Is there some kind of subculture that is the polar opposite of Straight Edge?

[JVS]

Where do I go if I don't like punk music and I like lots of drinking, drugs, and sex. Where's my niche dammit?

[rcrush]

1. Anywhere

[JVS]

3. No way, we're not being nearly hardcore enough in our crooked-edge philosophy

I'm not talking about an ethos where you simply discard the prohibitions against vice. I'm talking about people who embrace them fully. If straight edge says "say no to drugs" then "do drugs as you please" is an inadequate response. The proper correction is "say yes!"

[Danger Mouse]

2. Pretty much anywhere?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

4. Theatre

Trust me on this.

[JVS]

6. are you part of the scene? could you show me the ropes?

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

9. I used to work in theatre

Now, I work for a very evil Republican in life insurance. It pays better.

My officemate and I say it's like being stuck on the set of Rush Limbaugh everyday.

[JVS]

12. I don't want to hear about your shitty new job, tell about your awesome old job...

in which vice and degeneration ruled the day!

[fNord]

5. Gonzoland.......

[JVS]

10. Shouldn't it be less violent in aesthetic to be opposite the straight-edge

They are teh Punxx and thus a bit too rough

[flvegan]

7. Woodstock, you hippie.

[JVS]

8. Oh no, several problems there.

1) it was nearly 40 fucking years ago and I can't time travel
2) I'd inevitably bump into the preachy hippy who thinks that drinking a quart of scotch and puking all over the place is a "real bringdown, man"
3) on a more abstract level, both the straight edge and the hippy embrace too much of an ethical system for their operations, which I find decidedly bad.

[fNord]

11. I can time travle......

why just yesterday I visited yesterday

[flvegan]

16. Aren't the Deadheads largely

a sex, drugs and rock n roll type? No, maybe that's Elvis.

[fNord]

17. they can't remember

[Chan790]

13. Hedonism.

not really a subculture as much as an ethos...there are hedonistic cadres of many certain subcultures. If you can conceptualize it in concert with hedonism, it almost certainly exists.

[Initech]

14. Personally I like the "Get Fucked Up Club".

We meet Fridays at the bar. From after work until whenever.

[JVS]

15. I used to be a member of such a club.

They're often tough to find again when one relocates.

[LeftyMom]

18. Shitkicker bars.

Of course, their music sucks and most of the people who go to them have an IQ generally associated with the stuff that grows at the waterline of infrequently cleaned toilets, so I don't recommend them. But they drink, smoke and fuck, and you'll never hear a punk rock song.

[JVS]

19. Alright! I'll try there in my quest!

[Ellen Forradalom]

20. POLKA

[JVS]

27. Tempting.

[rcrush]

21. Rehab.

[enigmatic]

22. It's called "Lemmy"

[mdmc]

23. It is hard to relocate

very hard.
hang in there...

[Athens30603]

24. Hell, man...

drunk punk, crust punk, peace punk, rockabilly punk, garage-n-surf punk. All these genres are packed to the gills with alcohol.

[JVS]

25. But I'm really not fond of punk either.

I really want to show those straight-edge fuckers by rejecting everything they stand for.

[Athens30603]

30. You've got straight edge and punk confused.

99% of straight edge kids wouldn't know any of the bands in any of the genres I mentioned.

[JVS]

32. No. I know that they're not the same. I'm not fond of either though.

[old mark]

26. You should have been a hippie - probably born too late.

You can try to start the hippie thing going again, if it ever really left. I hope you enjoy yourself - I sure did.


mark

[unpossibles]

28. Burning Man

although some straight edgers go there too, as it is fairly representative of most cultures and subcultures.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

29. Biker Bars.

all that leather, too.

[Fire Walk With Me]

31. Church.

Wait, wrong thread. ;)

[Tektonik]

33. Go to Ibiza next summer

[JVS]

34. hmmmm

[cemaphonic]

35. Opposite you say?

Let's see. You've gotta have the drugs and sex of course. "Punk" dress is right out - you're looking for not-black, and kinda nerdy. The musical opposite of three-chord punk rock would have to be long, complex and melodic.

Ah, here we go - this is perfect:

[JVS]

38. Alex and his droogs! How total horror show!

[harmonicon]

36. I think so, and I think I'm in it

[JVS]

37. Where is the hangout?

[harmonicon]

40. the rat and ratchet

it's a pub

or, there's a park in Chicago where we sometimes hang out after abusing pharmaceuticals.

[tigereye]

39. you need to hang out with the glitterati?

with too much money for their own good.

[rcrush]

41. A Crack House!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

42. Subculture? No. Culture.

Culture is the polar opposite of Straight Edge.