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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:42 PM
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In 1994, 'Star Trek generations' was deemed mediocre. In 2008,
will it be heralded as a an ingenious classic compared to JJ Abrham's not so-dyn-o-mote offering?
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:46 PM
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1. I never could get into subsequent generations of Star Trek.

Probably I missed out, but Star Trek to me is : Jim, McCoy, Scot, Sulu, Uhura, Chekov and Spock!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:50 PM
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2. The Next Generation is good. After that it went downhill fast.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 04:51 PM by Alexander
Deep Space 9 had some moments, but you really had to follow the story arc to understand what was going on.

Voyager turned an interesting concept into the "Seven of Nine" show.

Enterprise was unwatchable, although I heard the last two seasons were pretty good. Maybe I'll check them out.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:53 PM
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4. Hmmnm. You'd have more fun checking out the bubonic plague...
Crapperprise seasons 3 and 4 stunk. Season 3 had a limp story arc, and it's hard to generate suspense in a prequel when your home planet gets blown up as part of the 'tension'...
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:00 PM
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8. They should do a new series set during World War III.
It would be action-packed, involve lots of storylines, stuff would be blowing up and people would be getting killed all over the place, cities we are familiar with would be obliterated, and if done right, would be really fun to watch, even to people who don't like Star Trek.

If they're going to do a prequel, I think the World War III era is the best idea.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:14 PM
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12. I think it's a great idea, but it wouldn't really be Star Trek.
There'd be no starships, captains, sexy crewmembers, or people in rubber masks. It would just be a WWIII armageddon show. Unless, of course, all sorts of Trek-universe time travelers tried to meddle in the outcome, but that would probably get really tired really fast.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:52 PM
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3. They've kind of lost their way with all the "retconning"...
...and "prequel" stuff IMHO. ENT wasn't too bad once it got going, particularly the parts where it showed the first uses of technologies we took for granted in TOS and TNG. But that really isn't the kind of "nostalgia for the future" I'm referring to in my sig line. ;)

Now it seems we're going to fill in the gaps between Enterprise and TOS, with young Kirk and Spock. That's a real yawn for me. It's like when a funny sitcom forgets why it's funny and makes the mistake of thinking fans care more about the characters than the jokes. Cancellation is rarely far behind. Now we're expected to care about the pre-TOS era again, and no doubt chuckle knowingly at the first appearances of personality traits and relationship hooks we fondly remember from TOS. Great.

What I'd like to see is a complete reimagining of Trek. Maybe move it to the 25th or 26th Centuries (just short of the period when we'd get nothing but time travel and temporal cold war episodes), give us a superbad Enterprise H, I or J, a half-Klingon half-Borg captain, and a mission to seek out every scantily clad morsel of hot stuff in the galaxy. Now that's something I'd pay to watch.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:55 PM
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6. I would love to see a Star Trek set even later in the future.
Or involve characters and situations that don't have much to do with the Federation.

Like, say, a Klingon or Romulan ship.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:04 PM
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9. Enterprise had a great Andorian (blue guy) character who I thought would...
...have been fun to see do a few episodes himself, outside the immediate ST world. The actor had kind of a Richard Widmark thing going.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:09 PM
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11. Jeffrey Combs has played a lot of roles in Trek.
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 05:11 PM by Kutjara
He's most notable either as Commander Shran in Enterprise, or the Vorta Weyoun in DS9. He also auditioned for the role of Will Ryker in TNG, but the role went to Jonathan Frakes. His other recurring role has been as a Ferengi.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 05:05 PM
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10. Focusing on non-Federation stuff is a great idea!
It would be great to get a perspective on the Trek universe that wasn't just propaganda for the Federation. Maybe set it aboard a privateer operating on the fringes of Federation/Klingon/Romulan space, crewed by diverse species all of whom thumb their noses at the authoritarianism of the "Big Three." It would be a great opportunity to satirize the self-righteous Federation, the psycho-crazy Klingons, the Machiavellian Romulans, and the PITA Vulcans.
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:54 PM
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5. screw star trek
worthless losers are the entire viewership.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:56 PM
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7. I think they need to let it go.
No new ST movies needed; it's all been done.

Bake
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