Guess who's a Democrat? Toby Kieth!

[absyntheNsugar]

Yep....just read it in Time Mag...he identifies himself as "A Very Conservative Democrat" and it also says something about him having "serious reservations against the war in Iraq."

WTF?????

[Armand]

1. He could've fooled me.

I thought he was a Bush Backer and ass kisser. :shrug:

[absyntheNsugar]

3. I wonder if he's expressing reservations

because it's the popular thing to do?

[Armand]

4. Ah...so he changes views because it's the popular thing to do?

Sounds familiar...

[corporatewhore]

2. its willie nelson rubbin off on him

[Deja Q]

5. Well, I wonder what he will say 8 months from now...

"I'm a very tolerant moderate republican"...

He's a crackpot in that respect, but at least he's waking up about Iraq. So there is hope.

[EXE619K]

6. Just trying to cover his Heinie!

He's gotta justify those scantily clad back-up singers somehow.

[JVS]

7. Zell Miller Democrat?

[BiggJawn]

35. Exactly. A "Zell Miller Democrat"...

What'd they call those ReTHUG lights from down south? Dixiecrats?

[Jade Fox]

8. So, can we expect an apology to the Dixie Chicks soon?

A very conservative Democrat.

The operative word there is "conservative" I think.

[absyntheNsugar]

9. Yes I was wondering...conservative like Strom Thurmond?

He was a Democrat for the majority of his career ya know!

Perhaps Ol' Toby's still sore over the Civil War...

[jmowreader]

10. He realized Bush screwed him

I think he was a true believer back around the time the boot-in-your-ass song "Courtesy of the Red, White and Blue" was released.

Most country singers are Republicans. They believe the president is looking out for the nation. So when Bush got on TV and start talking about a million pounds of chemical warfare agents, 38,000 litres of anthrax and UAVs that can hit New York, he believed him.

The guy doesn't have the defense background to think, "hang on, a UAV that can fly non-stop from Baghdad to New York City and back; did they make it out of a B-52?"

So now the truth is out: that everything the Bush administration said about Iraq, except that Saddam Hussein is crazier than a shithouse rat, was total fabrication. Now Toby Keith knows the Republican Party is damaging America in ways the Democrats can't even fathom. Hence, he's changed from being a Republican to being a "very conservative Democrat." Someone who's slightly to the left of Zell Miller.

It's a positive development, anyway.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

23. Actually, Toby supports the military...

blindly. His father was a vet. That's how he was raised. Why can't we just be glad that he's having doubts and just get on with it? He's not a horrible guy. He's not a great guy. Why do we even care? He's a country musician for God's sake.
Duckie

[IronLionZion]

11. Who gives a shit?

FUTK!

[Mobius]

12. Yeah, now he is

to little too late, still despise him :shrug:

[AgadorSparticus]

13. yeaa, and sean asstin is a self proclaimed "proud democrat"--whatever.

(he said that before going into a nauseating tirade of how great bush is on real time with bill maher). i don't believe it for one second about toby. but i'm leaving him room to redeem himself.

[anti_shrub]

14. Sean Astin?

Did he make pro-Bush comments? Why the derision in your tone?

[AgadorSparticus]

18. good lord yes

he was on the bill maher show. proclaimed himself to be a "proud democrat" and had the audacity to make statements like "bush is genuine" and how great he is. apparently he was invited to the white house and during his visit, he came to these conclusions.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

27. Astin went to the Dan Ackroyd school of non-partisanship.

I have no idea why a 'real' democrat would say such things. Sean calls himself a 'Clinton Democrat'.

[Ilsa]

36. Too bad such a fine actor as Astin

can't see what a bad actor The Fraud is. That is very disappointing.

[minkyboodle]

28. hate to say it

but he made a complete idiot of himself on Real Time with Bill Maher. He wasn't even cogent in his pro Bush/I'm really a Democrat views. IMO he came off as a moron. No knock on Samwise meant though
Scott

[Gildor Inglorion]

38. Damn, I hate to hear that!

I've thought Sean was great ever since "The Goonies." Maybe he'll come to his senses, but it's ruined Samwise for me for a while. I'll get over it, of course, but he should be ashamed of himself.

[ChoralScholar]

15. I guess we'll see what happens

If he turns out to be genuine, then I support him completely. After all I went through an ignorant republican phase. Anyone can change.

[LastKnight]

16. and im jerry falwell...

i mean... oops

edit: doesnt make his music suck any less

-LK

[OneBlueSky]

17. I saw Keith interviewed awhile back . . .

and he seemed pretty thoughtful and articulate . . . and he did indeed express some strong reservations about the Iraq war . . . I was surprised . . . just goes to show that you have to be careful when judging others . . .

[Spirochete]

19. About time he caught on

some people just aren't as quick as others.

[elperromagico]

20. Wasn't there a time when "very conservative Democrat"

was an oxymoron?

[el_gato]

21. any links?

I'd like to send this to my
ceservofascist brother in law
who loves toby keith

[PVnRT]

22. Right, whatever

:eyes:

[doc03]

24. CMT Dan Rather interview he said

that in time the Iraq war will probably be viewed as a mistake.

[felonious thunk]

25. Welcome Toby!

Though I haven't agreed with most of the ideas you've espoused, I certainly welcome you. We welcome conservative Democrats at our big table, and though we'll surely disagree on things, let's sit down and talk about the future of our country. Vote Democratic this year, and help this country achieve its potential!

[ZenLefty]

26. Is that the same guy that's on the Ford commercials????

Ahm a Ford truck ma-yan,
That's all ah drive,
Ain't got no boundraaaaahs,
No compromaise...

?!?!

Wow. Good for him.

[minkyboodle]

29. All About Willie

He must be workin miracles.....
Scott

[Hammie]

30. Who is Toby Kieth

And what is a "Conservative Democrat"?

[argyl]

31. He's still a hack.I don't care if Willie DOES like him.

And I've been a Willie Nelson fan since he left Nashville and came back to Austin.About 35 years ago.

[VOX]

32. Dixiecrat.

What most Southern white men were before they moved over to the Republican Party.

[peacebuzzard]

33. Isn't he the one w/ song titled, "Red, White and Blue"

and about "kicking their ass"? It has been on MTV? I hate that song.

[mvd]

34. Very Conservative Democrat = Zell Miller

And, I can't stand Zell. But I hope Zell stays a Dem for future numbers in the Senate, and I hope Toby stays a Dem if he's seeing things like the war differently.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

37. Re: "Kobe Teeth"

I don't give a damn what he said in his interview with Dan Rather or or to anyone else. If he ever apologizes for what he said and did to the Dixie Chicks last year, which I believe will happen when swine fly, then maybe I'll be able to bring myself to listen to his xenophobic music. He took a page out of Saxby Chambliss' playbook on that one. Conservative Democrat my ass, this guy is all about the money.

As for his Dad being a vet, mine was also.He enlisted during 1942 when he didn't have to, he a had a job with US Steel and he couldn't be drafted. If my father was alive today, he'd abhore "Box of Rocks" aka Chimpy as much as I do and completely disregard the opinions of anyone who supported him.

FUTK, FUTK

[drumwolf]

39. Toby Keith has apparently had reservations about Iraq for a while now.

Keith took a long pause to consider his words, and then added: "I was for Afghanistan, 100%. We got struck and the Taliban needed to be exterminated, but this war here, in Iraq, I didn't necessarily have it all worked out. It didn't work out for me. I know a tyrant is gone and all of that, but whether it was our duty to go do that, well, I haven't figured that out."

LA Times article, August 26, 2003