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Tue Jul-21-09 02:22 PM
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Dog drags newborn from family home in Ky. |
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LEXINGTON, Ky. - A newborn baby was hospitalized in critical condition after being taken from his crib and carried outside his central Kentucky home by a family dog, authorities said Tuesday. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32027117/ns/us_news-life/
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Tue Jul-21-09 02:25 PM
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Tue Jul-21-09 02:55 PM
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5. If it wasn't a "vicious attack" why kill the dog? |
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That really makes no sense at all.
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:41 AM
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19. Because when owners do stupid things, the dog is always the one to pay with it's life |
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Tue Jul-21-09 02:28 PM
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How scary is that? I'm glad they were able to find him so quickly...
Looks like he'll be OK...
A freak accident.
Wow.
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Tue Jul-21-09 02:38 PM
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Can you imagine being a father and seeing your dog with your baby in it's mouth? Terrible.
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Tue Jul-21-09 02:44 PM
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I can't even imagine the horror. Poor humans and poor dog.
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:00 PM
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6. I'm sorry the infant was injured. |
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But putting this animal down serves no useful purpose whatsoever. This story, with a safe and rational outcome, could have been a very powerful learning tool. Now nothing good will come of it.
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:00 PM
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7. What is a Native American Indian dog? |
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The dog was "a 4-year-old mixed breed called a Native American Indian dog." Wolf hybrid?
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:39 PM
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10. It is a "breed" that has been in North America for a long time... |
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the Native Americans semi-domesticated them. They have been living wild since (particularly in the low country of South Catolina) Awhile back, a few breeders started capturing, mating, and selling them. A friend obtained one last year. It is an interesting dog...but far more trouble than it is worth. The breed is still not domesticated enough. There is still always the danger of it killing neighborhood cats (prey) and returning to its original home.
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:48 PM
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12. Prey drive is strong in most dogs, really. |
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One of my huskies killed a skunk that hopped the fence only two nights ago. Didn't even get sprayed.
It is not the first time, either. :shrug:
That said, I trust him to sleep next to my 8-week-old daughter. He gives her a single small lick with his ears back, turns around and curls up next to her.
That said, I've never met one of these dogs, so who knows.
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:54 PM
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13. That is indeed true for all dogs, but that breed requires extra vigilance... |
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they are still a bit too wild for lax coexistence with a family
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Obama2012
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:37 AM
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16. Lots of dogs have a strong prey drive |
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Doesn't equate to human aggression though.
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:48 AM
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21. Actually, that's not the breed origins |
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They were bred to look like that based on old photographs.
Not by capturing wild dogs in South Carolina (WTF?) and breeding them.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:21 AM
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24. I had not seen the photograph of the dog involved in the attack when I made my post... |
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you are right; it is indeed a different type of dog. The dog I was referencing has a leaner build and a short-haired coat. The dog in the attack has that husky/Shepard/"wolfy" appearance. I am aware that the info in my post does seem to be quite WTF?-ish but that is the truth about the specific breed I was referring to. The "breeder" warned my friend about their over willingness to see everything as prey. And their homing instinct(?) is rather freaky. He has already had 5 previously sold dogs just show up wearing their collars, tags, etc. after escaping from their new homes. Some have traveled as far as 150 miles. I don't know why anyone would put up with that type of aggravation.
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:36 AM
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15. It's a breed, just not an AKC one |
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It'll become one if the AKC decides they can make money off it, then the breed will be destroyed.
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Wed Jul-22-09 04:49 PM
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39. it was a wolf-collie hybrid |
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according to a linked article in the sidebar.
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:42 PM
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40. Oh, I was just going by the breed mentioned in the inital article |
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That wasn't there when I read it. I wonder if's really a hybrid. I've never heard of wolf/collie hybrids before. Wolves mixed with sled dogs, German Shepherds or Akitas, I've heard of. Never heard of anyone breeding them with collies.
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:01 PM
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8. My first thought: maybe the dog thought the baby was in danger |
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I know that's rather sentimental but it's not clear what the dog was trying to do. If there had been a fire in the house, the dog would've been a hero.
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:20 PM
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9. I hope they destroy that animal and quite frankly if it had been my child the dog would not have |
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survived lo g enough to be placed in quarantine.
Any animal that sees an infant as prey or even as a play thing is an intolerable menace.
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:42 PM
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11. It is highly irresponsible to keep that breed as pets... |
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see my post 10 above for more information
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:41 AM
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18. Not any more irresponsible than keeping any active, high-prey drive breed |
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Soo...that can eliminate many hunting breeds, huskys, Akitas, pretty much every terrier, and most herding dogs. It's irresponsible to keep any of those dogs clearly.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:58 AM
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28. If you have such a fucking problem with all of my posts... |
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Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 11:10 AM by mitchum
(as you appear to) why don't you send me a goddamn PM?
And ultimately...it's just a dog. (Did that wind you up?)
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Wed Jul-22-09 01:02 PM
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33. I was just dispelling misinformation |
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I don't have a problem with you. I don't know you.
And, yeah, I think it's pretty sick to say, "it's just a dog." It's a living creature. I respect living creatures.
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:39 AM
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17. Well, they were idiots for allowing a dog (of any breed) unsupervised with an infant |
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The dog shouldn't die, because it's owners were idiots.
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:49 AM
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22. I am not sure I would call the owners idiots. |
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They have other children, and the dog was fine with them. They said the dog had taken toys and other stuff outside. My next thought process wouldn't be oh the baby will probably be next. Maybe the dog shouldn't have been with the baby unsupervised, but that doesn't mean the parents are idiots. And from what I gather, the parents don't want the dog put down, but it may be out of their control.
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:19 AM
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31. I won't go so far as to call the owners idiots without more information than what |
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was provided in the article. If there were other people in the house (they were preparing for a baby shower), someone else may have left the door open allowing the dog to get in the room with the baby. Without knowing the whole story, I'm not going to criticize the parents as being irresponsible.
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Wed Jul-22-09 04:23 PM
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38. it's the human's fault for keeping a wolf-hybrid |
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Per the sidebar, the "dog" is actually part wolf and part collie. It should *never* have been kept as a pet by non-pro's to begin with.
That's not a breed so much as a fad. Wolves and wolf-hybrids should not be allowed to be kept as "pets" because they aren't truly domesticated. It's unfair to put them in this kind of situation and then blame them for the results.
A friend of mine is licensed to keep wolves, which is something she does only as rescue. They require a "strong" handler who knows what the heck they're doing.
I'm glad they didn't kill the wolf hybrid because it was not to blame. According to another sidebar article it either is up for, or has been, adopted. Hopefully by somebody with a clue.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:51 PM
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43. I think keeping a wolf or wolf hybrid in the house makes as |
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much sense as keeping a tiger or chimpanzee. There's a reason we differentiate between domesticated and wild animals!
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Tue Jul-21-09 03:57 PM
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14. ooooo I haven't used this picture in AGES!!! |
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Edited on Tue Jul-21-09 03:58 PM by LynneSin
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:46 AM
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20. I too, am seeing real potential. I am giving this thread a |
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Wed Jul-22-09 09:52 AM
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23. If the dog had wanted to kill the baby, it would not have taken it outside in the first place. |
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Of course an infant would be harmed simply by being in the mouth of a large dog.
This is a horrible case of animals doing what animals sometimes do. Can you imagine a dog of that size actually getting into the baby's crib, taking out the baby and then going outside? Sounds strange.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:32 AM
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25. If the mother had been breastfeeding the dog wouldn't have gotten the baby. |
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Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 10:33 AM by rug
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:44 AM
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26. This is precisely why babies should be stored at Olive Garden until they're old enough |
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anyone who disagrees with me is a fascist.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:57 AM
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27. Everyone knows wolf-dogs are attracted to infant foreskins. |
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The baby should have been circumcised.
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:11 AM
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29. Yep. Parents were totally negligent and immoral in not circumcising the baby. |
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I wholeheartedly agree!
They're probably the kind of drug-using hippies you find at Harvard or Berkley.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:32 PM
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42. drug-using hippies indeed! |
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It's all the fault of the boomer generation for screwing everything up and making it possible for wolf hybrids to steal babies
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:13 AM
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30. Wrong. This never would have happened if the dog had been breast fed,. In public. |
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Wed Jul-22-09 01:12 PM
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The baby's mother should have been breastfeeding that dog.
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:21 AM
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According to the news this morning (NBC out of Lexington), the baby is fine and the dog will be put up for adoption instead of being euthanized.
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Wed Jul-22-09 01:25 PM
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36. That is the best outcome ever. |
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I hope someone will adopt that doggie.
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Wed Jul-22-09 04:10 PM
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The best part is that the baby is fine. They need to place the dog in a child-free home with lots of room for it outdoors - it doesn't sound like a vicious dog, but it obviously doesn't understand how fragile children are, either.
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Wed Jul-22-09 10:15 PM
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41. People really shouldn't leave the dogs with little babies |
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Edited on Wed Jul-22-09 10:20 PM by LisaL
without supervision. Especially a dog similar to a husky mix.
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Wed Jul-22-09 11:14 PM
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It is good news that the doctors are optimistic about his survival. I hope he has a full recovery.
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