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Sun Feb-22-09 11:53 PM
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81st Academy Awards Post-Mortem: Suckdog Millionbore |
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God bless Hugh Jackman - he did the best he could with what he had. But the Oscars this year were a big fat mess. Why is it so hard to just read the names of the nominees and announce the winner? Or to display the names of those in the entertainment community who died over the past year without having to compete with either a live vocalist or cutesy camera edits?
And there wasn't a whole lot of drama at the Oscars, either, thanks to the cult of Slumdog Millionaire. And yes, I do want to see the film - it looks like a very poignant and jarring film at times. But this was all so much overkill.
At least Kate Winslet got her Oscar. As did Sean Penn, who will probably get another award from The Advocate for his acceptance speech. Even Wall-E grabbed an Oscar, bless his shiny metal ass. But were there any real surprises?
I dunno. Right now, I've got In Slaughter Natives in the CD player and a kitty in my lap who demands my full attention, so I leave the rest of the debate to you.
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:53 PM
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:53 PM
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2. I actually loved the way they did it, with the past winners. |
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But personal preference I guess.
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:54 PM
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3. Yes, that was kinda cool. |
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Mon Feb-23-09 01:32 AM
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Slumdog winning everything got to be a little old, though.
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Mon Feb-23-09 02:18 AM
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36. They need to do that with the directors too. |
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Hey, and why not the sound guys (just kidding)
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:56 PM
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Sun Feb-22-09 11:58 PM
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5. "...bless his shiny metal ass." |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:05 AM
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It's just hilarious to consider that Wall-E might have this lovable lugnut in his family tree:
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:00 AM
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6. Cult? Now those of us who liked Slumdog belong to a cult? |
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I wonder which cult I owe my allegiance to, the Obama or the Slumdog cult.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:07 AM
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I want to see Slumdog, too. It's just that this much hype can jinx a movie's historical legacy no matter how good it really is.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:10 AM
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12. Oh, I get it now - you're slamming it to keep it from getting jinxed. nt |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:15 AM
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16. Not slamming the movie, just all the damned hype |
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Yes, Slumdog Millionaire was rescued from the burning wreckage of Warner Independent by Fox Searchlight. Yes, this movie almost wound up in the "straight to DVD" bargain bin at Blockbuster Video. I get that. This looks like a wonderful movie. But there's no need to hype it so much that some people get turned off by it.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:20 AM
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20. Okay, now I am ticked |
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You mean I could have bought it at a bargain and now I am going to have to pay full price. dagnammit
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:22 AM
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23. You just made me do this... |
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:spray:
G'night. I really have to turn in now. :hi:
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:25 AM
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27. Good night. Hope you don't dream about Slumdog all night. nt |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:07 AM
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9. Outside the "industry" ,people don't give a crap about editing, screenplay, director, etc.. |
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The need a wing-ding party for insiders ,and have the broadcast show for what people want to watch:
Best: actor actress supporting actress supporting actor movie song and who died
That would all fit nicely in a 2 hour format, and allow everyone to actually thank the people they wanted to.
No dance numbers, no fakey, scripted small talk..
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:10 AM
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11. Well I for one am very aware of cinematography, editing, directing and all that technical stuff |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:12 AM
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14. Not interested in screenplay? Bite your tongue! |
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Sorry, but every Oscar-winning movie has a damn good screenplay as its foundation. Quentin Tarantino and Lawrence Bender shared a Best Original Screenplay award for Pulp Fiction a few years ago, and that's the only Oscar that the film won, so that's pretty damned important. Forrest Gump would simply have to carry on without that particular statue.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:18 AM
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I like all those other awards. :)
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:24 AM
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Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 12:24 AM by OmahaBlueDog
Some of us outside the greater LA area know who folks like Irene, Edith Head, James Wong Howe, Irving Thalberg, Dalton Trumbo etc. etc. etc. are/were/influenced the business.
I don't entirely disagree with you. Here's what I propose:
Move this to a Saturday. Start around 11AM Pacific. Take what are currently the technical awards, and add to them the awards for sound, costume, f/x, cinematography, etc. and show it on "E!". Then have a hiatus/cocktail hour , during which the stars show up. Then continue along the lines you propose starting about 6 Pacific.
I think your list definitely needs to add best picture (which I'd like to see split, like the Golden Globes, into Comedy/Musical and Drama), best animated feature, director and screenplay.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:24 AM
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26. I'm not in the industry, and I care about those categories. |
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Movies wouldn't be possible without them.
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Mon Feb-23-09 08:50 AM
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I am not really in the industry either.
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Mon Feb-23-09 04:34 PM
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51. Editing is very important. |
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And so is sound. I hate to watch a movie I can barely hear and then the volume gets louder.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:09 AM
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10. Wall-E was the best picture of the year, and if you disagree, EVE will ionize your ass. |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:11 AM
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13. Best film of the year, absolutely. |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:18 AM
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19. Really enjoyed Wall-E too. |
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In fact, there were quite a few good movies out there this year (some I have yet to see).
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Mon Feb-23-09 07:45 AM
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41. Bring it on... average animated fare AT BEST |
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Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 07:46 AM by JCMach1
We liked it, but not our favorite of the year by far... my daughters (10 and 13) also agreed with this...
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Mon Feb-23-09 04:28 PM
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49. That's your opinion, which you are entitled to. |
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You are simply wrong, that's all.
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Tue Feb-24-09 03:23 AM
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55. We preferred Kung Fu Panda and |
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Tue Feb-24-09 06:25 AM
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56. Kung Fu Panda was surprisingly good. I was impressed. |
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I hate Jack Black, too, so that's saying something. It wasn't quite as good as Wall-E, but it WAS very good. I haven't seen Bolt yet.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:14 AM
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15. Let's not act like this is something unheard of |
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Gone with the Wind, From Here to Eternity, On the Waterfront, My Fair Lady, Gandhi, and Amadeus won eight Oscars. Titanic, Ben-Hur, and The Return of the King each won eleven. West Side Story and The Last Emperor won ten. Gigi and The English Patient won nine.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:17 AM
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17. I have no issue with the number of awards won... |
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...just the misguided notion that it was taken for granted that SM would win all those awards. It had some pretty strong competition, y'know.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:22 AM
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22. Exactly- REALLY strong competition. Stronger. |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:24 AM
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24. Its best competition as the best film of 2008 wasn't even nominated |
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:27 AM
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28. Agreed- surprised the hell out of me. |
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Know just the one you're talking about, too.
The one I had to practically run out of the theater for while the credits rolled I was losing it so bad.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:30 AM
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29. Hell, I probably would've only kept one of the Best Picture nominees |
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Milk or Frost/Nixon. Flip a coin. I liked all of the Best Picture nominees (except the Reader, which was about as bad of a movie as I've ever seen), but like I said, there were three movies this year that hit me like a ton of bricks. And then you have Let the Right One In, which hit me like a fucking avalanche.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:33 AM
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30. What movies hit you like a ton of bricks? |
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I'd like to know.
I saw The Dark Knight -- SUCKED BIGTIME
Hancock - was much better than a plain action story, had a plot to it.
Wall-E, good but not as good as the hype
Milk -- excellent excellent excellent
Defiance -- Quite good true story of kickass Jews in WWII killing Nazis.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:36 AM
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1. The one you thought sucked bigtime. 2. The one that wasn't as good as the hype. 3. The Wrestler
Don't be mad! It's just me opining! :hide:
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:38 AM
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Frost/Nixon was good too.
Didn't even see Milk- but I imagine it's excellent.
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Oh, Gigi. I need to go to sleep.
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Mon Feb-23-09 12:21 AM
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21. The top hat and tails routine was paired with the wrong songs imo |
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Mashups gone horribly wrong.
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Mon Feb-23-09 09:15 AM
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48. Baz Lurhmann was responsible for that mess. What do you expect? |
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Beyonce's dress was terrible in that number, too.
Luhrmann changed a lyric from "New Orleans" to "Moulin Rouge" in the Lady Marmalade song. A little self-promotion?
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Mon Feb-23-09 07:32 AM
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38. I don't agree that Winslet's role was 'starring'- Melissa Leo was by far the best performance |
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in 'Frozen River'...
So Winslet wins for an average performance... same old Academy...
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Mon Feb-23-09 07:42 AM
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39. I really liked the show this year. |
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I thought they did a pretty good job with it.
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Mon Feb-23-09 07:44 AM
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40. Here are my top picks and opinions of the year (not that anyone cares) |
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1. Slumdog Millionaire (Best and most completely satisfying movie of the year) 2. The Wrestler (Rourke was robbed) 3. Frozen River (see this movie... Melissa Leo WAS robbed) 4. Gran Torino (Clint Eastwood's best movie ever...; Now tell me why he wasn't nominated for best actor or director?)
Honorable Mention: Milk, Mama Mia, Dark Knight, The Reader
Both Dark Knight and Mama Mia should have gotten Best Picture nods (if not the Win)
Overrated Movies this year: Wall E (average animated fair; my daughters also agreed with that assessment, Frost/Nixon, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (designed as Oscar fare, but serves-up boring tripe)
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Mon Feb-23-09 07:54 AM
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43. Check out Melissa Leo's imdb page-45 movies or TV since 2005 |
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http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0502425/She has TEN movies either "in the can" or announced.
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Mon Feb-23-09 07:57 AM
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44. Busy Lady... Frozen River was definitely an over-looked Movie |
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Mon Feb-23-09 07:49 AM
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42. I thought it was classic. Understated and I love the 5 past winners giving personal remarks |
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yes they were written but I liked that
Jackman's musical bit was horrible but DAMN that guy looked GOOD in that tux
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Mon Feb-23-09 08:51 AM
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It was different, and they said some nice things. It was a good changeup.
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Mon Feb-23-09 04:34 PM
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50. Suckdog Millionbore!!! |
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Mon Feb-23-09 04:43 PM
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52. Plus they gave an award to Jerry F'n Lewis |
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:puke: :puke: :puke: http://tabloidbaby.blogspot.com/2009/02/whod-protest-academy-award-for-jerry.htmlLos Angeles, CA - Disability community leaders from across disability advocacy will protest the decision of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to grant Jerry Lewis the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award at this Sunday's Oscar Awards ceremony. Lewis has described disabled individual is "half a person" and referred to a wheelchair as "a steel imprisonment."
For more than two decades, disability rights advocates have objected to Lewis' portrayal of life with a disability as tragic and pathetic. In response, Lewis snarled, "You don't want to be pitied because you're a cripple in a wheelchair? Stay in your house!"
Dismissing the disability community's objections, the Academy has decided to proceed with the award. In a letter to the activist group The Trouble with Jerry, Academy director Bruce Davis compared Lewis' insulting, outdated attitudes to "some scratches in the paint job... of a Lamborghini."
"To outsiders, Jerry Lewis may be perceived as a humanitarian, but to us Lewis personifies one of the biggest barriers facing people with disabilities: outdated attitudes," said author and activist Laura Hershey, a protest organizer. "While the Motion Picture Academy has chosen to award Lewis the Hersholt award due to the money raised on his MDA Telethons, we counter the cost is too high. Money can't buy respect." Said Hershey, "we experience the side-effects of Lewis' pity-mongering every day, when people see us as victims rather than as contributors, as recipients of handouts rather than equal citizens. Every dime raised has been at cost of our dignity."Not only that, only the French think he's funny. :P
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Mon Feb-23-09 04:59 PM
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53. Hated the Seth Rogan/James Franco bit. Stupid and |
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unfunny. Also, WTF was with Ben Stiller and his ridiculous, out-of-place Joaquin Phoenix impersonation that he simply wouldn't let go. He kept it up through the entire presentation of the cinematography award. I kept hoping someone would walk on and boot his ass off the stage. There's a time and place, and that wasn't it.
Many people at home have little idea what roles the actors were nominated for. I always enjoy seeing a small snippet of each performance and really missed that.
Also the camera work on the tribute to those who have passed on simply sucked.
This wasn't the worst Oscar telecast I've ever seen, but it was far from the best.
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Mon Feb-23-09 05:03 PM
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54. The banter was vomit inducing. |
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It's like you could practically hear Bruce Vilanch slacking off.
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Tue Feb-24-09 07:55 AM
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57. Millionaire was a very good film, and a nice change from the types of films |
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that usually win IMHO.
Milk was great, Doubt was great - there were so many good films to pick from this year, though.
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