-riffic. :(
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Lethe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 09:29 PM
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119. do whatever you feel like doing
regardless of the consequences or what your parents think.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-20-08 11:11 PM
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123. maybe you should have added:
'w/in reason' :)
only because i know you didn't mean homocide, genocide or pyromania, et al.


but you're right on, i think it's important for people to learn from life by experience. of course, having advice from elders and such is an excellent compliment.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:52 AM
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126. Cultivate good friendships with good people, and keep those for decades.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #126
130. the only problem is
finding good people.

no, that's not true, i can find good people, just not people that can commit into a friendship very well. i guess i have time, and some college left. we'll see!
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:33 AM
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131. Make it to thirty! n/t
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:06 AM
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148. i hope, i hope!
but i'm already dead, so i will live on for eternity.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:27 AM
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132. Enjoy your life...
live as you want, stay healthy.
Making a lot of money is not very important compared to being happy in what you do and who you are.

Good luck.

mark
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:07 AM
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149. parfait!
excellent words, sir. thank you! :hi:
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:13 AM
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134. Pull up your pants!
And get the hell off my lawn!
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:07 AM
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150. keep those damn kids off my lawn!!!!!
i'll try, you might have to hit me with a broom or something first.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:47 AM
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135. Life has a great curve ball
learn to hit one.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:08 AM
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151. i like it
it reminds me of something i'd see on a jr high wall (and that's not a criticism!!! i love those sayings/advice).

:hi:
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 11:23 AM
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138. Start saving money now for your future. But have fun while doing it.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:10 AM
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152. mighty!
very wise, very wise.

:)
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 12:44 PM
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139. no regrets, no apologies
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:11 AM
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153. may i also add:
no excuses.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 01:03 PM
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140. Get an education!
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:11 AM
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154. i'm on my way with that one!
but it's definitely one of my favorite pieces of advice
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 02:13 PM
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141. Read, play instruments, travel, think..
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 02:13 PM by regularguy
You can always expand your mind but it's easier when you're younger.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:13 AM
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155. i hear you
that's why i wish that i started learning french earlier than 8th grade.


i do play music, and am on a trip right now...nothing exotic, just my hometown. i'll get overseas again someday.

:hi:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 05:37 PM
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144. 1. If you have a chance to live or work overseas TAKE IT!
Don't listen to the pinheads who say very solemnly, "But you'll lose a whole year of lifetime income." What you will gain in independence, cultural understanding, and great experiences is worth more than any amount of money.

2. If you have helicopter parents, start moving away. Don't call them every time you have to make a decision. If they call you, be polite, but keep the conversation short. Don't tell them everything about your life as if they were your best friends. They won't be with you forever, so while it's one reason to treasure them, it's also a reason not to become so enmeshed that you can't function without them.

3. Develop an outside interest that has nothing to do with work or mass media, preferably one that you can continue your whole life: get involved in community theater, join a choir or orchestra, take art lessons, take dance lessons, learn a craft or skill with others through a local community college or community education program, get involved in a masters' swim program or a hiking club or a bicycle touring club, trace your ancestors, learn about the ethnic culture of your ancestors, volunteer for a cause that you care about. A lot of twentysomethings graduate from college and are at a loss about how to keep busy after work, now that there's no automatic social life available, so they spend every evening in front of the TV and get very, very depressed, or else try to find their social life exclusively in bars and clubs and get very, very depressed and possibly substance addicted.

4. Don't assume that the career you have now is the one that you'll always have. One of the great things about America (as opposed to many other countries) is that it allows a lot of second chances and opportunities to reinvent yourself.

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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:14 AM
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156. oh, wow
first of all, i really respect and appreciate your incredibly in depth and well written response/advice!!! :hug:

and i really agree on number 2, i wish that i would have met you 6 years ago!!!
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:28 AM
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163. I wholeheartedly agree about living overseas.
The most pivotal two years of my life were the two I lived in Argentina, serving a mission. It gave me an understanding of the world that one cannot gain from books or TV, and it made me appreciate our country so much more.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:04 AM
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146. Try not to fart on the first date...
Believe you me, it's a deal breaker...
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:14 AM
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157. i take it this advice comes from (a) previous experience (s) of yours? n/t
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:17 AM
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158. Actually, one of my friends told me that before my very first real date...
And so I was so conscious of farting that I didn't enjoy myself at all...
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:20 AM
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159. oh, no
i hope that it didn't affect your dating after that.

:hug: <--- this is for the you that didn't enjoy yourself
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:25 AM
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161. Early 20's? Start investing.
Invest about $50 a month, if you can, into something. (I can't get too specific about what to invest in, because I'm in a heavily regulated industry.)

All I know is: if I could do it all over, I would have started at age 19 or 20, putting $50 a month (via auto bank draft) into a low-cost diversified global portfolio, and forgotten all about it.

And, equally important (if not more so), I would stay away from credit cards. Don't even get one. Don't buy ANYTHING on credit. If you don't have the money, don't get it. Save up until you have the money.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:28 AM
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162. Find the opportunities in every circumstance.
I once worked a job in my early twenties where an older gentleman (paid substantially more than me!) would 'dump' his work on me every morning while he read his paper/drank coffee. I found myself resenting him, and then had the 'epiphany' moment where I realized it was a great opportunity to learn everything I could. My attitude changed, and I began asking him for MORE work; bless his heart, he gave it to me, and then also took the time to show me 'short cuts' for getting things done/double checking my accuracy. Since he had over 35 years experience in accounting 'before computers' he showed me tricks I would never have learned otherwise (I was the young computer help), and the experience ended up making a huge impact on my career, while the 'tricks' have been used by me ever since.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 02:33 AM
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164. Yes I do
Just not a good time, PM me and I will tomorrow :) Oh, and a KICK in hopes you get many more useful replies.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:03 AM
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165. Don't ask for advise unless you know the person giving it.
I made some bad decisions based on bad advise when I was young. Other than that, I would say that you should follow both your heart and your head, be true to your own ideals, and always think before you leap but leap when you think it is worth the chance you take. Live your life the way you want to, and always consider others when what you do affects them. That is all the advise I would give anyone unless I knew them and knew what they needed advise for.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:28 AM
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166. Drink up now
It gets a lot less fun as you get older.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:08 PM
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168. it's not always "about you" , in fact it rarely is...
people are wrapped up in their own crazy shit, and if it weren't you it'd be the next person that comes along.

if you knew how little (infrequently) people thought about you, you'd never bother worrying it.

lol, i had to shake a lot of self conciousness off when i was your age, and i'm so glad i did.

good luck + welcome!
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:53 PM
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170. thank you!
this is a lesson i'm currently having an issue with. the whole lime--light disorder...

thanks for the welcome! and for the good luck! :hi:
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:49 PM
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169. No.
Some people only exist to serve as a warning. I'm one of those.
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kat_kringle Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:54 PM
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171. how so? n/t
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 02:19 PM
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186. I discovered too late
the transitive property of assholes: unshakable loyalty to an asshole makes you an asshole.

I discovered too late that I didn't really have any friends, and fell into a deep depression which has been a constant companion for ten years now. "Professional help" only made it worse. I have no job and no prospects. I'm alive only because there's a chance (very slim, but it is there) for revenge. Or at least revenge-themed art - I love disturbing art.

So yeah, I admit it. I'm a loser, a basement-dwelling sick fuck, the embodiment of a stereotype widely bandied about the internet by insecure shitstains desperate for cheap respect. Fucking sue me.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:54 PM
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172. more sex
no kids.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:56 PM
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173. Never date married or separated guys
They were red flags for me, but my daughter is learning a hard lesson these days. She fell for a separated one, and let's just say, he decided divorce #2 was not worth the expense. I said GOOD RIDDANCE to bad trash.

:hi:
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behave Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:37 PM
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174. Live, damnit, LIVE!
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 06:30 PM
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175. if I knew then what I know now....
I'd have gotten a job with the National Parks Service and traveled with pay to the most beautiful spots in the country, lived at each for a couple three years then moved on to the next.

and by now, I would be able to retire


:rofl:
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 07:29 PM
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176. FLOSS!
You'll be glad you did, trust me.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:04 PM
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178. NEVER trust a fart.
From The Bucket List
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:56 PM
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179. don't compromise
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 10:26 PM
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180. Sunscreen and earplugs
Think about how you will be when you are 40
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 12:51 PM
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182. Read Charles Bukowski and David Sedaris
try to be healthy and make money.

"Relax and learn to share the world with others in generous ways." = Jimmy Carter
"Follow your bliss." = Joe Campbell
"To be Irish and Catholic is to know that the world will eventually break your heart." = H. Pat Moynihan
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 12:57 PM
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183. Don't stand under a tree during a thunder storm.
or, Z-z-z-z-z-z-t-t-t-t
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 01:32 PM
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184. Remember that you're in your 20s, not your 40s, so act like it.
Don't grow up too fast, because once you hit 30, you'll never be able be in your 20s again. Take advantage of the fact that you likely have more energy, more sex drive, fewer encumbrances, and better looks than you will ever have for the rest of your life.

Do unusual things. Be political. Get involved in the arts in some way, if you have the aptitude for it. HItchhike across the country. Go backpacking in Europe and Asia if you have the money.

Get drunk or smoke weed when you can, but not so much that it becomes a problem for you, and never when you're driving.

Avoid tattoos, because they'll look really ugly when you start to sag.

Be sure to say please and thank you a lot. In fact, be as nice and polite to people as you can; not only will you feel good about yourself, but it also gets you more of what you want, including sex.

Oh yeah, sex -- get laid often as often as you can because right now, honey, you look great. And unless you have some terminal disease, you have lots of time for it. But don't piss away that time with stuff that people older than you concern themselves with. Get busy collecting experiences today, because they are tomorrow's memories.

One time, in my early 30s, I was at an event that was also attended by some sharp-dressed 22- or 23-year-olds who were in training as investment bankers. All they could talk about was money and possessions and bills and mortgages. I felt so sorry for them, and I said to one of them, "Do you know what I was doing when I was 23? Being 23!" They had absolutely no idea what I was getting at.
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