Wilco is now officially boring adult music-and I say that as a boring adult.

[Dr Fate]

"Now available at Starbucks- Wilco's latest!"

Ugggg!

Jesus I wish they would make another rock & roll record like they did a few years back instead of this "safe" mini-van soundtrack, coffee shop crap.

Their new stuff is almost worse than Sheryll Crow, Christian Rock or an old Loggins & Messina record.

Get out while you still can- you heard it here first.

Discuss.

;)

[Cant trust em]

1. You're not a boring adult yet. You don't even have kids.

You and Ryan should come out to the Mission. We'll dinner then go out for a few drinks and have a rockin' good time.

[Dr Fate]

5. Compared to Wilco, that must be true.

Yeah- let's tie one on for a change.

[Jetboy]

2. Listening to Yankee Hotel many years ago came an

epiphany... if I liked it, then I was old. I decided that I hated it and have pretty much stuck to sleazy dirty rock-n-roll ever since.

[Dr Fate]

4. I think you made the right choice.

Although I liked it at the time- I'm not sure I would listen to it right now.

I still think "War on War" is a pretty catchy track. But then again, I read a funny article in Ugly Things that you have to wait until 10 years later to tell what was good and what was not- now there might be something to that.

Rock & Roll requires a teenage mindset to a degree- you either got that or ya don't, and Wilco aint got it.

[mitchum]

23. David Johansen on The Dolls and rockandroll...

"You just gotta go out there and pretend that you are sixteen years old and don't give a shit"

[Dr Fate]

24. Fantastic quote b/c it's true....

...the best bands are young or young at heart...

[Cant trust em]

7. It depends on my mood.

Sometimes I'm feeling a little more serene, so some YHF does the trick.

Sometimes I'm feeling more angsty and I just want some two guitar attack rock.

[Zomby Woof]

3. Jeff Tweedy was always a boring twit

The much-heralded "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" put me to sleep.

Jay Farrar was the real soul and brains behind Uncle Tupelo. Far better to go with Son Volt than Wilco.

The lone exception being the two "Mermaid Avenue" albums, but those owe their worth to Woody Guthrie and Billy Bragg.

[Dr Fate]

10. Yes-I admit that it was a treat to get to hear those Guthrie lyrics! n/t

n/t

[Throd]

6. Now?

same as it ever was

[Dr Fate]

8. Yeah- now it's official- in that adult contemporary is what they are intentionally going for.

They know their audience: The mini van crowd.

Going to their shows must be like going to a PTA meeting- minus any teenagers, of course.

At least they used try to glean influence from Televison, etc. But I hear ya- I do.

Now we are subjected to this "Let's revisit Bread and Yacht Rock as a legit influence" crap.

[mix]

9. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot doesn't age well either n/t

[Dr Fate]

11. Parts of it are indeed a bit "90's Jam Band", no? n/t

n/t

[last_texas_dem]

12. _A.M._ is still my favorite Wilco album

Depressing lyrics do a lot for me, I guess. haha I haven't heard the last couple of albums, though...

[Dr Fate]

13. That one or Summer Teeth, if I had to pick one. n/t

n/t

[mvd]

14. I'd discuss, but I'd just disagree with you

:-)

[mvd]

15. See instead of boring, Wilco (The Album)..

IMO finds them in a comfortable groove... just very solid stuff all around. In that way, it's band defining. It's a nice change from some of the pop stuff I listen to. And Sheryl Crow is great IMO. Mainstream, but quality music.

[Dr Fate]

19. As long as you don't call it "Rock & Roll"-but "adult contemporary"- then I'll give all that to you.

Or a classification of "mainstream pop" will not get an argument from me either...

[Initech]

16. I kind of agree, I'm not the biggest fan of their latest album.

[omega minimo]

17. The sad part is Loggins and Messina records hold up pretty damn well

and have to give it to Ms. Crow, after turning up my nose for years. She was on "Prairie Home Companion" and did a fine job of pickin and singin.

:thumbsup:

That Wilco stuff and regional sound is great to pick up in local bands and yes, they did become adults.

Are you a fan of Grandaddy? Forever Goldrush?

[Dr Fate]

20. My turn-table does not hold up Loggins & Messina well at all.

I'm sure Ms. Crow sings & picks just fine- but her recordings sound over produced to me...

Adults who make Rock & Roll are not the problem- Iggy Pop and Nick Cave are adults, for instance.

Never heard Grandaddy, etc- I've fallen out of the whole Alt-Country thing- although I love both Rock & Roll and hard-core country.

[aquaman]

18. I used to like Wilco....

Any of their new stuff, well, it does make me fall asleep if I can't. Son Volt is better!

[mitchum]

21. But the Americana that he was instrumental in with Uncle Tupelo and early Wilco was...

boring adult music. He's always been on that path.
My best friend was the "altcountry gun for hire" for quite a number of years and he always said of the audiences, "It's great. Night after night of balding middle aged guys with beards"

[Dr Fate]

22. The early Wilco shows were loud Rock & Roll shows with all college & HS kids attending...

I know b/c I was there at some of those early shows...

Even still, point taken- the genre is a little rusty.

I always hated the "Americana" label in any event...

Any attempt to name a new genre is often just another way to say the artist in question is not playing Rock & Roll.

I've been over that shit for years- it's kinda played out. Still love old hard-core Country & Western though...

[Tangerine LaBamba]

25. I always thought they were boring,

except when they got into the Woody Guthrie stuff with Billy Bragg, and then I thought they were terrific.

Heroic.

But, otherwise, they're as pedestrian as can be.....................