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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:40 AM
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MrLara's passive-aggressive argument about the toilet seat.
He says it "isn't fair" that he has to leave the seat down for me after he uses the toilet, so he makes a conscious effort to drop the seat AND the lid down so that I will have to lift the lid up to use the toilet, thereby somehow evening the score, effort-wise.

Wtf?

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:42 AM
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1. I have a wife and three daughters - the seat is ALWAYS down on ALL toilets.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:44 AM
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2. I was just amazed that he thought it through that much.
It's as though he harbors some deep resentment about having to raise and lower the toilet seat.

:P
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:51 AM
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9. Half the time I just sit down ;}
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:52 AM
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12. I've been telling him he should do that!
He's so bothered by the idea; I don't understand why!

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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:16 AM
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18. Oh, probably because of that old song - "Do your balls hang low, do they wobble to and fro..."
High water tickles ;}
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:44 AM
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3. In my house, the lids are always down on toilets not currently in use.
There's a lid on it for a reason. I don't want to look into the yawning opening of a toilet, so the lids are down.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:45 AM
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4. Twice, I have sat down on the bowl.
It's really cold and that is really nasty!

x(
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:55 PM
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37. We try to do that too
but it's because we have two cats, one of whom is not particularly intelligent and/or graceful. ;)

(We have a dog, too, but she's never tried to drink out of the toilet...as far as I know, anyway.) :shrug:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 06:57 PM
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53. That's our lid-down reason too - at least one of our cats lacks the brains
and agility to pull his head out of a toilet...
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 04:01 PM
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47. I wouldn't leave the lids down
'cause then I'd have to fill the dog's water bowl more often.

too much work.


:hi:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:49 AM
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5. I have my wife trained also to deal with both the seat and lid down.
:evilgrin:

Well, I wouldn't want the cats to get used to drinking toilet water!!!
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:48 AM
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23. Similar situation here.
If that lid is not down, the dog will be drinking from the toilet, guaranteed.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:49 AM
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6. Whatever. The important thing is that he doesn't put the toliet seat
in the oven with the pizza rolls. That would be bad.


MrLara seems to be having issues. :)
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:49 AM
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7. In our house, everybody is responsible for raising or lowering the seat,
depending on their personal needs. Seems fair and we haven't divorced over it yet. :D
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:52 AM
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13. Truly each person is their own toilet happiness' smith.
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 10:52 AM by JVS
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:49 AM
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8. You asked! IMHO, a gentleman would want a lady's hands not to touch a toilet part any more than
needed!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:51 AM
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10. I think DIY is the best policy on toilet seats.
The bathroom should be a place of happiness, not one where you worry about pleasing others or worry about getting your butt wet. The only way to be sure never to end up the victim of a forgetful accident is to move it yourself.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:52 AM
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11. I know the lid is really heavy and everything...
...but why have one if you don't use it? The lid keeps stuff from getting knocked into the toilet.

You don't hear men making a big deal about accidentally pissing all over the seat and therefore insisting it stay up. So what is the big deal with this whole toilet seat thing anyway? Just check before you sit is all. Men sometimes have to sit and I always check to see where I'm landing.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:57 AM
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14. The lid is always down in my apartment.
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 10:57 AM by redqueen
The rule is that you should put it down before you flush.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 10:58 AM
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15. I'm a neatnik. The lid stays down because it looks better.
But I'm surprised at guests who leave the lid and seat up in someone else's home.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:05 AM
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16. It has never been a big deal around my house. In fact, many years ago
I had an old dog who thought the toilet was her personal, never-ending water bowl, but she couldn't access it if the seat was down, so I always encouraged the kids to leave it up. Otherwise, the dog would sit beside the stool and bark until someone came in to lift if for her.

I live by myself now, so it is always in the down position.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:06 AM
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17. I swear my husband, one of our guy friends and I just had this
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 11:07 AM by Shell Beau
argument last night. I need the toilet seat down 100% of the time. He only needs it up 50% of the time. It only makes sense. And if they had a little better aim, they wouldn't need it up at all. Not to mention the fact that they can whip it out at any time and pee so easily. I almost fell in the toilet last night, and my husband almost got an ass whoopin!
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:03 PM
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26. I also feel that he shouldn't decry the "inconvenience" of having to put the seat down,
when I have submitted to the "inconvenience" of being responsible for cleaning the toilet every week for the last twelve years!
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:29 PM
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34. Exactly!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:19 AM
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19. Seat's down in my house...lid, too.
Ever drop your toothbrush in the toilet? You bottle of expensive prescription pills?

The lid should be left down after anyone uses it. Sheesh!

I'm still strong enough to lift the lid and seat to pee. I'm not so busy that I can't put them both down before I wash my hands.

That's how my Mom taught me.
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buzzycrumbhunger Donating Member (793 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:22 AM
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20. My son wrote a treatise on this very thing
I wish I could find it; it was apparently so brilliant that he'd convinced almost every guy in the forum to close the lid when done. (Yes, I was proud.) His capper was the argument that everyone would have to work equally to use the thing.

I am of the school of thought that there is a lid for a reason. It keeps kids, pets, toiletries, and the odd electrical appliance out, and ruins the feng shui of the place if it's left open.

I say if someone's going to ignore logic and get passive-aggressive about it, you might want to counter with a poufy toilet lid cover so he has to hold it open to pee.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:24 AM
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21. I'd buy a lock, install it on the bathroom door, then make him
go outside until he was more civilized. And, yes, men DO love me even though I am strict with them. :evilgrin:
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:26 AM
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22. I'm afraid I'm with MrLara here
Not that seats should be up - that's just boorish and nasty - but that lids should be down.
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Resuscitated Ethics Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:17 PM
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24. Toilet entirely closed except when using
There is no upper hand in the bathroom. Only potential discomfort if not reached in time. Any trespass will involve cleanliness, not lid position. Less evaporation waste that way too.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:24 PM
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25. The toilet lid should always be closed, unless in use.
Pets and objects could fall inside.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:33 PM
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27. I always leave it down as a courtesy, but I can't disagree with what a friend tells his wife
"I don't bitch about having to put it up. Don't you bitch about having to put it down."
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:38 PM
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28. It's pretty simple.
Before a person uses the toilet they should look to see if the seat is up or down. Men spend their whole lives doing it. Women can too.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:42 PM
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29. I always close the lid, too. To thwart potentially thirsty dogs.
:rofl:

Bake
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:44 PM
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30. I can understand where that can be an issue.
As for me as long as the crapper's clean and the one who emptied the tp roll puts a new one on I'm good to go.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 01:51 PM
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31. That's the way to do it - cover the thing entirely.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:02 PM
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32. I just leave it alone as I have a reasonably good aim
It also gives the fairer sex an added incentive to leave the lid up.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:29 PM
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33. Sounds fair to me. No one wants to look in a toilet bowl anyway.
I mean, isn't the argument that women might accidentally sit in the bowl in the middle of the night? Problem solved.

I always close the lid, mostly because I used to have a cat who leaped without looking.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:46 PM
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35. The toilet lid should be down for a number of good reasons.
Certainly so things do not fall in or have pets get into the toilet, but if the lid is up when the toilet is flushed then the water in the bowl is atomized and away that spray goes. Have your toothbrush hanging anywhere near the toilet and you do not close the lid when flushing? Give it a thought. Those atomized water droplets from the toilet bowl do a-flying.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:31 PM
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52. Precisely.
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 05:31 PM by redqueen
Even if the toothbrush isn't close by... there's the doorknob and all sorts of other stuff to worry about.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:53 PM
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36. In my house, the lid is always down when not in use. It looks nicer, imo. n/t
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:23 PM
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43. That always made me think someone was trying to hide something
If I saw a toilet with the lid down I'd be scared to use it. Just something with me and closed toilets its like someone clogged the toilet up all nasty and then closed the lid to hide what they did.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 02:57 PM
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38. That's actually more healthy if the lid is down before the toilet is flushed
keeps the, um, germs from being sprayed all over the bathroom & landing on your toothbrush (among other things).

dg
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:05 PM
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39. Fall victim to Saranwrap and you will forever more look
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 03:17 PM by One_Life_To_Give
When it's pulled tight you have to look real good or there is going to be a real mess.

(and whenever I needed to keep someone in line the mere mention thata some poor girl might learn who perpetrated said prank...)

edit spelling
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:13 PM
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40. Superglue the lid to the base so he can't slam it down
Problem solved.

If he gets angry, superglue the seat down so he can't lift it. This would just be for fun. :D
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:21 PM
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41. I think if you fall in the toilet without checking then its your own fault.
Seriously how do you fall into the toilet? Who doesnt look at the toilet before sitting down to make sure nothing is in there.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:23 PM
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42. Middle-of-the-night blurry-eye pee trips!
It can happen!
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:23 PM
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44. Lies!
I get up at 6 am to crap and I check to see what I am sitting in! You can do it to!
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:25 PM
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45. I was in a hurry to pee!
It wasn't like my cheeks touched the water- the bowl was just really cold and my butt dipped down a bit. It was very startling and gross!

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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 03:59 PM
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46. Take a stand against the toilet nazis!
Pee in the sink.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:02 PM
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48. You don't have your toilet accessorized, do you?
Edited on Tue Feb-03-09 05:02 PM by Career Prole
My wife always buys those color-coordinated bathroom beautification kits (for lack of a better name) which come with a fuzzy bathmat, a fuzzy special contour-hugging toilet mat, and my personal bête noire, the fuzzy toilet bonnets. The toilet sports one of these on the tank lid, and another on the seat lid. The combination of the two make it damned near impossible to raise the lid and seat and have them stay up for a full pee. I either have to go semi-bent over and hold the seat up or take my chances that one or both won't come crashing down mid-tinkle. I can't even tell you how many times that's happened.
:eyes:

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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:17 PM
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49. Just me and my mother here, but lids stay down because my pets consider it their water bowl.
Yuk!
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:24 PM
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50. I have three boys and am so outnumbered
that it's just a non-issue at this point. I suppose in the grand scheme of things it's not a battle I choose to pick with either my husband or my boys. :shrug:
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 05:26 PM
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51. That's why I have my own bathroom!
I just avoid the whole thing. :)
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raptor_rider Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 07:39 PM
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54. Lid down in our home
Have two cats and two toddlers under 3. Who knows what they would put in there!
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