Official Obama is the ANTI CHRIST THREAD

[elshiva]

Do you have family members who seriously believe that Obama is the Anti-christ? What is their reasoning?

[Aristus]

1. My in-laws.

"It's right there in the Bible!"

:eyes:


Pointing to the Bible is supposed to eliminate the possibility of debate on the subject.


P.S.: My in-laws are not terribly bright...

[elshiva]

2. Where in the Bible, though?

[SPKrazy]

4. Revelations

it says Barack Obama is the Antichrist there silly :P

[elshiva]

7. Heehee, where in Revelations?

[Zuni]

12. wow. I must have forgotten that passage

[Aristus]

8. Oh, they insist it's in Revelation. But they never point to anything specific.

All their twisted ideas come from charlatans like Pat Robertson and Hal Lindsey, not the Bible.

[elshiva]

14. Ah HA! But Tim LaHaye, said that Obama is NOT the Anti-Christ, SO THERE!

;) Tim LaHaye, the "prophecy expert" of "The Left Behind" Series, said that Obama is not the anti-christ because the Anti-Christ MUST COME FROM EUROPE. I guess he doesn't want to look foolish, because the Left Behind Anti-Christ is a Romanian.

[Zuni]

15. did anyone mention to them

that Revelations never mentions "the antichrist"?

it mentions two beasts, from the sea and from the land that resemble the Roman Emperor and the high priest of the emperor worship cult.

The word "antichrist" is only found in the epistles of John, and it does not refer to one man, but many who deny Christ.

[elshiva]

21. Thank you. I know about this because I was a religious studies

major in college. I think the problem is that the folks who believe Obama is the anti-christ don't actually read the Bible or take some passages out of context. Also, they don't hold to modern interpretations. It dates back to the 19th century interpretations of Dispensationalism. One of the fallacies of Dispensationalism is that Revelations is COMPLETELY about the future, but it's actually mostly about first century CE persecutions of christians.

[SPKrazy]

3. No, but I've met a few people that do

"he will rise from the east" Hawaii I guess?

that he's "Muslim"

that he's anything but white I think is what it really is about, code R for racism

[elshiva]

6. "He will rise from the east" equals Hawaii?

HUH?

[pitohui]

13. yeah i always fly west to get to HNL what am i missing? oh i know, the part where the world is ROUND

stupid people are funny, aren't they? :-)

[SPKrazy]

28. he was born in Hawaii

one person who claimed he is the antichrist said he will rise from the east. I was being facetious. lol

[elshiva]

32. I know!

:hug: I thought it was funny. :)

[DarkTirade]

5. Thank the gods, no. My family is sane. And intelligent.

I never realized how good I had it until I got to college and started talking to other people my age about their families.

[elshiva]

10. Yes, mine, too.

Most of my family is sane. My cousin and second cousins, though, voted for McCain, but I don't think they believe Obama is the anti-christ. They aren't fundie Christians.

[pitohui]

9. no, are you kidding? the antichrist slot is already filled by ME!

:-)

pretty sure from discussion all of my family members either voted obama or (the most racist ones) abstained from voting this year

[Shell Beau]

11. My aunt told me today that Obama was a sock monkey.

She said y'all call Bush a chimp. Obama looks like a sock monkey. :eyes:

[elshiva]

16. She made a racist comment there.

:(

[Shell Beau]

19. She even went so far as to google a picture of a sock monkey

to show me the similarities. Sometimes I wonder how we have some of the same blood going through us.

[texanwitch]

17. I wonder how many people here know what a sock monkey looks like.

My Grandmother had one.

[Shell Beau]

20. I had one!!

I thought everyone knew what they were. Maybe not though.

[texanwitch]

25. Is it a southern thing.

They were made from a certain brand of sock, I think.

[Shell Beau]

27. Yeah!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sock_monkey


Who knew the sock monkey had so much history?

I wish I still had mine. It was probably from the 70's since that is when I was born, and I think that is when it was given to me.

[elshiva]

33. I've seen sock monkeys.

They're cute. :) But, I do NOT think that Obama looks like one.

[Shell Beau]

36. Well I don't either. My aunt was definitely reaching.

I don't feel like she is racist, but she did grow up in the south in a crazy time. This is my mom's sis and I know my mom isn't racist, so I want to believe that my aunt isn't either. That is all I know. I always want to see the best in people. But I am not a naive gal either.

[elshiva]

37. I always want to see the best in people, too.

That's why I said it was a RACIST COMMENT. I don't know your aunt, so I can't judge her. However, that is not a COMMENT that I can defend in anyway.

No one's perfect.

[Shell Beau]

38. I told her she should be ashamed. I can't defend that comment either.

Nor do I want to even try.

[elshiva]

39. Good, you have more courage than I would in that situation.

:hug:

[NoSheep]

18. Reasoning?

[elshiva]

22. There isn't any reasoning with such people.

The "Beast" or "Anti-Christ" is a terrible creature who persecutes christians. It does the whole term a disservice to compare Obama to the Anti-Christ.

I'm an atheist, but I can give the Bible some credit on this fact. An antichrist is not a liberal or a conservative, he/she is a cruel dictator.

[Shell Beau]

23. What has Obama done to even be considered such.

Where is her "logic" here? What does she back this up with?

[elshiva]

24. There isn't much logic, except for the old

"liberalism is really satanism" idea. Such an idea is not biblical, it's just based on prejudice.

[RandomThoughts]

30. It is the tactics of deception.

It is a meme being promoted to be used in 2016 as a whisper campaign. That is why their is all the fictional discussion of his birth certificate. His Hawaii birth proves he is not, within the belief system of many Christians.

It is deception and fear being peddled by the real darkside of the world. They are perpetuating it to fool many who want to believe in the Love of God, but believe in fear instead.

This is also why they also try to make him look like a messiah figure. To promote that meme.

When I voted I wore blue. The Republican behind the voting stand said to me that I was signing away my life and even slyly slipped in some references to Revelations.

This was my response while at the front of the voting line signing in.
"My vote for political office is not my soul, it is just who I vote for, and I believe in God Almighty through Jesus Christ.

Mr. Obama and many other people are just people I vote for, and people I see as trying to live within the teachings of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who died 2000 years ago, and rose again 3 days later."

I wanted to continue on about all the people that by their logic are responsible for the years 2000-2008 but left it alone, and just voted.

[Shell Beau]

34. I think the people who are most scared of being deceived by the

Anti-Christ will be the very ones deceived. I am not bowing down and worshipping Obama. I haven't seen him perform Christ-like miracles.

I think repubs are not only pissed off they lost, they are also pissed off he is black and I really believe that. I don't believe repubs are racist (at least not all of them), but I am being real here. It scares them.

[Tom Kitten]

26. In a word

No. I'm pretty much the only liberal in my immediate family, but my kin ain't stupid...don't know about the cousins back East except that they're a rather incurious bunch and as a result don't know or frankly care what they think!

[FloridaJudy]

29. There appear to be a few posters

In GD/P who hold that opinion.

I have a feeling that somewhere a quarry is about to get a very large order.

edited for typos

[Shell Beau]

31. Really? That he is the Anti-Christ? And they are still here?

Just another reason I stay away from there.

[Sebastian Doyle]

35. Get back to me on Friday about that.

I'm not sure who is all showing up for Thanksgiving, but there might be a few Fundie types who might buy into that shit.