Post something you DON'T like about Hawaii.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

I don't like the fact that I've never been there.

I also don't like the fact that because of Hawaii, it ruins Florida's chances of being the greatest state in the country.

Other than that, all I can say to you Hawaiians is you lucky little bastards. Aloha!

[Droopy]

1. I want to be a Hawaiian trucker

I wonder if they have 18 wheelers in Hawaii. Seems like almost everything could be done with straight trucks except for maybe construction.

[Whoa_Nelly]

25. With your driver classification

You could be a tour bus driver and enjoy the beautiful beaches and landscapes.

Would be a nice trade off, one I would take. ;)

[MajorChode]

2. Sitting next to the latrines on the 9 hour plane ride to Hawaii

Definitely a bad idea. On a 9 hour plane ride, everyone on the plane will be taking a crap at some point. There is no ventilation to the outside.

[flvegan]

3. Sharks.

[GOPisEvil]

4. If you like going for long drives, you're screwn.

[arcadian]

33. Not true. Hawaii is bigger than RI, DE, CT, NJ, NH, and VT

The Big Island is bigger than RI and DE alone. It takes about 6 hours to drive all the way around the Big island.

[Frosty1]

42. Oahu is 120 miles around it.

[GOPisEvil]

45. Well, that's true. But I lived on Oahu for 3 years.

So, for me to take that long of a drive, I'd have to get to the Big Island.

Also, in RI or DE, I can keep driving once I get to PA, MD, MA, etc.

[arcadian]

51. True.

Did you get "rock fever" living on O'ahu?

[GOPisEvil]

56. I was a kid, so it wasn't too pronounced.

If I were an adult, it would drive me batty not to be able to just go.

[Inspired]

5. It's too far away and too expensive for me to visit.

[Shell Beau]

6. It is too far away.

[HopeHoops]

7. I don't like that I haven't been there.

[alsame]

8. Hot lava.

[GardeningGal]

9. I don't like how long it takes to get there! nt

[Tektonik]

10. Hawai'i isn't why Florida is not the greatest state in the country

:P

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. Unless the US annexes Belize...

...Hawaii will be the sole reason that the great Sunshine State of Florida will not be number one out of all of the United States.

It goes like this:

1. Hawaii
2. Florida
3. Maryland
4.-50. All those other states. Discuss amongst yourselves as to the order.

[Tektonik]

19. Sorry, Florida generally has horrible people and weather

[Tommy_Carcetti]

20. As I speak....

...it is currently 72 degrees and partly sunny. What's this you say about horrible weather?

As for horrible people, I can think of only one truly horrible person living in Florida:



The other 14,999,999 or so people are pretty much par for the course in terms ratio of crappy people per state.

[Tektonik]

22. Humidity, I live in San Diego, so my weather>Florida

Florida is filled with weird fucks, people robbing banks with pitchforks, etc.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

27. Humidity is the reason why Florida is filled with lush green vegetation...

....whereas southern California is mainly dusty brown (with shades of brown olive) and catching on fire every other week. Sorry, try again.

Oh, and did I mention you can swim in our oceans year round without a wetsuit?

Plus, having someone from California lecture people from another state about having weird people is like having Dick Cheney lecture someone else about ethical, responsible and open government. :P

[Tektonik]

34. I'd rather live in a concrete wasteland than Florida's mucky, moldy, awful air

Anyhow I live near the ocean, so the fires never really come close to me, we just get the smoke for a day or two depending on the winds :P

The area I live in is undoubtedly nicer than anywhere in Florida. Come visit Torrey Pines State Beach, La Jolla cove, the UCSD campus, the surrounding canyons, etc.

Sorry, Florida has the most fucked up people by far, hence the Germany or Florida game created by Adam Corolla. Nearly all messed up news stories come from Germany or Florida, here's an example of one of the quizzes http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=2572651116003749111

The people here are assholes who cannot drive (which I hear is worse in Florida), but at least they aren't all insane.

The only thing Florida has on CA is that it's not insanely expensive.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

40. Southern California is the smog capital of the country. Everybody knows that.

On the other hand, even in Florida's urban areas the air is rarely smoggy.

I'll see your Torrey Pines State Beach and raise you a Bahia Honda State Park and a Sanibel Island. Plus, you can actually swim at our beaches. Having a beach that you can't swim at without a wetsuit is about as useful as having an orange that you can't use for juice. Which, incidentially, is the definition of a California "orange"/wax table piece.

So, you live in the San Diego area, hmmm. I seem to remember something in recent years that happened....something weird.....Nike Tennis shoes.....black robes....male castration....Hale Bopp comet......



So what's this you say about Florida having the corner market on fucked up people now? :P

Nope, sorry. Hawaii I envy. California I don't.

That being said, I would still prefer California over some frozen hellhole up north.

[Tektonik]

44. It's not smoggy where I am, anyhow enjoy Clearwater

[Tommy_Carcetti]

46. Say hello to Charles Manson for me!

:P

[Tektonik]

47. Thank you for the last eight years!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

48. Thank you for 1981-1989....

....not to mention the veep who got in as a result from 1989-1993, and his son who wouldn't have been elected but for his dad's service!

:P

[Tektonik]

49. It isn't CA's fault, but I'll let you blame us if the Governator ever becomes pres

Anyhow the Reagan Library is BEAUTIFUL, and the Ronald Reagan Freeway happens to be my favorite. :hide:

[Tommy_Carcetti]

50. I'll make sure all of DU knows you said that.

:P

[MajorChode]

28. It gets Africa hot in the summer

As far as the people go, I doubt they are any more crappy people as you say, but there sure are a lot of old people out trying to drive on the roads. The last time I was there I saw many trying to use cell phones while driving. The only thing more scary than an old bastard trying to drive is an old bastard trying to drive while talking on a cell phone.

The laws tend to favor old people also. A good example is that bullshit no-fault insurance that keeps the car insurance rates for old fuckers relatively low at the expense of everyone else.

[Chan790]

58. 54'F and sunny without a cloud or breeze in Yonkers...

which is right where I like it and I can get on a Hudson Line Met-North to Grand Central and be in Manhattan in 10 minutes. There is more cool shit in Manhattan than in all of FL...oh and we have Brooklyn too.

:P

[Redstone]

11. It's expensive to go there, so I can't. And I would really, REALLY like to learn Hawiaan guitar

from people who grew up with it.

Redstone

[Arugula Latte]

12. Only one thing -- Spam

[KitchenWitch]

18. But Spam is a Minnesota product.

[Arugula Latte]

26. True, but it's most popular in Hawaii.

And, hey. It's Hawaii. What else am I going to dislike about it? (Well, the expense, I guess.) :)

Wikipedia:

The residents of the state of Hawaii and the territories of Guam and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) consume the most Spam per capita in the United States. ... In Hawaii, Spam is so popular it is sometimes dubbed "The Hawaiian Steak." <13> It is traditionally reheated (cooked), resulting in a different taste than Spam eaten by many Americans on the mainland, who may eat Spam cold.<14> One popular Spam dish in Hawaii is Spam musubi, in which cooked Spam is combined with rice and nori seaweed and classified as onigiri.<15>

Spam was introduced into the aforementioned areas, in addition to other islands in the Pacific such as Okinawa and the Philippine Islands, during the U.S. military occupation in World War II. Since fresh meat was difficult to get to the soldiers on the front, World War II saw the largest use of Spam. GIs started eating Spam for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. (Some soldiers referred to Spam as "ham that didn't pass its physical" and "meatloaf without basic training.")<16> Surpluses of Spam from the soldiers' supplies made their way into native diets. Consequently, Spam is a unique part of the history and effects of U.S. influence in the Pacific.<17>

The perception of Spam in Hawaii is very different from that on the mainland. Despite the large number of mainlanders who eat Spam, and the various recipes that have been made from it, Spam, along with most canned food, is often stigmatized on the mainland as "poor people food." In Hawaii, similar canned meat products such as Treet are referred to as "poor people Spam."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(food)

[KitchenWitch]

29. I knew that about Spam...

When I lived in Minnesota I visited the Spam Museum. It is a trip. I wish I still had my t-shirt.

I wonder if the popularity of Spam has something to do with the lack of land mass for livestock agriculture on the islands. So they ship canned "meat" products in, and the islanders love it.

[arcadian]

30. The largest privately owned cattle ranch is in Hawaii

Or used to be, Parker ranch.

[KitchenWitch]

32. HMMM I did not know that.

[arcadian]

36. it's weird though

Because everything is still shipped in, I think Parker used to sell exclusively to Japan because the market price was better or something. Eevrything is still expensive as hell, you would think you could get Ahi at a fairly reasonable price, nope. Avacadoes grow literally everywhere, can't get a decent price on them either. I think the mob has a stranglehold on the state. Gas shouldn't be that high price, but it's the highest in the nation just about. Gas has to be shipped to the U.S. as well and Hawaii is closer to Indonesia. So, go figure.

[KitchenWitch]

43. I know what you mean

Produce, which much of it is grown here in CA, is more expensive here than in Minnesota, where the produce is not grown and must be shipped.

Gas, much of which can be drilled and refined here, is more expensive here than in Minnesota.

The cost of living out here slays me.

[Ivan Sputnik]

13. I've heard that there are 19 species of cockroach in Hawaii

and that they're BIG.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

15. It's expensive to visit...and the HUMIDITY!

We stepped off our plane, and I felt as though someone had taken a hot, wet towel, and thrown it into my face.

Too damn humid!

I had not heard anyone talk about this, either...

Other than that, it's gorgeous!

:hi:

[arcadian]

31. The humidity is not that bad.

The windward sides of the islands tend to be more humid than the leeward side. All you have to do is go up in the mountains and it's cooler and more pleasant. Where did you fly into?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

53. It was just as I described it...freaking awful...

We flew into Kailua Kona, IIRC...

It was on the west side of the big island.

We were there for the eclipse in 1991, and did not go up into the mountains.

Also, it was July. I think the summers do tend to be a lot more humid...

[geek_sabre]

16. smoke monsters

[KitchenWitch]

17. I can't drive there from here.

[rug]

21. Pigs in a hole in the ground.

[MrScorpio]

23. It's too far away nt

[Sanity Claws]

24. I was just about to write the same thing

but you already got it out.
I really wish I could visit Hawaii more often.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

35. The "Howlie" thing.

Racism is racism. God made me white. Deal with it.

[arcadian]

37. Destruction of habitat for endemic birds, plants and insects.

They are unique species and found only in Hawaii and they are being wiped out by development.

[rucky]

38. too expensive.

that's the only downside I'm seeing.

[Dulcinea]

39. I haven't been there since 1995.

Hawaii is beautiful! I can't wait to visit again, but I have no idea when that will be. (sigh)

[barb162]

41. It's too far from here and it's expensive once you get there.

Otherwise, it's heaven.

[namahage]

52. The food is designed to reduce your lifespan by 10 years.

Exhibit A: The Loco Moco:



White rice, hamburger patty, fried egg, topped with brown gravy. Cholesterol cocktail.



Exhibit B: the Spam Musubi:



Favored by President Obama, this beauty consists of pan-fried Spam with rice and seaweed. Add an egg to make a one-handed breakfast that would make a McGriddle look like health food.


Exhibit C: Malasadas:



Originally a good way for Portuguese Catholics to get rid of "sinful" things like eggs, sugar, and butter, these beignet-like treats are fluffy orbs of greasy goodness.

[crimsonblue]

54. I don't like the fact that I'm not there. n/t

[CatholicEdHead]

55. The 8hr non-stop red eye flight to get back

[oedura]

57. Too many damned people there. (nt)

...

[yurbud]

59. it's too far away.

[yurbud]

60. You think Florida is SECOND? Are you a drug dealer, alligator, or Cuban refugee?

I think of Florida as California without mountains or smart people, and one of the pluses of global warming--the state will be gone once the ocean level rises about two inches. On the other hand, that would cause a traffic jam of old people in their wheelchair scooters fleeing back north.

[XemaSab]

61. It's my impression that the tourist areas are AlohaDisney

It's depressing that the islands have so much environmental destruction. :(

[Rabrrrrrr]

62. What I hate most is that I no longer live there.

:cry:

I miss you, my ohana!