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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:00 PM
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What's the best foreign language to teach a kid?
Say middle school level student. Spanish for social reasons, Chinese for career potential, Arabic because it's easier, or Greek for intellectual benefits? Or something else? I've got books and tapes for all sorts of languages, can't make up our minds.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:03 PM
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1. I'd say spanish
Definetly Spanish


Chinese or Hindu for future job careers

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idlisambar Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:07 PM
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7. common mistake
Hindu -- the religion
Hindi -- the language
:)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:03 PM
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2. The only reason I'd go for Spanish is that
there are so many similar languages that it then makes it easier to become multi lingual as opposed to bilingual.
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:21 PM
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16. In that case, Latin
and Ancient Greek. I agree: multi-lingual is the goal, not just bi...
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:04 PM
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3. Spanish
or French
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:05 PM
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4. why stop at one?
I'd start with Spanish, simply due to its applicability/practicality.
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Semi_subversive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:06 PM
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5. Don't laugh, but Latin
I have introduced all three of my kids to Latin and it's roots and it has helped them learn Spanish, German, French and Italian on a much more rapid pace.
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:10 PM
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9. Not even in question
Laugh? The kid's been studying Latin for 3 years. She's better at it than I am.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:06 PM
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6. Latin
So that they can have a good grip on other languages (including English), and so that they can understand their doctor's prescriptions.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:08 PM
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8. I'd say Spanish for a couple of reasons
1) It's the most prevalent second language in this country

2) If you can achieve fluency in one Latin based language, it's not difficult to learn the others.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:13 PM
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12. Espanol por favor
It's a fun language, and you get a lot of chances to practice it with real Spanish speakers.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:11 PM
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10. Japanese
It's the easiest to learn and draw.
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KCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:12 PM
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11. depends where you live
I'm in Houston, and sooooooooooooooo many of the want-ads ask for people bilingual in English/Spanish. I've had a bit of Spanish, but am (was) fluent in Russian and German instead. When I send off a resume, that usually gets me some attention.

If you're also in the South--Spanish can't hurt, by any means. But, when it comes to actually getting a job and standing out, I'd go for Chinese or Arabic, of the languages you listed.
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:17 PM
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13. Mandarin, Spanish English, are the 3 most popular

so those are all good values. Bahasa Indonesia is a good bargain, you get to talk to people from 9 islands and understand a little bit of a bunch more.

Arabic is a good value in theory but in practice it is so different in different places that you have to be careful not to have your kid ending up like somebody who learned English in Devonshire and then moved to Louisiana and tried to start a conversation.

If you teach them Hindi, you have secretly taught them a whole bunch of Urdu but you should never say that, as it makes people very mad. They use different alphabets and well, long story.

French is popular, and they will be able to talk to lots of people in Africa and in fancy restaurants.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:18 PM
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14. french
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:20 PM
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15. C
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 07:21 PM by HypnoToad
Java
HTML

Then teach him Indian...

</sardonic commentary on the anti-american corporations, traitors to us :-( >
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:22 PM
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17. What books and tapes do you have?
:hi:
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:11 PM
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26. You name it, I got it
Encylopedias in Spanish, Italian, French, German. Grammars and dictionaries in Japanese, Mandarin, Cantonese, Catalan, Spanish, French, German, Russian, Malayan, Urdu, Sanskrit, Dutch, Hungarian...grammars plus books and magazines in Arabic, Russian, Spanish...books, tapes, records, you name it. I'm not fluent in all of them, needless to say!
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:33 PM
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32. Wow! That's quite a collection!
Lots to choose from, that's for sure. :)
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:26 PM
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18. I worked in doing the language support for a major
piece of software. Outside of the Americas Spanish is not used. Spanish is a minor language in Europe. German and French are the major languages. Almost everybodies second language in Europe is English.

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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:26 PM
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19. Hispanics are the fastest growing segment of our population.
Spanish is the best choice, just to be able to converse with our fellow Americans.
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:30 PM
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20. Sign Language (especially if they can't speak yet)
It gets rid of a lot of frustration for very young children.

Oh, but middle school... let the kid decide for themself. I'd say it's more important that they are interested in learning the language.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:34 PM
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21. Spanish
Over a billion people in our own hemisphere speak it. :)
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Flaxbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:53 PM
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22. Spanish & Portuguese
...then she'll have the entire Western Hemisphere pretty much covered...

I studied French, Spanish and Italian but became fluent in none (at least not yet!). Spanish and Italian are not interchangeable, but quite complementary.

Russian would be neat to have, or perhaps Mandarin Chinese. China now has the world's biggest economy, and China, Russia & India have a mutual defense pact. If you think your daughter might be at all interested in government/politics one day, a language from one of those three countries might be helpful.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:56 PM
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esperanto?
sorry silly mood

Actually Latin is great, also increases SAT verbal scores, although they probably all do.
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Eumenides Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:54 PM
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23. Spanish is the loving tongue.
I prefer French.
:bounce:
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 07:56 PM
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24. Depends on what the Kid wants, eh?
Middle school age, she should be making some of her own decisions.

Story about learning a language...

Way back in 1983, I had a school buddy, majoring in Theatre with me, who spoke and read fluent Chinese... of several types.

When I last heard from him (1988?), he had gotten his Master's in Theatre Arts, and worked for the CIA... Translating and interpeting Chinese Plays and Movies... Seems that whenever the Chinese government wants to start a trend, they make a movie and/or play about it. If you can figure out the message in the latest plays and movies, you have a idea where the Chinese government is planning to go next. Go figure, a Theatre Major working for the CIA.
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:17 PM
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28. She's very agreeable
Like me, in this regard. "Whatever." Anything short of mortuary science, she's willing to learn it.
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fleetus Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:36 PM
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34. Language is worth getting fired up about.
Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 08:41 PM by fleetus
Besides the many practical reasons listed on this post, language is an opportunity to explore another culture. Maybe there is a culture she is interested in learning more about? That might help the choice seem less humdrum to her. Good luck!

On edit, a personal story: I picked German back in Jr. High based on an interest in the culture. I think it was a good justification because I stayed interested in the language for many years. Lots of my friends who took Spanish only because they thought it would "come in handy" saw their school work mostly as a chore.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:03 PM
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25. Since the child has a grounding in Latin, I'd say the next step
is a grounding in Mandarin. Latin provides a grounding in many western languages.

Mandarin will help provide a grounding in many Asian Languages.
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:28 PM
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31. And you never run out of stuff to read
:thumbsup:
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:14 PM
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27. umm, teach him to speak Joisey
It always gets a laugh!
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:24 PM
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30. In my youth I went there often
and never heard anyone speak Joisey on their side of the water! You notice little things, like they pronounce "broom" as "brum" rather than "brooom." (Short oo as in hook, not long oo as in moon.)

All that flavorful dialect is on the NY side, or I didn't wander around enough!
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renegade000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:24 PM
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29. chinese and latin....
eom
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-04 08:36 PM
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33. Chinese


With the economic policy being pursued and support by the Republicans, China will own this country in the next ten years. So get a head start on qualifying for a house servant position and learn Mandarin Chinese.
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