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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:20 PM
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I hated No Country For Old Men (maybe spoilers)
I hated this movie so bad. I guess I'm a moron or simpleton, but I just didnt get it.
Nor did I think that Bardem (Mr Cattlegun) was such a great actor or great role.

FWIW, I also HATED Burn After Reading.

I am officially done with the Cohen Brothers

You may trash me now.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:21 PM
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1. I hated it, too
The ending was stupid. Oh, yeah, I forgot... what ending?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:28 PM
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4. The ending makes perfect sense
Once you accept who the main character is.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:29 PM
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5. I'm not big on violent movies
Next time someone tells me a movie has excessive violence, I think I'll just skip it.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:32 PM
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6. when it's integral to the story it doesn't bother me, when it's gratuitous i don't like it.
not that i love violence or anything but look at a film like Pan's Labyrinth, it was violent but it was part of the story, it's what happened during that era.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:33 PM
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7. I thought the ending was perfect.
Great movie. Book was excellent also.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:36 PM
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10. There was no ending!
There wasn't.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:38 PM
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14. SPOILER ALERT!
Did you see Tommy Lee Jones' speech at the end? That was the ending, and it worked just fine IMO.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:39 PM
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17. That was just depressing
:-(
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:43 PM
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21. Well, it's not meant as a pick me up
The ending of was pretty depressing, too. Sometimes good films are like that.

:shrug:
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:41 PM
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18. You just have to hear the words....
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:42 PM
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20. Maybe I do
:P
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 12:14 PM
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38. You didn't wait until the end of the credits?
They all went out for some taquitos and cervezas.

They filmed it just for people who require a formal "ending".
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:37 PM
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12. I love the book and the film
I've been a major McCarthy fan ever since My Good Babuskha gave me Blood Meridian back in 97. I've since read everything that he's written.

He's not for everyone, and some of his quirky choices can seem arbitrary and affected (minimal punctuation, for instance), but I think he's magnificent.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:38 PM
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13. I thought the ending was almost poetic.
I had to think about it a lot, and then watch it a second time, but I think I know what the ending meant. In the dream Tommy Lee Jones is talking about at the end he says he heads for the snowy mountains. I think that represent his life as a sheriff. Then he says a man goes on ahead of him, which I think represents the killer awaiting him.

When he wakes up he realized he was in the process of living that dream out, that he was heading for his own death if kept pursuing Chigurh. The scene in the motel where Tommy Lee Jones realizes that Chigurh might be there and could kill him if he wanted to also drove the point home, as does visiting his handicapped friend.

Talking about that dream was his way of saying he recognizes that he's now out of his league, that this new breed of criminal is too much for him (the movie is set in 1980 when drug smuggling was really taking off there). He's the Old Man in the title, and that isn't his country anymore.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 12:28 PM
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39. I just watched it for the first time over the weekend,
this puts the movie into a little better perspective.

Other than that, I didn't get a whole lot out of it.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:36 PM
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42. Coen Brothers movies seem to be real hit or miss with people.
I love their stuff, but I know a lot of people hate it. That's why we get so many movies to choose from...so we all have something to get into. :)
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:42 PM
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43. Honestly I wouldn't know them from the next guy,
I'm not a big movie person so I watched the movie for the sake of watching it. My wife wanted to watch it, she lasted about half an hour before she fell asleep.

I sort of understood the plot but there were scenes that just didn't seem to fit for what I thought the movie was going.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:22 PM
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2. i really like both.
you like what you like.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:27 PM
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3. I'm kind of with you....
I'll admit I didn't watch Old Country. It looked too intense...not bad, just too much for me at the time...including now.

I'd been kind of growing tired w/ their stuff, but my wife and I took a chance w/ Burn this weekend, and I gotta say, even w/ my skepticism on high, I laughed pretty damn hard. To me, a pretty scathing parody of American middle age...it hit colse to home, but I appreciated the comedic insights, too.

Great rhythm, too: right after my wife said "We don't really know what she does, do we?" they cut to her in her office and revealed her occupation. Perfect....

Not to argue, but what don't you like about Burn and the CoBros in general? Too mean-spirited?
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:37 PM
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11. Brad Pitt stole Burn After Reading IMO
Such a great moron: "I thought you might be worried... about the security... of your shit." :D
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:39 PM
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***Spolier**** he did, he was hilarious.
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 10:48 PM by AlCzervik
i was mad though when he got killed.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:44 PM
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22. uh, spoiler
I didn't care so much that he got killed as much as the graphic portrayal.

They could have shown the whole thing from like the side angle, with Clooney shooting then his gaze slowly following Pitt down to the floor. George with that befuddled look on his face and the shooting off-camera. Would have preserved the farce a lot better.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:42 PM
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19. I thought that CIA boss was excellent too
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 11:06 PM by Skittles
his chronic look of befuddlement cracked me up :D
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:45 PM
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25. Oh god JK Simmons is the best.
"No. God no. Burn the body." :rofl:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:11 PM
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34. LOL
:rofl:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:50 PM
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28. i love him, he was awesome in OZ, Law and Order and on The Closer.
a bunch of the actors people from Oz have ended up on the various Law and Order shows.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:54 PM
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29. And Juno's dad... great role.
That's where I first became aware of him, not being a Law & Order guy.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:56 PM
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31. he was Dr. Skoda on Law and Orders and he was fantastic on Oz, so was Chris Meloni.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:44 PM
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23. That's already a catch phrase in our house
I think it was one of the best ensemble comedies I've seen in a while. Clooney was good, McDormand was brilliantly neurotic, Swinton repressed and hung up...

:hi:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:30 AM
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35. "Don't you think that's enough carrots?"
"For the sahhhhlad?"
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:34 PM
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8. "You should put up a note in the ladies' locker room."
:D
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:35 PM
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9. It repelled me at first
But I HAVE to see it again.

I' guessing it will be one of my favorite movies once I understand the nuances.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:38 PM
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15. The book is much better!!!
Try reading the book. It's pretty good.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:39 PM
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16. a lesson I learned, first thing to do is look for tracers when you find a bag full of money
Carly
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EastTennesseeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:45 PM
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24. You still probably won't like it, but
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 10:46 PM by EastTennesseeDem
maybe you'll at least appreciate what the Coens and McCarthy were going for better if you:

-Understand Anton = Death
-Draw the parallel between Anton and Ed Tom's father, and the journey

If it had ended satisfyingly, it would've turned into just another crime film with no depth to it.
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:47 PM
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26. The ending was a little anti climatic to me, but
otherwise I found the acting superb, and the story line engaging.

Burn After Reading was a major let down. I anticipated much more.The only redeeming factors was Pitt out of character and Malkovich in.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:49 PM
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27. Don't hate that which you don't understand.
Just say you don't understand it. No shame in that, it was a strange film with a message you had to be in to to get. If you got it, it was one of the most brilliant films in years. If not, it probably was pretty dull.

And Burn After Reading was not one of their better works. Might have been their worst. I didn't dislike it, but it just seemed a retread of a bunch of devices they've used before. Then again, they meant it to be a minor release, and admitted it wasn't one of their best.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 10:56 PM
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30. I loved No County, and I love the Coen brothers!
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 10:56 PM by bigwillq
:bounce:
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:04 PM
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32. I didn't hate it, exactly
It was compelling in an odd sort of way.

But I didn't get it either. Maybe I lack movie discrimination and taste, because I'd rather re-watch "Evil Dead" (both one and two) any day before subjecting myself to No Country for Old Men again.

I'll pass on Burn after Reading. Someone was trying to describe it to me, and--well, just I don't think so.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 11:06 PM
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33. Haven't seen it
but alleged friends have told me I remind them of Chigurh, for my pathological sense of righteousness.

Just so you know...

:shrug:

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 10:42 AM
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36. That is kind of scary...
O_O
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:06 PM
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40. It's hyperbole; don't worry
:hi:
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 12:12 PM
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37. It was okay, but I probably would have liked it better if I read the book.
The Coens are still hands down my favorite directors, but nothing else of theirs will approach Fargo or The Big Lebowski.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:11 PM
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41. Yeah, I didn't like it.
I understood it. I just thought it was dumb.

Burn After Reading was OK. Loved the CIA boss. And Clooney's paranoia. But it was lacking something.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:46 PM
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44. i posted something similar a year ago and got buried...
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:48 PM
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45. I loved it. I need to see Burn though!
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 03:57 PM
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46. Best suspense movie I've seen in a very long time
Everyone in the film was excellent, too.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-24-09 04:03 PM
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47. The McCain 08 story.
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