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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:24 PM
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Absurdly difficult video game bosses...memories of frustrating pixellated ass-whuppings.
I'm a nerd. I like being a nerd. I've been a nerd for most of my life, and for most of THOSE years, I have been a gaming nerd. I started with Super Mario Brothers on the NES and soon moved onto Contra, Legend of Zelda, and the original Final Fantasy. Over the years, I have come to really enjoy boss fights as the ultimate challenge of one's skills and capabilities. Sometimes they require crazy reflexes and quick reactions, sometimes they require excellent thinking and planning, and sometimes they just require luck. In the worst case, they require all three.

There is, of course, a fair share of utterly pathetic wussy bosses that are hardly worth remembering, but who cares about them?
This thought came to me as I was playing through the Nintendo DS remake of Final Fantasy IV, which has enhanced the difficulty of the bosses. Now, formerly wussy bosses have become nightmarish exercises in futility and humiliation.
In honor of the remake of Final Fantasy IV, here are five examples of the most ridiculously difficult bosses ever encountered:
(In no particular order):

1. Dynamo Man (Rockman and Forte)

Huh? You may ask? Who's this loser? If you're saying this, then you are a lucky, lucky bastard. This asshole easily takes the prize for most frustratingly difficult boss in the entire Megaman series, I am not joking. Why? Because not only are his attacks hard to dodge, and cause tons of damage, he can heal himself. Frequently. And it's really really hard to prevent him from doing it. When you face this metal nightmare, expect a long, drawn-out bloodbath that will have you wanting to punch our little blue hero square in the junk.

2. Mike Tyson (Mike Tyson's Punch Out)

Who else? The final opponent in Mike Tyson's Punch Out is none other than Mr. "I Will Eat Your Children" himself. It's almost funny how unfair this fight is. He starts off by throwing ridiculous punches again and again with no sign of letting up, and getting so much as tapped will send you sprawling. It's more than a minute before you can even touch him, and then it doesn't get any easier. Punch out is hard enough already, but this takes the difficulty to a whole new level of frustration tolerance. If you can face this man-beast without throwing your controller in exasperation, then you are a better man than I.

3. Dr. Lugae/Barnabas/Lugaborg (Final Fantasy IV DS)

I couldn't find a good pic of him from the DS version. Dear lord, this is one of the most ridiculously unfair bosses I've ever had the pleasure to be subjected to. In the original SNES game, he's a wuss. In the re-imagined FFIV, he's a nightmare. He starts the battle by casting 'Reversal Gas' which switches healing and damaging effects. So, cure spells cause damage, attacks and damaging spells heal. Then he stars spamming cure spells on your party. This wouldn't be so bad if he couldn't remove reverse at will. And then turn it on again. Or off. And on. And off. As much as he damn well pleases. The battle becomes a frustrating exercise in trying to predict what to do next, while desparately trying to stay alive as he pummels you ceaselessly with overpowered beam and fire attacks. There is a cheap way to win, and it's just about your only option. I hate this bastard.

4. Death and Dracula (Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin)

You've fought Dracula before. You've fought Death before. How about at the same time? It's a first in the Castlevania series...and it's kick you in the ass hard. It's a lot of fun, though. :) One of my personal favorite boss fights in the the entire series :)

5. Golemtwins (Chrono Trigger):

It's like somebody took pain, frustration, futility, gave it form, and multiplied it by two. That's what this battle is like. Anything you can do, they can do better, and if you don't think fast and come up with a rock-solid strategy, you'll be dead right quick. Some people say that this battle is really. I say that some people are fucking liars. If only Dalton were half as strong as his Golemtwins, he wouldn't be the huge sack of Fail he turned out to be. This is easily the most difficult boss in Chrono Trigger, and that's saying something. Too bad the Golemboss is such a wuss.

Hope you enjoyed this. Feel free to chime in with some of your own, or to tell me how wimpy these five are, and that I suck at life. :hi:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:29 PM
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1. Grrrrr...fucking Golemtwins!
Thanks...I was trying to block that episode from my life.

I actually don't get into the boss battles that much. Far more often than not they have one critical weakness that, once discovered, can be exploited too easily. I usually have a harder time getting to the bosses than beating them.

Those fucking Golemtwins though.... :banghead:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:34 PM
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2. Yeah, that's why I like the ones without the easily exploitable weakness.
The Golemtwins, for instance :D
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:34 PM
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3. What did you post in my thread last night?
Oh yeah... "This approaches levels of nerdiness that may be toxic to normal humans."


:rofl: :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:36 PM
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4. You know you love it.
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:41 PM
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6. Nahh, I tolerate it.
:rofl: :evilgrin:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:45 PM
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7. You know you're as much of a nerd as I am.
:)
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:49 PM
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9. I know, I'm just teasing you.
Ohh! My brother old me the other day that they're going to Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories for PS2. I's esscited.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:54 PM
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10. They already MADE it, it just hasn't been released in the US yet.
It's packaged along with a 'Final Mix' of Kingdom Hearts 2 which included added scenes between Roxas and Axel, and the chance to fight all thirteen members of the organization. :)
I have to warn you that Chain of Memories is absurdly difficult. Captain Hook is total dick in that game. :)
On an added note, I've been hoping against hope for a year now that they'd release the Final Mix/Chain of Memories in the U.S.
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:56 PM
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12. Well screw that.
We wants! Gives it to us!!!!


Yes, I'm channeling Gollum. :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:01 PM
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14. Oh my god, so it IS true!
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 05:04 PM by Elrond Hubbard
edit: they ARE releasing chain of memories in the U.S. :)
Unfortunately, it doesn't come with the KH2 Final Mix (I don't think), but still, I'll take it :)
http://www.square-enix.com/na/company/press/2008/0919/
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:05 PM
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15. That could very well be.
We can hope. :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:07 PM
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16. Well, it's a press release from Square-Enix themselves, so it's legit.
That's awesome. :)
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:20 PM
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24. Yay!
Now I'm esscited again.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:25 PM
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26. How was yesterday?
:)
I know how much you like working on Saturdays, after all...
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:34 PM
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29. Oh, it was stupid.
As usual. :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:43 PM
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31. Were you hungover?
:)
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:51 PM
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37. No, you bastard.
:P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:54 PM
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40. Sorry, had to ask =)
:hug:
First dude-ly responsibilities, you know. :freak:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:02 PM
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47. Surrrrrre.
:eyes:






:P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:03 PM
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49. What, did you say somethin? I was busy oiling up my snowmobile.
:P
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:06 PM
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50. That's fine, keep yourself busy.
I'm watching Vampire Hunter D on youtube. :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:07 PM
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51. Oh! I saw that once! It was awesome...but really really sad.
:cry:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:09 PM
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52. Don't ruin it!
Geez. :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:29 PM
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55. Oops! It's your first time?
:D
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:37 PM
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56. Yes, I'm bored. So I'm watching anime on youtube.
I am teh nerd. :rofl:
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:40 PM
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5. OMG Mike Tyson!
I swear my 6,7 and 8 year old self spent countless hours trying to beat that bastard to no avail...and this was in the days before memory cards so you had to work your way up to him every time which was no picnic once you got to Soda Popinski
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:46 PM
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8. Soda Popinski was a jerk, who funnily enough, was originally called Vodka Drunkenski.
I'm not kidding.

I was never able to beat Mike Tyson.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:56 PM
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11. lol...nothing like a little Cold War era stereotyping
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 04:57 PM
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13. What amuses me is that his quotes in the game make obvious references to alcohol...
and that they crudely wrote 'soda' on the mysterious green bottle that is permanently attached to his lips.
Oh, and that his skin is pink. :P
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:11 PM
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19. I think it would have been more fun to be constantly bludgeoned...
by a vodka swilling Commie rather than a soda swilling one :P
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:16 PM
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22. The original arcade version of Punch Out! featured the dreaded 'Pizza Pasta'.
Super punch out added more ridiculous stereotypes to the lineup, including the insulting racist Mexican Wrestler-turned-boxer, 'Bob Charlie,' an Irish brawler who might as well have been swilling Guiness and who is called 'Aran Ryan' (Aryan? REALLY??), and a Japanese boxer so insulting effeminate, you'll at least appreciate that Japan insults their own kind as much, if not more, they insult others.

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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:26 PM
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27. Holy racism batman!
:wow:
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:28 PM
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28. Oh, and Bob Charlie has a move called 'Shuck n' jive'
:D
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:59 PM
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58. I-Mockery did a great retrospective interview with Soda...
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deucemagnet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:08 PM
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17. I can't believe Ozma from FFIX didn't make your list.


This is one bad-ass orb of swirly color. Casts "curse" on your entire party, and before you can remedy everybody he casts "meteor" and fucks you up. I sat in front of the Playstation for six hours before I finally beat the spherical bastard.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:10 PM
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18. I decided not to include optional super bosses...since those are exercises in suffering you
inflict upon yourself willingly. :)
Ozma is indeed one hell of a bastard.
FFIX is my favorite of the series!
Have you ever played FFXII, by the way? Some incredibly difficult optional bosses in that one, including one with 50,000,000 HP.
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deucemagnet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:13 PM
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20. No, I never got a Playstation II, so IX is the last one I played.
Maybe I should see if I can by a cheap one secondhand.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:19 PM
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23. You can get them cheap enough now, and there are a number of awesome Square-Enix games you can get..
Dragon Quest VIII, Kingdom Hearts I and II, Final Fantasy X and XII (X is mediocre, XII is amazing, possibly as good as VII or VI).
Also worth checking out is the Xenosaga series (Xenosage Episodes I, II, and III)...they are excellent and seriously underrated RPG's.
Also Star Ocean: Till The End of Time...and if you're so inclined, pick up Resident Evil 4 as well, it is one of the greatest games ever. Seriously.
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deucemagnet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:45 PM
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33. I loved Star Ocean II
The graphics weren't great, but the game design was really unique and the real-time battle system was a nice change from the usual turn-based RPG battle system.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 11:25 PM
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61. I must be some kind of crazy ass super genius then
I've never had a hard time with Ozma.

It's all about prep, like 99.9% of optional Final Fantasy boss fights.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:47 PM
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66. I prefer it when battles require you to think and act quickly...
while throwing a monkey wrench in the works every now and then.
That's not seen often enough in the FF games, but FFXII manages to do it every now and then.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:56 AM
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63. I remember that bastard.
That's the only time I used a FAQ sheet in a Final Fantasy game. And even then I had to take my party around for two days to beef them up enough to beat him.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:15 PM
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21. Two that I remember as being difficult.
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 05:16 PM by MilesColtrane
Killing Mad Jack with Tiny Kong in Donkey Kong 64 took a long time. The main problem is being able to see where you are jumping. The camera didn't always cooperate.
In order to evade attacks you have to jump to different squares without hesitating. You just can't always see where you're jumping until you're in mid air.

Bongo Bongo in Zelda Ocarina of Time took a while too.


The REALLY gnarly ones I've probably blocked out as too traumatic.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:20 PM
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25. Unfortunately, I never had an N64
:(
I hear Bongo Bongo makes a comeback in Phantom Hourglass, which I have. I just haven't gotten that far yet. :)
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:41 PM
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30. Before I got the internet
My favorite boss was in descent 2. I used to play with headphones and he got downright scary and nasty at times!!

Then I started playing descent 3 but by then I had broadband and was playing other gamers online. I never played the game itself so I have no idea what the D3 boss is like.

I gave up gaming online when I broke up with my ex and couldn't afford the joysticks anymore. I probably spent 100.00 every three months or so because I would wear them out from playing all the time.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:44 PM
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32. Descent...I've heard of it before, but I've never played and I'm not sure what it's about.
What is it? :)
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:25 PM
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54. It's loads of fun
You are in a one seater spaceship that can go warp speed and you fight these robots that infects mines on different planets. I was so hooked on the game that I considered getting a tat of the spacecraft on my leg. I spent hours and hours playing the game and playing others. The real skill used in the game is barrel rolling through an attack and trichording on your keyboard. That is where you thrust, slide,and bank at the same time. You can really move if you are good at trichcording.

You can use audibles to taunt the other players you are playing on the network. I had one guy really get mad at me because I used a fucked up, mean, laugh as an audible. I never felt bad for the guys that got mad at my taunts because you can turn the taunts off with a flip of a switch, yet they leave them on. Afraid they will miss something I guess.

I really enjoyed the kids, adults, and seniors that played. Someone would host a LAN party and they would get together and spend all week-end playing. Getting very little sleep.

My favorite descent story was I was chasing down this player in a network game. There was something "off" about how he controlled his ship, but he could really lay down some hard core strafing. About a week later I found out this was a kid that was 5-years-old.

Good times, I tell you...
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 07:10 PM
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57. It's an exercise to see who is capable of thinking and moving in a fully 3d way and who isn't.
It's one of those games where either you can learn to play it or you can't. And it's fun to do multiplayer with a few people who can do it and a bunch of people who can't. :evilgrin:
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:47 PM
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34. The final demon in Diablo II
Great fight and a hellish trek to get to him. But it took me several tries to figure out how to beat him.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:51 PM
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35. Diablo or Baal?
If you meant Diablo, I agree, Diablo is indeed quite hard :) I think Duriel is just as hard, though.
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:55 PM
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42. It's been so long, I don't remember exept that it was the boss
in the castle at the end of the causeway where there are four rooms that you have to clear before you unleash the baddie.

But then again, I have loved all the Diablo games and can't wait for the new one coming out soon.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:57 PM
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44. Welcome to DU, btw.

:hi:
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:51 PM
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36. Oh god the Golem Twins in Chrono Trigger...
what a pain in the ass. I fucking hated those two. They took forever to die.

Did you know Chrono Trigger is coming out for the Nintendo DS later this year?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:52 PM
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38. I do know, and I am counting the days.
It's one of my favorites ever. :D
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:54 PM
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39. I almost shit my pants when I heard that from the E3 show this year.
I'm so looking forward to it.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:55 PM
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41. Me too! Have you played the re-make of FFIV, by any chance?
oh, and welcome to DU. :)
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:55 PM
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43. No, I haven't.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 05:59 PM
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45. It's worth picking up. Great graphics, added voice acting...
and most of the bosses have increased exponentially in difficulty. It's standard in any boss fight to get your ass handed to you the first time. Then you learn from it, come back, and narrowly win the second time around. :)
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:01 PM
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46. It's for the DS, huh?
I may have to go pick it up tonight. :)
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:03 PM
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48. You won't be disappointed.
Trust me, though, the fight against Lugae is ridiculous. It's almost comically unfair.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 06:23 PM
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53. Ford Pinto ignition puzzle Robot Odyssey
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 08:09 PM
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59. My brother was a game artist. Of Wing Commander and others...
He had more natural talent in his little finger than I had in my whole body.

He passed away just last October:
http://www.wcnews.com/articles/briansmith.shtml
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:51 PM
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68. ...
:hug:
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-21-08 11:23 PM
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60. Sorry dude, you suck at life
Edited on Sun Sep-21-08 11:27 PM by Chovexani
:evilgrin:

Dr. Lugae has never been hard, not in Easy Type, Hard Type, or DS Type. The DS version of the fight tosses in some randomization with the Reverse Gas, but that's easily countered by being properly leveled and having your augments set up correctly (ie: Rosa with Dualcast). You hit him hard and fast and it's a moot point anyway. Shit, there isn't a hard boss fight in that game period, with the possible exception of the boss fights in the Tower of Zot purely because of how shitty your party is at that point in the game; your only mage has limited MP and your main damage dealer's a glass cannon. The only Game Over I got in three playthroughs of the DS remake was on Barbariccia my first time around.

Square RPGs and Final Fantasies in particular are just fucking easy, and I love them to death in spite of it, but I have no idea how people have a hard time with them. All you really need is to be properly geared and pay attention for 99% of the fights. The first game is really the only hard one, at least until FFXII came out and introduced us to the Henne Mines and low level suicide runs into the Necrohol of Nabudis to grab the Zodiac Spear. That latter thing was in all seriousness the first Game Over screen I've seen in a Final Fantasy since the very first one. Now that shit was Nintendo Hard.*

(Also bro I hate to break it to you but there hasn't been a hard Castlevania since IGA took over. ;) )

:hug:

*(I will lure you to TV Tropes for the definition of Nintendo Hard, but will not be responsible for the loss of the rest of your week/month/life: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NintendoHard )
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 04:34 AM
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62. breaking plane of time in eq1
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:46 PM
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65. I didn't have dualcast, because I didn't give Palom and Porom any augments.
I'll get it on the second playthrough. I seemed to have bad luck, like Lugae doing reversal gas just as I'm about to use blizzaga to heal my party, or him spamming Beam over and over (2000+ damage). I think my biggest problem was being underlevelled. I had a bit of trouble with Dark Elf/Dragon the first time. Scarmiglion kicked my ass the first time I fought him, only because I wasn't expecting him to actually be dangerous this time :P
Barbariccia I found to be easy but annoying. The Magus Sisters were just stupid. Right now I just finished the Sylph Cave.

Yeah, I found FFXII to be actually challenging, much more so than other games in the series. I know people love VI and VII, but they are both way too easy.
I think Neo Ex-Death ranks as the hardest final boss in the series (FFV).


Okay, have you played Castlevania: Curse of Darkness in Crazy mode? I found it extraordinarily difficult.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:58 AM
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64. Suikoden II is basically unwinnable even with major cheating
I don't know if army battles count as video game bosses, but in Suikoden II it is literally impossible to get the 108 stars you need to get the "good" ending after the last battle. One of the stars is time sensitive and it's impossible to get him in the first forty hours of play without skipping some other stars.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-22-08 07:48 PM
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67. I've heard that game is insanely difficult.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 09:15 AM
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69. I love all the Suikoden titles
but I've never finished any of them. They're all about finding the stars and playing the mini-games and by the time you do that you've completely lost the plot and don't care about the final battle.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-23-08 03:28 PM
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70. quick chime in
mike tyson was incredibly easy once you got his pattern down and knew the strategy to react...once i made it to him, it only took a saturday and part of a sunday to defeat him.

i could knock him out, or if i really wanted to show off, i would win a decision...
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