Ever get flamed in one of the GD's and then worry that nobody in here wants to talk to you anymore?

[CreekDog]

:shrug:

[Midlodemocrat]

1. Nope. What did you do silly man?

[CreekDog]

4. oh, it was about a week ago

i almost don't want to get into what post it was, but i think half of DU ended up responding to it.

[Midlodemocrat]

6. Did you get your ass handed to you?

Cuz my DU experience is that when you get your ass handed to you by numerous posters, you're in the wrong. :shrug:

[CreekDog]

9. there weren't that many actually

but what they said, well, wow.

[JVS]

23. Not when one is The Proclaimer of Uncomfortable Truth™

[Parche]

2. did you get ruff ruff'd up?

:shrug: :hi:

[CreekDog]

5. yeah.

you know how that goes. ;) :hug:

[BarenakedLady]

3. No

[madinmaryland]

7. I assume you went over to GD:Palin and bitched about everyone posting

about Sarah Palin!!!

:rofl:

[CreekDog]

10. uh

CLOSE! :rofl:

it was of that genre of post.

i dare not rehash it.

it was more about the caricature i was made out to be that had me shaking my head though nobody who did that actually quoted what i had said, rather, they repeated to everyone else what they thought i *meant*.

[martymar64]

43. You didn't thank God that it passed, did you?

:dunce:

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. No, I'm comfortable with the concept that no one wants to talk with me anymore.

Bangin' that Impeachment hammer too long, have I been.

[CreekDog]

11. i'm surprised that people i used to argue with rather heatedly have become some of my favorites

keep that in mind.

part of it is that reading DU opens me to new ideas.

part of it is that you see someone posting enough, you find things in common with them and begin to appreciate them.

i'll bet that applies to your posts.

[Fire Walk With Me]

16. ...

:rofl:

[CreekDog]

18. well i don't know how to interpret your post!

:rofl:

[Tom Kitten]

12. I confess I deserved it

I told someone, I don't even know who, to fuck off last week, then I saw I got a reply. The response was mild but I just shouldn't do that, I felt guilty. Rarely I let my anger get the best of me, even though I have good reason to be sometimes (like why can't I find a job?)I know the original post was probably sarcastic but I just got tired of reading all the bullbaiting about various ethnic groups last week...

[TZ]

13. We all have posts we regret

To tell you the truth, CreekDog, I've always thought your non-Lounge posts were pretty thoughtful and well thought out. I must have missed that post you are thinking about but you know that I think very highly of you and I doubt there is much you can say that would alienate me..even if you have atrocious taste in music...:hug:
Really Creekdog...you are one of the rational ones here and we need you here. Don't get discouraged....

[CreekDog]

14. you're a sweetie

and right when you compliment me on my non-lounge posts, i go and do this:

:crazy:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7863715

[TZ]

15. If it makes you feel any better...

There are a certain group of people on this board who think I'm a nasty bully and probably friendless in real life (HA!)
The reality is I have little patience for fools and therefore will not hold back when I see deliberate idiocy...
In fact for a short period of time, a group of these posters came into the skeptics group with no other purpose but to flame me..It was quite interesting....

[CreekDog]

17. it's that frenzy that alarmed me

because the people that flamed me hardest didn't seem to be responding to what i'd written but instead what others had written about me.

i mean it goes with the territory. i was okay with being held accountable for what i actually said, but not what others attributed to me (that i never said or meant).

and i don't think that of you. i don't really care what people who flame me think of me, but i do care that others believe what those people say if it's not true. but then there's not much i can do about that anyway.

:hug:

i still think Canadians are better at comedy than they are at music (except for Joni Mitchell).

[Gormy Cuss]

19. Ignored

:P

[CreekDog]

20. that's it! i'm coming over there.

well, maybe...i hate that damned tunnel. :banghead:

[enigmatic]

21. no n/t

[JVS]

22. Dude, if you think what you said got you flamed, try it when you have a more controversial position.

People vented their spleens at you, but at you were speaking out against something that is definitely wrong in the books of most. If you want to really see them go at you, criticize the Dalai Lama.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

24. The Dalai Lama certainly is no friend to me

He's a hypocrite and a homophobe.

[arcadian]

26. Not trying to start anything...

But how is the Dalai Lama a hypocrite and a homophobe? I think his foundational teachings are good but the idea of a god king and an animist theocracy rub me the wrong way.

[LostinVA]

32. She stated why: he's a homophobe -- he makes no bones about it

Those ideas and beliefs go directly against his supposed teachings -- and the teachings of the original Buddha, Siddhartha.

And, I agree with you about the "God King" part. I have studied alot on Buddhism, and I practice Zen Meditation. I would call myself a "half Zen Buddhist."

[arcadian]

35. This is the first I have ever heard of this.

Not that I don't believe you and Haruka, but if you could provide citation for that, I would like to read it. Thanks.

:hi:

[LostinVA]

37. There's a zillion cites, but here's just a few -- from 1993-2008

I want to say that Buddhism in general is usually gay inclusive, especially in Zen Buddhism. The Dali Lama seems to have a hangup on this issue, and it's a very important issue to have a hangup about. And, what bothers me and Haruka, is that he is THE "face" of Buddhism in the World. He could have so much influence in this matter.

His teachings are almost exactly the same as the Catholic Church's/Pope's, yet the DL is rarely condemned on here.

************************************************


The Dalai Lama was interviewed by CBC News at the time of his visit to Canada during 2007-NOV. Near the end of his interview he was asked whether Buddhism condones love between two men or two women. He replied that Buddhists reject this. Genuine Buddhist practitioners, like Christians, condemn same-sex behavior as sexual misconduct. "So, not permissible, not allowed." 11
'Westerners are too self-absorbed'
Telegraph ^ | 4/1/2006 | Alice Thompson
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 5:11:41 PM by Unam Sanctam
...
Although he is known for his tolerant, humane views, he is a surprisingly harsh critic of homosexuality. If you are a Buddhist, he says, it is wrong. "Full stop.
No way round it.
"A gay couple came to see me, seeking my support and blessing. I had to explain our teachings. Another lady introduced another woman as her wife - astonishing. It is the same with a husband and wife using certain sexual practices. Using the other two holes is wrong."
At this point, he looks across at his interpreter - who seems mainly redundant - to check that he has been using the right English words to discuss this delicate matter. The interpreter gives a barely perceptible nod.
"A Western friend asked me what harm could there be between consenting adults having oral sex, if they enjoyed it," the Dalai Lama continues, warming to his theme. "But the purpose of sex is reproduction, according to Buddhism. The other holes don't create life. I don't mind - but I can't condone this way of life."
...

Homosexuality in Vajrayana/Tibetan Buddhism
In a 1997 interview, the Dalai Lama (the leader of Tibetan Buddhism and a widely-respected spiritual figure) was asked about homosexuality. He did not offer any strong answer either way, but noted that all monks are expected to refrain from sex. For laypeople, he commented that the purpose of sex in general is for procreation, so homosexual acts do seem a bit unnatural. He said that sexual desires in themselves are natural, perhaps including homosexual desires, but that one should not try to increase those desires or indulge them without self-control. <4>
In a 1993 talk given in Seattle, the Dalai Lama said:
nature arranged male and female organs "in such a manner that is very suitable... Same-sex organs cannot manage well." But he stopped short of condemning homosexual relationships altogether, saying if two people agree to enter a relationship that is not sexually abusive, "then I don't know. It's difficult to say." <5>
The Dalai Lama was more specific in a meeting with Buddhist leaders and human rights activists in San Francisco in 1997, where he commented that all forms of sex other than penile-vaginal sex are prohibited for Buddhists, whether between heterosexuals or homosexuals. At a press conference the day before the meeting, he said, "From a Buddhist point of view, is generally considered sexual misconduct." But he did note that this rule is for Buddhists, and from society's viewpoint, homosexual relationships can be "of mutual benefit, enjoyable, and harmless." <6>
The Dalai Lama is well known for his activism for human rights, and this specifically includes equal rights for gays. According to an Office of Tibet spokeman, "His Holiness opposes violence and discrimination based on sexual orientation. He urges respect, tolerance, compassion, and the full recognition of human rights for all." <6>
References
1. A. L. De Silva, "Homosexuality and Theravada Buddhism." BuddhaNet's Magazine Articles, accessed 2005.
2. Peter A. Jackson, "Thai Buddhist accounts of male homosexuality and AIDS in the 1980s ." Australian Journal of Anthropology, December 1995.
3. Kerry Trembath, "Buddhism and Homosexuality." Enabling.org, accessed 2005.
4. "On Homosexuality and Sex in General." Interview with the Dalai Lama, World Tibet Network News, Aug. 27, 1997.
5. "A Lesson on Life, Happiness." Dalai Lama's speech to Seattle crowd, World Tibet Network News, Jul. 1, 1993.
6. Dennis Conkin, "Dalai Lama urges 'respect, compassion, and full human rights for all,' including gays." Bay Area Reporter, San Francisco, Jun. 19, 1997.
7. Mettanando Bhikkhu, "Will Buddhists allow gay marriage?" Buddhist View International, Jul. 25, 2005.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.religionfacts.com/homosexuality/buddhism.htm&ei=j7odSZviFKSueoiDuLIG&usg=AFQjCNFI2kAfagzyNS1K5Wp0AN6BV7OcLg

http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=22,1708,0,0,1,0

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/23/1064082990875.html

http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1977

[arcadian]

38. This is distressing to me.

But not surprising. Surprising at first, then I thought about it. The Dalai Lama has led a largely monastic life, besides his tours and lectures. I guess we are also to assume that he is celibate. I find it hard to believe that ANYONE could go their whole life without a sexual encounter, but I suppose it's possible. Anyway, such a person would be the last person to ask about human sexuality, at least in my opinion. The guy is enlightened in many ways but this points out that he is woefully ignorant in others. If he were the true enlightened "spirit" that he purports to be then even he would recognize this. Thanks for the info.

[LostinVA]

39. It was to me, too, when I heard him say it in the 1990's

I had admired him so much!

Agreed -- it's like asking a celibate, unmarried priest for marriage counseling!

[JVS]

40. My criticism of him has generally centered on theocratic rule, but I'll have to remember that.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

46. Glad to be of service

And, I see that my post was successful, in other ways.

[MrCoffee]

25. Yes, but only because the mods move my flamewars from GD to here

the mods have an odd sense of humor.

[Left Is Write]

27. No.

[Bake]

28. Did someone say something?

:rofl:

Bake

[Tommy_Carcetti]

29. What happens in GD and GD:P stays in GD and GD:P

I happen to know there are plenty of idiotic assholes in the Lounge who I despise with every fiber of my being, but here it's all fun and games.


Just kidding, y'all. Seriously.

[Redstone]

30. Nah.

Redstone

[QueenOfCalifornia]

31. I for one

never want to talk to you again.

And I didn't even see your "mistake."

:rofl:

I am quite certain that about 1/4 of the DU do not understand my sarcasm - They are the same people who have to have the "sarcasm" smiley or they think the worst. A couple of them have qualified for my Ignore list.

The average memory of most of the people here is about one day. Unless you said something so outrageous and so amazingly insane you will be churned through to the other side of the mill and no one will remember that OP.

[Symarip]

41. Sarcasm?

On the interwebz? Who knew?!

[DU GrovelBot]

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34. Hey look Creekdog...Grovelbot still loves you!

:rofl:

[CreekDog]

42. he has no shame

he posted on a "Nice post Hitler!" thread. :hide:

[kick-ass-bob]

36. No. I only get flamed by idiots.

:D

[kimmerspixelated]

44. I get flamed more,

When I poke into places I don't really need to be..Such as that crazy Skeptical Cave. Dang! Those folks sure think a lot of themselves! Whatever! The minute I walk in, the vibes just about cover me with a deep,black soot. I have vowed to only post where the percentage of non-rude folks may cluster. Otherwise, I seem to absorb some of the bad karma! EWWW!

[TZ]

45. You have to be a SKEPTIC (ie scientifically knowledgable) to post in the Skeptics forum

plenty of other places for woos to post.
Maybe you should follow Creegdog's example. He posts in the group without a single problem..hmmmm

[Haole Girl]

47. Not really

Because most people don't want to talk to me anyway.

[JuniperLea]

48. Oh hell no

I'm a veteran of the message board psychic wars... I've been caught in flame wars so bad the whole board got closed down!

:rofl:

And you'll never guess why!

:rofl:

Because we were discussing...

:rofl:

wait for it... wait for it...

:rofl:

POLITICS!!!

hahahhahhahhhahhahhahhahhaaaa

[La Lioness Priyanka]

49. NOPE. there are about 20 du' ers i care about and i am sure all of them adore me