Sooo, firing an employee

[dropkickpa]

I've fired people at other jobs, never realy bugged me. My issue now is the guy in question happens to be the asociate director's best friends brother, and I've hit a lot of road blocks from her in the past just disciplining him. AD is out having surgery and on friday guy no call/no showed and didn't show up until 11:30am on Monday (not the first time he's been late, 7:30 is our start time). I spoke with our HR department, and the rep went to legal and feels termination is more than feasible, and has cleared it with legal. He has already told me he's planning on quitting, and he's received several warnings in the last 3 months, so it won't be a surprise except that he won't be happy.

I am clearing all of this with my departments director prior to proceeding, but my fear is that my AD will construe it as going behind her back, which isn't the case, it just so happened that yet another incident occurred while she was out and she's not there to argue on his behalf with HR. How much trouble do you think this will cause me even with all of the back up I have, from the department director, to HR, to legal?

[flvegan]

1. When is AD back?

If you think it will be such an issue, it might be worth a couple days holding off to execute. If your termination case is ironclad, you're being very giving and considerate and the AD shouldn't have much issue in the future.

My next question is in regards to your corporate rank in regards to this AD.

[dropkickpa]

2. She won't be back for 3 weeks

And HR feels it's something that shouldn't wait. The AD is my direct superior, the Director is just above her. The case is more than ironclad, if I worked anywhere else and she hadn't stonewalled in the past, he would have been gone within 2 months of hire ANYWHERE else. I actually like him as a person, but his absenteeism and chronic tardiness are REALLY having a bad effect on the rest of my staff.

[flvegan]

3. 3 weeks?

Can him.

[dropkickpa]

6. It's pretty much a given

I just hope AD doesn't give me too much shit.

[petronius]

4. I say can him now. But all that backup you have? Get it in writing... (nt)

[dropkickpa]

5. Oh believe me, it is all documented

Cover Yer Ass is the mantra of this place.