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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:14 AM
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Wesley Crusher.
GO!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:15 AM
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1. I'm not usually a fan of violence or bullying
but I would make an exception for him.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:30 AM
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11. I could see that
best thing that happened to that show was writing him out of it.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:09 PM
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18. And the best thing for the show was to finally end...
And the best thing for the show was to finally end... only did it seven or eight years too late :evilgrin:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:30 AM
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12. I could see that
best thing that happened to that show was writing him out of it.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:37 AM
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2. I thought he was one of the more interesting characters
and I frequently looked forward to him appearing on the show. The presence of young people as regular characters was one of the few advantages TNG had over the original series. It was smart of the writers to include a character who their young male fan base could identify with.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:42 AM
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4. I liked the episodes where they had Ashley Judd as his girlfriend
Made him appear more human...of course he managed to transcend it...
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:54 AM
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5. mmhmm
Edited on Wed Feb-25-09 03:55 AM by Radical Activist
ashley judd. :)

is that the episode where whoopi tells wesley that love will never be the same as it was with that girl because it's different with everyone you fall in love with?
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 04:06 AM
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6. Could be
I know they didn't become a couple but I have to confess: I don't know for sure! I'm with you, I do not dislike Wesley Crusher...the show was on the air long enough to explore all sorts of angles, looking back on the series I miss it...

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:43 AM
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7. Back in the day of the animated Trek, the studio wanted to add kiddie space cadets.
Roddenberry wisely demurred...and yet there is Wesley Crusher.

Wil Wheaton eventually learned to act, and I did think he did okay, but early on he was annoyingly bad.
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3.14158675309 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:57 AM
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8. It is my understanding that the character of Wesley Crusher was developed
By Roddenberry himself; a character with whom HE identified.

Plus, the kid became a frikking traveler for God's sake! That's kewl, and all naysayers are simply bitter and jealous.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 05:28 PM
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22. exactly - there were plenty of smart alecks on all the other stations...

:thumbsup: I really liked the Traveler angle as well.


As a know-it-all and nerd from way back, I totally appreciated his adolescent awkwardness, his tendency to ingratiate himself, be too eager, and know stuff no one else did. Odd that so many geeks find him objectionable, doesn't make much sense to me. :shrug:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 11:17 AM
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15. I was 16 when ST:TNG began & I hated Wesley from the moment he fell in the water in the holodeck
From the very outset he struck me as a ham-fisted attempt to try to give the young male fan base someone to identify with. He always seemed like a tacked-on addition, and after one too many "boy genius saves the day" episodes, I just couldn't take him anymore.


Nothing against Wil Wheaton, though--he's a fine actor and (by all accounts) a great person.
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 03:38 AM
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3. He's dead, Jim
dontcha wish? But noooo, he's alive in some future timeline!
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 07:58 AM
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9. Some of the stuff I've read of Wil Wheaton's...
...he really hated the way Wesley Crusher was written...:banghead:
a snotty, know-it-all, wet-behind-the-ears puppy (no insult intended to canine children).
The interminable parade of sweaters that wardrobe deemed appropriate for him apparently drove him bugnuts too...

Wil appears on FARK every now and then...has his own website and is actually a very funny, down-to-earth, knowledgeable geek.

And I use the term 'geek' in its positive context. :hi:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 08:19 AM
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10. Hated the twerp, but he got to marry Ashley Judd, so...
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blueraven95 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 09:07 AM
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13. a friend of mine had the BIGGEST crush on him
for years back in middle school and high school. She would hate the fact that I'm telling the world about it now. :evilgrin:
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 10:20 AM
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14. I almost convinced Wil Wheaton to join DU.
In the end,he just didn't have any spare time. He like the site,however.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:05 PM
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17. I just found this:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 05:47 PM
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23. He did a whole bunch of episode reviews, and they're REALLY funny
"Wesley jumps up from his console and shouts, "Wheee! I'm in Starfleet!" as he skips to the turbolift."

Sounds like Wil thinks Wesley needs an ass-kicking too. ;)
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 07:33 PM
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24. Whoa.
Wil thinks Wesley needs an ass-kicking too.

The metaphysical juxtapositional irony just blew my mind.

:o
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 08:30 PM
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25. It's like a rent in the time/space continuum. n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:51 PM
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29. Shucks, too bad.
I love his blog. He'd be a great fit here. I'm sure he must lurk from time to time. Some of his posts during the election sounded like a DU-er. :D
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-25-09 12:39 PM
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16. He's no Tommy Webber.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 04:45 PM
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19. Wil Wheaton is cool.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 05:07 PM
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20. Better than Deanna Troi any day. At least he occasionally did something useful.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 05:18 PM
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21. He shares my name with me,
so that's pretty cool for me ...

And then there's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4SKL94akKs

Can we talk about Worf's kid now or Tasha Yar?
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nickinSTL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 09:32 PM
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26. I didn't mind Wesley...
I know a lot of people hated him.

To Wil Wheaton's credit, he did too. Wil's actually really amusing. Geeky, and from me, that's a compliment (my wife and all my friends are geeks - I'm actually probably the least geeky of the group)
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 10:23 PM
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27. Go?

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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:47 PM
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28. The Human Equivalent of Scrappy Doo
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-02-09 11:53 PM
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30. Probably less of a royal pain in the arse than Deanna Troi.
...I'd rather go to the Holodeck than be with Deanna, if you catch my drift. Ryker and Worf had strained relations because they BOTH wanted this woman?



:rofl:
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Zavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-03-09 12:26 AM
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31. An intolerable little asshole, but a lot of the crew was as well.
Geordi, played by someone who overacted most scenes ("YES! If I could just get a little more output from the PLASMA RELAYS, I could get more power for the DEFLECTOR DISH, and we could..." - he looked like he was giving birth every time he explained theory), was a whiny jagoff who couldn't get a woman. Boo hoo.

Beverly was as annoying as her son, but most guys didn't notice because she was pretty hot. Best scene in the history of the series: when Q turned her into a dog before the little blonde Q changed Beverly back.

Deanna Troi - well, already addressed in this thread, but her every other appearance had me reaching for a bottle of Bayer.

Reginald Barclay - the whiniest, most pathetic Starfleet officer ever.

Outside of Picard, Worf, Data and Riker, it's no wonder by Wesley became an asshole. He was brought up by one and surrounded by lots of others.



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