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Sat Feb-28-04 02:40 PM
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Stupid things said by RW Christian coworkers... |
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Me: Didn't Jesus say "whatsoever you do to the least of my brothers, that you do unto me?"
Him: Yeah, but he meant only if they were saved.
Me: Why does gay marriage threaten the institution of marriage?
Him: Because marriage is a metaphor for the relationship between the church and God. Women are like the church and are there to serve god, and Men are like god.
Him: It's ok to lie and cheat and still and kill as long as you are sorry about it, and accept Jesus into your heart you will go to Heaven. Even the most vile mass murderer will still go to heaven if he just accepts Jesus into his heart.
These are just a few. Thought I would share. How about you guys? What stupid things have right wing Christians said to you?
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:46 PM
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3. Typical! Recovering catholic here... |
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And I will be the first to admit that the church has it's problems, but to blame the parishoners for a problem within the clergy, when the parishoners clearly have no say in who their priest is, is just irresponsible.
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:56 PM
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9. I never thought of that... that parishoners don't have a say |
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in their priest.
I know Lutheran pastors say that they have accepted a calling when going to another church that has requested them. At least they have a choice in who will serve them and terminating their services if they find a need to change.
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Sat Feb-28-04 05:53 PM
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36. You're right. It was so offensive. |
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Too offensive to waste space on the board, but I wanted to point out that the things that fundamentalists force upon others are not just free speech. They really hurt everyone, even if they aren't Catholic or whatever group the fundies attack.
I just want to point out that I did object to the comments. I apologize for bringing them here.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:30 PM
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21. RWs do nothing socially |
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Me, being a Catholic, and definitely not a right-wing Christian, cannot understand where many of their beliefs come from. I very seldom see right wing Christian churches doing anything for our poor and homeless out of plain charity. If they do, its usually to proselytize.
The Catholic Church has faults... and had its ups and downs though out the centuries. We only hear about the bad that happens, unfortunately, and never the good it does among our poor. Also, we are certainly learning from this experience (pedophiles), that hopefully it may not happen again. And yes, I know we have have been on the receiving end of many snide remarks, and righteously so.
The majority of us (Catholics) are very aware of the social issues that have plagued this country for years, and we have been working to make a difference. Its not the Bishops and Priests, but the faith-full, and we see Bush & Co. as an obstacle to our goal.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:59 PM
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25. Just because YOU don't see it-- |
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--doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I work for a Christian-based social service agency. Our director once went MONTHS without pay because there were no funds. There are churches (mostly what you would refer to as "fundie) here that are raising money for car repairs for some families, a well for another family. We had a fund-raiser a week or so ago and took in $2400. I worked at a resource center last week with a woman who is very definitely a "fundie." Although she is certainly not rich herself, she reached out, volunteered for a several hours (after a full day of work,) and treated the clients with dignity and respect. I guess maybe you shouldn't make blanket statements about any group of people. I wonder how many "RW Christians" you actually know, that would enable you to stereotype like that. Sheeeeesh.
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Sat Feb-28-04 06:37 PM
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What I am talking about is that what I see in my city. You see Main line Protestant groups (and Catholic) combining their resources to shelter and feed the poor in our city. Also, They don't make you hear a sermon (or pray) before you receive help or food. Nourish the body first.
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:44 PM
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2. Well, right wing christians didn't say it DIRECTLY to me, but... |
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"God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" has got to be one of the idiotic statements ever conceived in the history of mankind. The fundies have dusted this stale old chestnut in the gay marriage discussion. This statement is particularly moronic when one sees the footage of male couples being married in San Francisco.
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:47 PM
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5. I thought God made everyone |
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Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 02:48 PM by pagerbear
That's my comment, not some fundy's
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:48 PM
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6. yeah, that one is pretty stupid. |
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especially for a Darwinist, like me.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:08 PM
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16. Wasn't Eve an afterthought according to the bible? |
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Adam was made first. Then god decided to make a helpmate for Adam. Right?
How was it that Adam needed a male organ if Eve was an afterthought?
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Sat Feb-28-04 04:00 PM
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If you follow your old Semitic folk tales, first God Made Adam Lilith, but she was hard to keep and didn't follow orders well - and ran away. So God made Eve...or so the story goes.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:59 PM
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24. One video clip on KRON |
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Had two recently married guys holding signs, one holding an "Adam" sign, and the other with a ...you guessed it "Steve" sign.
I about died laughing!
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Sat Feb-28-04 08:02 PM
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44. God also made Jesus who travelled everywhere with 12 male disciples |
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Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:47 PM
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4. Not to me, but to my wife: |
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In Nashville, my wife worked with a bunch of fundies who were always trying to convert her. One day she got into an argument about the "superiority" of their religion over all others (my wife's an atheist, like me.). She asked one of them, "well, what about the Native Americans?"
To which the fundie replied, "Oh, I believe they existed." As in, he didn't actually believe that there were Indians living in America before the whites got here...or most people he knew regared their existence as superstition, but he was "wise enough" not to. Or something. To this day, we're both very confued about this statement.
This was one of 455,810 stupid o evil or annoying things said to me or my wife by fundies while we lived in Nashville (y'know, home of the Southern Baptist Convention, Lifeway Industries, home of the Contemporary Christian music scene, etc. etc.....)
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Sat Feb-28-04 06:02 PM
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37. did he say "believe" or "don't believe" |
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:49 PM
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7. My head is going to explode |
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arghhhhhhhhh.....:argh:
Fortunately, I don't associate with fundies, and they are a relative minority where I live so I don't encounter this type of idiocy on a daily basis.
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Sat Feb-28-04 02:50 PM
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8. Stupid things I have said as a right wing Christian |
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* Eavesdropping on a conversation (while, for example, standing in a grocery store line) I'd hear someone say, "Oh, my god!" I would get in that person's face and say, "IS He your God?"
* "I used to live the homosexual lifestyle."
Etc. :eyes:
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Sat Feb-28-04 05:24 PM
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33. oh, my god!! I'm glad you're not one of them anymore! |
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Sat Feb-28-04 11:30 PM
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52. You & me both, Slink. ;) eom |
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:00 PM
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10. "It's ok to lie and cheat and still and kill as long as you are sorry... |
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about it, and accept Jesus into your heart you will go to Heaven" This line of thinking is what scares me the most about these whackos. I was raised catholic and was made to believe that God is up there keeping a scorecard on you. The card has two columns, "good" and "sin". When you meet your maker he tallies up the score. At least thats a bit of accountability. This "blank check" salvation scares the hell out of me.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:06 PM
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14. That's the way I was raised, too. |
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Personally, I like that way that ties into the idea of Karmic retribution.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:01 PM
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but I swear it did happen, and in church (which is probably even scarier)...it's not stupid, it's frightening. I was visiting a Missionary Baptist church in the MO Ozarks, can't remember the town any longer, back in the late 70's. The "minister" made part of his sermon about support of Anita Bryant's campaign to "stop the homosexuals", and it came across like he couldn't imagine any other viewpoints-it was a given that all people should stop them at all costs. At this point an old man stood up and said what a pity it was that the Supreme Court wouldn't let him bomb people's houses... Fun crowd.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:02 PM
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12. Overheard someone talking about a gay family member... |
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and implying he was "that way" because his father was in to child porn. :wtf:
The only things I could think to say or do would have resulted in getting fired and/or doing a prison stretch, so I just walked away....
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:05 PM
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Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 03:07 PM by myopic4141
My favorite is that God created good and man created evil. I have always wondered how man got the concept of evil without God putting it there in the first place.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:07 PM
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how can good exist without evil?
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:09 PM
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17. "Bush has accepted Jesus and is a good moral man" |
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these people are seriously deluded, a very common trait among the pious wackos.
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:18 PM
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18. AIDs is God's Judgement on gays |
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Uh - huh, and Alzheimer's is God's Judgement on Reagan?
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:29 PM
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20. Haha! I'll have to remember that one! n/t |
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Sat Feb-28-04 03:23 PM
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19. I know one who's always praying about things... |
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"Well, I wasn't sure if I should buy the red sweater so I prayed about it."
"We couldn't decide whether to send out for pizza or Chinese food so I prayed about it."
"Oh, you have a cold? I'll pray for you."
I just want to slap her silly.
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Sat Feb-28-04 04:11 PM
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28. Ugh. I hate simple helpless twits who can't think for themselves. |
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A photo lab once processed my b&w film (with once in a lifetime shots) through their color machine and the negs were blank. I was so upset, I almost started to cry. The clerk said, "Would you like to pray?" "No", I said, "I want my g-d film back".
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Sat Feb-28-04 09:17 PM
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51. GOD I fucking hate that. |
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I used to work with this neurotic, fucked up chick at my old job-- EVERYTHING out of her mouth was "I'll pray for you."
I finally told her, "Don't you dare. I'll beat the shit out of you."
She thought I was joking, as I said it very sarcastically, but she never said it again. I think she was afraid to find out if I was kidding or not.
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I was on my knees putting the puter together when this RW idiot came up to me with a smug look on his face "Ah ha. So you have seen the light and are on your knees." Silly me thought he was joking, so i said no, im down on all fours because i misplaced my knee caps somewhere. He told me i would burn in hell and stormed away. Hasnt said a word to me since - gee i miss his stimulating conversations
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Good one! What a sore head, too.
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Sat Feb-28-04 04:06 PM
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27. This from anti abortion, anti vasectomy friend of mine... |
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Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 04:12 PM by MrsGrumpy
Upon hearing of my husband's vasectomy:
"Couldn't he have just been okay with birth control?"
Heck, I thought birth control was against the rules as well. I guess it's a pick and choose sort of thing...:shrug:
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Sat Feb-28-04 06:33 PM
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39. Isn't a vasectomy a form of birth control? |
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I mean, he didn't do it for fun did he?
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He was telling me about how bad welfare was, and giving me an example of how his church's food pantry worked and how he went to this woman's house with $100 worth of groceries and she was very grateful. They prayed together and then he left, and before he could get in the car and leave she was already on the corner selling the groceries and the woman just looked at him and sneered. That made him so angry that he just decided that all people on welfare are out to work the system, and they don't deserve the help.
My response: Was this the only person who you helped out in the food bank?
Him: No.
Me: Did you ever see anyone else do the same thing?
Him: No.
Me: So what about all those other people you helped who really needed it?
Him: ????
Me: You helped all these people in their time of need, and yet all you can focus on is the one bad apple who abused your charity?
Him: ?!?
Me: Why did you do it? To make yourself feel better, or because it is the right, Christian thing to do: the sort of thing that Jesus would do?
Him: Because it is the right thing to do.
Me: Then how did it become the wrong thing for you to do because one person abused your charity?
Him:?!?!?!
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Sat Feb-28-04 05:48 PM
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35. Why, he should've just turned the other cheek, now, shouldn't he. |
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Sat Feb-28-04 05:03 PM
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Ever notice that when those who pray to God for success and get success always gives God the credit; yet, when those who pray to God for success and get failure never blames God for the failure. Equally, those who pray to God are always asking for something for themselves, like greater strength, wisdom, or a way just to get through life. Apparently, they are not satisfied with what God gave them or feel that God somehow cheated them out of a greater share. Just maybe, they do not have as much faith in God's judgment as they profess.
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Sat Feb-28-04 05:11 PM
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31. I've always wondered about that too. |
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Edited on Sat Feb-28-04 05:14 PM by camero
Think about it. If God is your friend, wouldn't it turn your friend off if you just kept bugging him for stuff?
Wouldn't your friend feel better if you asked him to help someone else. I must be a silly goose because I always thought that the bible was something that applied to everyone whether they believed or not.
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Sat Feb-28-04 05:22 PM
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32. "Killing people is not wrong" |
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Sat Feb-28-04 06:29 PM
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38. Your son died because Jesus needed him. |
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I wanted to vomit and cry at the same time.
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Sat Feb-28-04 09:09 PM
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I've heard similar things said. I am amazed, shocked and horrified at the same time.
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Sat Feb-28-04 07:12 PM
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41. One thing that really pisses me off |
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...is when there is some sort of disaster (airplane crash, whatever) and some people die and some people survive. There is always one survivor who says "I want to thank God for saving my life." Yeah, there's some glowing diety in the sky who just looked down and said, "Ya know, I'm having a slow day, so I think I'll cause an airplane crash and kill off a handful of these shmucks but pick this guy out to live." What kind of a shriveled little brain combined with a superinflated sense of self importance do you have to have to think that you are the chosen being of some sort of omnipotent superheroish diety who lets children die? Give me a big f***ing break!
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I see tornado survivors on the TV news who say, "God saved me!" What, and He hates your neighbors? It's so irrational I could scream!
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Sat Feb-28-04 08:39 PM
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47. Yeah... god saved them.... to make their life worse |
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I'm leaning towards the belief that hell is the life we all live here on earth. Heaven is when we all die.
I've been listening to the History Channel off and on most of the day today. It has been focusing on Christianity. They mentioned that there is nothing in the bible about a heaven or hell specifically. I don't recall if that was the whole bible or just the Old Testament.
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Sat Feb-28-04 07:44 PM
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42. Not a co-worker, but a fellow student back in college |
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I attended a Lutheran college, but 99% of my fellow students were sane, as are most Lutherans. This young woman was not.
Some students who were in the same sociology class were sitting in the lounge and talking about victimless crimes, and the topic of prostitution came up.
M, the fundamentalist student, declared that she was against prostitution, because the Bible said that if a man and woman had sex they were married in the eyes of God. Therefore, if a man had sex with a prostitute and later married someone else, both he and his wife would be guilty of adultery, he for marrying after having sex with a prostitute and she for marrying someone who was an adulterer. :crazy:
Nothing I have heard a fundamentalist say has topped that in the past thirty years.
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Sat Feb-28-04 08:42 PM
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48. What is the definition of adultery from the bible? |
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One definition found: An adulterer was a man who had illicit intercourse with a married or a betrothed woman, and such a woman was an adulteress.
And that having sex with each meant they were married in the eyes of God... I never heard of that before.
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Sat Feb-28-04 08:01 PM
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43. I would just stare at him blankly... |
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and say, "I'm hallucinating you, aren't I? What *ARE* they putting in the coffee here?"
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Sat Feb-28-04 09:13 PM
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50. There are wingnuts in uniform - Really |
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It surprised the fuck out of me, because believe or not, I usually don't run into many of them.
When you're in the military, you tend to see the world for the way it really is.
Just this week this Master Sergeant, with umpteen years in, told me that if Bush wasn't elected (sic) he would have gave up his career and separated from the Air Force before retirement time. He told me that he was a fundie before, btw.
I was so stupified that I didn't have a answer.
Usually if someone decides to get out, it's because that can make a better living on the outside, or they find out that the military really isn't for them, or it's time to retire.
But get out just because Gore becomes the president?
That's just plain dumb.
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Sat Feb-28-04 11:40 PM
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53. Plus, it's a refutationof his own principles. |
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After all, shouldn't he have ETS'ed when Bill Clinton was elected? Just asking. B-)
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54. I was at a loss for words to ask him. |
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Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 12:51 AM by MrScorpio
But, if the subject comes up again, you bet I will.
This guy is a fundie, but he's not one of those in your face kinda guys.
I can tell that he gets uncomfortable by the way he shifts around and stays mute whenever I start mentioning something un-fundie-like.
I don't want to confront this guy directly because I really don't know him and he outranks me.
I don't need that kind of aggravation.
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