LynneSin
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Sun Feb-08-09 11:25 PM
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Well there goes the Led Zeppelin tour |
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Why can't Robert Plant do the damn tour
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Sun Feb-08-09 11:31 PM
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No offense to Zep or its fans, but it's time to move on. The old music's cool, but so is the new music, too.
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Sun Feb-08-09 11:33 PM
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Edited on Sun Feb-08-09 11:36 PM by Whoa_Nelly
taking on LynneSin AND The Zep! :scared:
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Sun Feb-08-09 11:37 PM
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Look, I think LZ should do one last tour - so they don't get tired like Aerosmith, Rolling Stone or the Eagles
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Mon Feb-09-09 10:48 AM
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31. Well, one last hurrah just for LynneSin |
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After that, can we PLEASE kill off the tours by dinosaur rock bands who quit producing relevant music decades ago?
Yes, I'm talking to you The Eagles, The Who, Aerosmith, The Rolling Stones, etc.
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:52 PM
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46. You can't lump Led Zeppelin in with those other bands |
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Those other bands keep touring decades after their best music has been produced. I mean geez, I saw The Who's farewell tour in 1989 which I think was their 3rd one. After awhile it just gets annoying.
An occassional "Let's do one more for the fan" totally rocks but sometimes it's just overkill.
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:11 PM
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43. As much as I love Led Zeppelin, I kind of agree. |
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I mean it would be bad ass to see them live but on the other hand the tour could go either way.
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Sun Feb-08-09 11:37 PM
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3. ...guess they didn't offer enough money? |
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:01 AM
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11. They were offered half a billion dollars. |
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None of them need the money, it isn't about that.
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:05 AM
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5. Hey at least he showed up to receive his Grammy in his best undershirt and leather jacket |
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:14 AM
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6. I still have an amazing crush on him |
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But I'm pissed as hell at him too
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:17 AM
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7. I think he's cool as are Page and Jones |
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Weren't they touring as Page/Plant a few years back? For all intents and purposes a reconsituted Zep? I didn't go to it but I read they did a lot of Zep songs.
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Mon Feb-09-09 11:43 AM
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38. But that is who he is. It wouldn't have been right if he got all decked out. |
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:33 AM
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8. Because Robert Plant actually loves music, and wants to keep creating it. |
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Rather than doing a tribute band of himself, he wants to keep doing what he's always done--exploring, moving forward, creating. Face it, he's probably more tired of Zepplin than the rest of us are.
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Mon Feb-09-09 07:46 AM
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21. If LZ was touring over and over again I'd agree with you |
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To me bands like Aerosmith, Rolling Stone, Eagles and The Who have sullied their name but touring over and over again and not really putting out any quality new stuff (yes they are putting out records but none of them have been that good).
I would only want ONE tour - just one last one to thank all the fans for believing in Led Zeppelin for almost 30 years after John Bonham died. Because there really hasn't been a real LZ tour (sure Page & Plant did a tour about 10+ years ago but not as Led Zeppelin) the legend only grew even stronger because there hasn't been anything for so long.
They could easily do one tour, rake in a bunch of money and then be done. Ten years from now I would highly suspect that one of the original 3 members will probably not be with us anymore (they're all in their 60s right now). LZ is fortunate that they have a very suitable drummer with John Bonham's son Jason stepping in but to lose another member they really couldn't tour as LZ anymore. Unlike The Who, LZ feels their band members are irreplaceable.
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:44 AM
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9. Robert Plant is no longer qualified to sing Zeppelin songs. |
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His voice isn't what it used to be. I'd rather seen Page and Jones tour with Bohnam Jr, a new singer, and a few new songs mixed in with their old ones. That would be a better show.
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Mon Feb-09-09 07:41 AM
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20. Page took that into consideration when they did the benefit concert |
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and redid all the songs for that show with a lower vocal range for Plant.
I have a download of the O2 concert and the songs sounded amazing and worked with well with Plant's new vocal range
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:00 AM
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10. It was never going to happen. |
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Plant doesn't want to do it mainly because he simply can no longer sing the songs. Zeppelin died when Bonzo died. As much as I'd like to see it, it's probably better off this way.
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:21 AM
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12. I dunno -- the Ahmet Ertegun show sounded pretty damn good to me |
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It certainly would be better than what passes for the Rolling Stones these days.
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:28 AM
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13. The wear and tear of a full tour would kill his voice. |
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But I think it's more than that. Plant always says that it's best left as it was and without Bonham it's not Led Zeppelin. I don't believe his heart would be in it.
The last time I saw the Stones the first half of the show was really bad but the second half was great. Mick needs a warm up and a teleprompter. It's hard to believe you can forget the words to songs you've been singing for 40 years.
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:42 AM
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14. Plant said that, but then he toured with Jimmy Paige |
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Edited on Mon Feb-09-09 01:43 AM by OmahaBlueDog
and sang Led Zeppelin songs.. so it's not unreasonable for fans to assert he's sent some mixed messages on the topic of "letting things lie".
Also, the 1/2 billion dollar tour offer does not have to be the blueprint they go with. They could simply say "We're doing London, Paris, Dubai, New York, Chicago, LA, Tokyo, Melbourne, Bejing, and Moscow -- that's it" They could do 90,000 seat stadiums and charge $200 a pop for tix, or play 9,000 seat opera houses and charge $2,000 per ticket. I don't think any rules govern this.
However, he loves the gig with Allison Kraus. I think he enjoys the unlikeliness of the whole thing, and doing something new and different this late in his career.
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:51 AM
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15. I think he likes stringing everyone along. |
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Every couple years there are rumors of a Zeppelin tour but it never happens.
I think part of him is still pissed at Pagey for touring with Coverdale.
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Mon Feb-09-09 07:39 AM
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19. Page already redid the songs for the O2 concert to reflect Plants vocal changes |
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Plant can't hit those high notes like before so the songs were redone for that benefit concert that would work with how Plant sings today, much lower than before.
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Mon Feb-09-09 02:56 AM
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16. I like the combo with Allison Krause... |
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Robert Plant has always been very versatile and he has adapted to this genre beautifully.
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Mon Feb-09-09 03:02 AM
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Mon Feb-09-09 05:16 AM
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Led Zeppelin are kinda pissing me off right now.lol
It was only 3 or 4 weeks ago that the manager of the band released a statement to the press that there would be another tour, then Robert Plant's PR rep said "No,not happenin"....
There's been talk of a tour for at least 2 yrs now, and it's safe to say that it will never happen,because they can't seem to make up their minds.
But anything is possible.
Remember Sting? He said that hell would freeze over before he reunited with The Police,and did anther tour,and he eventually at those words.
The members of Led Zeppelin are rich,and old as dirt,so if they reunite,it would be for the luv of music.
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Mon Feb-09-09 10:02 AM
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28. "We shan't work together again." |
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Anyone who's seen Spinal Tap and falls for that line deserves the outrage.
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Mon Feb-09-09 07:50 AM
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22. i think once they all die |
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they can exhume their corpses and skeletal remains and have the original lineup on stage with their instruments rigged to their bones or decaying flesh while their greatest hits play on the P.A.
they can call it ded zeppelin or something.
i'm surprised music fans don't clamor for this for people like hendrix, lennon, so forth.
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:58 AM
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26. Didn't the Greatful Dead already do that? |
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their "Touch of Grey" video had a bunch of skeletons playing on stage...
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Mon Feb-09-09 10:49 AM
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32. Aren't the Stones already doing that? |
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:12 AM
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23. Artists Don't Look Back |
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I never would have put Plant on Bob Dylan level, but you gotta admit, he moves forward.
Did you get to be at a Plant/Krauss show? They played "Black Dog" and "When the Levee Breaks" and Marc Ribot played both on the banjo.
Even when Plant does go digging back to Zep, what he takes from it is some wrinkle we haven't seen before, like when he sampled.
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Mon Feb-09-09 10:06 AM
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29. Nope - I refused to go. He came to the area right when he announced NO WAY to LZ tour |
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I understand he had an album to promote this year but geez, he was such a dick about the tour that I refused to spend money on a concert promoting an album that personally I really don't like that much.
Don't get me wrong, "Raising Sands" is a very well done album but it just wasn't my cup of tea. Allison Krausse has zero appeal to me musically so why would I want to see bastardize versions of Led Zeppelin songs? I mean I've spent 20+ years listening to bastardize versions of LZ songs with the various LZ related tours I've seen but at least they were styled in ways that I would enjoy them.
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Mon Feb-09-09 10:43 AM
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How not wanting to do a Zep tour makes Robert Plant a dick.
IMO, the real dicks are the promoters and those who stand to make a LOT of money off a Zep reunion and keep putting rumors out there. Part of the reason they do it is to put pressure on Plant. "See! Look how excited everyone is. You gotta do it - can't disappoint the fans!" I think he's handled the whole thing pretty graciously, considering.
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Mon Feb-09-09 11:09 AM
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33. It's called the Fans - we helped build the legend of Led Zeppelin |
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you could toss us a bone by doing a reunion tour. Even if it was only 10-15 tour dates I'd be happy with that. I mean they won't even put out a DVD or CD of the O2 concert - I'm stuck with some shitty download that someone bootlegged at the show.
Yes, they would make a shitload of money but it is really about taking care of your fans who made you who are you are today. I have bought every shitty Robert Plant solo album (and some of them were really bad) and even bought the damn box set. This is how he treats us??!! :grr:
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:18 PM
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You even bought Shaken & Stirred?
In that case ...
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Mon Feb-09-09 01:48 PM
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45. Not only did I buy it when it first came out but |
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I also bought the box set which has another copy of it on there. Most of his stuff between Shaken & Stirred thru Dreamland was unforgettable at best (although Now and Zen was pretty decent). MIghty Rearranger was definately good stuff
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Mon Feb-09-09 11:56 AM
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39. oh yeah, I forgot Ribot was playing with them. |
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:20 PM
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Couldn't tell if that was him last night, probably not.
When they played here, Ribot did a solo show at a small club the next night. I was two feet away.
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:20 AM
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LZ can't be seen, but EVERY fucking year those Rolling Stones shitheads are out there on tour!
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:59 AM
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27. well, the Stones are better than Led Zep could ever hope to be. |
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Mon Feb-09-09 11:09 AM
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34. Are you kidding me? They're old, tired and haven't had a decent album in ages |
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You couldn't pay me to see the Stones in concert but I would have killed to be able to see them in concert sometime back in the 70s
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Mon Feb-09-09 11:28 AM
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36. well, Led Zep is old, tired, and hasn't had any album in ages! |
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and I did see the Stones in the '70s, in 1979 on the "Some Girls" tour.
It cost me $10.
I'm too cheap to pay ticket prices these days.
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Mon Feb-09-09 11:32 AM
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37. I saw the Stones in the Eighties |
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Its still my favorite concert. They still are very good live. They might be "old" but tired is not a word I would attach to thme
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Mon Feb-09-09 08:46 AM
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I was NOT looking forward to spending upwards of 500 bucks on a concert.
And I would've...
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Mon Feb-09-09 11:10 AM
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Mon Feb-09-09 12:01 PM
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40. It's a good thing when already-rich people do what they want, instead of yet another money grab. |
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I think it's awesome that Plant is doing something new instead of just cashing in on his old hits. If he *wanted* to do a Zep tour for kicks, that would be one thing, but if he doesn't, he doesn't.
I know how you feel though. I'd love to see a Tom Waits show, but he hates touring, and doesn't need the money, so he does infrequent, short tours that are impossible to get tickets for.
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