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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:06 AM
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Other great bigoted movies
Let's help fans of The Passion expand their horizons by providing a list of other good or great offensive movies.

Sexist movies: In the Company of Men; Crumb
Homophobic movies: Cruising
Racist movies: Birth of a Nation (1986)
Anti-Semitic movie: Triumph of the Will (1934)



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packerssuck Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:14 AM
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1. Was Amos and Andy offensive?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:18 AM
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2. You forgot movies bigoted against people with a modicum of good taste. .
Glitter
Battlefield Earth

The list goes on :) :) :)
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packerssuck Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:23 AM
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3. and:
Ghostbusters
Gigli
Bad News Bears sequels
Jaws4 and Jaws 3d
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:40 AM
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4. Ghostbusters??
sorry but that's great comedy there.
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packerssuck Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:48 AM
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5. Too commercial for my taste. Staypuff was cool.
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:27 PM
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15. Ghostbusters was bigoted?
And Jaws 3 and 4?
Huh????

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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:50 AM
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6. "Birth of a Nation" came out in 1915.
"Triumph of the Will" wasn't explicitly anti-semitic (at least as far as I recall), but there were some really loathsome movies of that sort during that period in Germany. One notorious example was "The Eternal Jew" (1940): http://www.holocaust-info.dk/shm/uk.htm I hadn't thought about that film until now, and a Google-search has left my skin crawling.

pnorman
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packerssuck Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 07:53 AM
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7. I bet that Preston Bush had stock in that movie.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:00 PM
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11. You mean Prescott Bush? n/t
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:25 AM
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8. yeah, that was quite a typo
Yes, I did mean birth of a nation 1915.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:41 AM
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9. would have to disagree that "In the Company of Men" is sexist...
Its more about men hating each other that hating women. The woman
is the only sympathetic character in the film, and both of the men are
in love with her.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 10:46 AM
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10. "Hips or lips?"
Ah, "Crusing".

"Crusing" is a vile, contemptable film. A piece of celluloid garbage.

I like to think that one good aspect of "Crusing" was that Hollywood began to address the problem of portrayal of gays and lesbians in films after "Crusing" came out. "Crusing" was the target of protests by gay people. And rightfully so.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:04 PM
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12. Gone with the Wind
pre-1960 view of blacks, carpetbaggers, genteel and noble Southerners. :puke:
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:09 PM
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13. Song of the South?
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absyntheNsugar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:25 PM
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14. In the Company of Men was anti-sexist I believe
By shining a light at two heartless sexist bastards, it pretty much made all men look at themsleves. I wouldn't call it sexist...

And I wouldn't consider Crumb really sexist either - but I have no idea how to describe that movie so I'll stop there.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:31 PM
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16. Crumb?
I'd dispute that a documentary about a sexist person is itself necessarily a sexist film. The film shows his wife to be a very strong, smart and talented person.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 01:42 PM
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17. A Different Story
from 1978. It's about a gay man and a lesbian (gay man=promiscuous, lesbian=psychologically imbalanced) who fall in love with each other. It has an underlying message, "It's only a phase" and "you just haven't met the right man/woman". HATE that film.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 02:40 PM
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19. Yes, that was horrible.
Worst moment in "A Different Story"...

Perry King and Meg Foster, as gay man and lesbian get married. Peg finds out that Perry is cheating on her. She finds Perry in the shower with someone else. Peg opens the shower door...and Perry is in the shower with another person, all right...another WOMAN. Man, when Perry turned straight, he did so with a vengenace, I guess.

Horrible, horrible movie with a awful underlying message. I completely agree with you about "A Different Story"

Terry
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 02:01 PM
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18. The Searchers? Other anti-Native American Movies?
John Ford's masterpiece "The Searchers" (1956) portrayed a main character played by John Wayne who was probably the most racist anti-Indian (or anti-any race for that matter) character in any movie ever made. Apart from the main characer's POV in that movie, there really is nothing positive about Native Americans in that film either. You might also mention "They Died With Their Boots On" (1941) with Errol Flynn as Custer, that portrayed Indians as the untermenschen of their day, with Custer and the White Man as the herrenvolk. John Huston's "Unforgiven" might also be another example.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 02:46 PM
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20. Boys in the Band
most homophobic, awful piece of shit I have ever seen.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 02:58 PM
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22. I can understand what you're saying. I think "BITB" is a film of its time.
Don't get me wrong...I wince a bit every time I see "Boys in the Band". Especially the line from the film "Show me a happy homosexual and I'll show you a dead corpse". There was a lot of self loathing in "Boys".

I just think, though, it was a movie of its time. "Boys" was written before Stonewall. Mart Crowley, the playwright, is gay. He wrote "Boys" at a time when the gay community was in its infant stages. Crowley wrote of a world he saw...a world where gay bars were still routinely raided and the patrons arrested just for who they were.

I think of "Boys in the Band" today as an important artifact...a moment of history. It's an unpleasant film at times. But there also, in the film, IS that beginning sense of community. And amidst the self loathing, that ckear sense of community and friendship is a true redeeming quality.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 02:51 PM
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21. Crumb wasn't sexist, it was honest.
Huge fan of Crumb's work here. If Crumb was really sexist, Aline Kaminsky wouldn't have lived with him for so long.

Crumb at least acknowledges the way a lot of men feel about women and uses his art to exorcise his demons; he realizes he's not healthy, and uses his art as an outlet instead of actually harming someone. Whether or not that's sexist, I guess, ought to be left up to women to decide. But he scores points for being honest about it.
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