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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:25 PM
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TZ, you got some 'splaining to do about your 'skins
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/02/AR2009090203887.html

It would be hard to find a more loyal fan of the Washington Redskins than real estate agent Pat Hill. She's had season tickets since the early 1960s, when her daughter danced in the halftime shows at the old D.C. Stadium, before it was renamed in memory of Robert F. Kennedy.

Now, Hill says, her beloved Redskins are forcing her into bankruptcy.

Last year, Hill's real estate sales were hit hard by the housing market crash, and she told the team that she could no longer afford her $5,300-a-year contract for two loge seats behind the end zone. Hill said she asked the Redskins to waive her contract for a year or two.

The sales office declined.

On Oct. 8, the Redskins sued Hill in Prince George's County Circuit Court for backing out of a 10-year ticket-renewal agreement after the first year. The team sought payment for every season through 2017, plus interest, attorneys' fees and court costs.

Hill couldn't afford a lawyer. She did not fight the lawsuit or even respond to it because, she said, she believes that the Bible says that it is morally wrong not to pay your debts. The team won a default judgment of $66,364.





damn, that's just harsh.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:27 PM
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1. I never said Dan Snyder wasn't a giant prick or perhaps a tiny one
Almost as big as Peter Angelos...AHEM. Read about some of HIS lawsuits sometime
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:30 PM
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3. sure, they're both jackasses
but seriously, a 60+ yr old woman??

:wtf:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:28 PM
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2. It's unacceptable. I hope this article stops this shit. AND...
I'll bet you find the same shit done by other teams.

The Redskins - and the NFL - are insanely wealthy.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:43 PM
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4. And the Redskanks will just sell those tickets to someone else...
...they have a huge waiting list. What pricks.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:49 PM
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Three words: Senator Curt Shilling.
Nuff Said!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:01 PM
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10. Weren't you the one who posted an article about them screwing season holders
who have been waiting YEARS and selling the tickets to 3rd parties, i.e., scalpers, instead. You know I'm right.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:27 PM
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12. That was me who posted that article yesterday!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 03:35 PM
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15. I knew it was someone who had poor choice in teams they are fans of ! n/t
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:11 PM
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19. Roid Rager.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 03:35 PM
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16. I knew it was someone who had poor choice in teams they are fans of ! n/t
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:11 PM
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20. Nice post, Victor Kiam!
:rofl:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:30 PM
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5. What a douchebag! Way to take advantage of a person when they are down.
Forced into bankruptcy, because of a corrupted NFL owner.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:44 PM
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6. Look who is talking!
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 01:44 PM by TZ
Just look at the way JJ treats his employees. He is every bit as bad as Snyder.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:26 PM
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11. You have a linkie for the accusation?
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:27 PM
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13. Amnesia?
What he did to Tex Schramm? Tom Landry? Faces of the franchise?
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 03:33 PM
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14. He didn't force either of those gentlemen into bankruptcy.
He fired them, which is his perogative as an owner. Funnily, I recall that Danny-boy Snyder has fired his share of coaches also.

Your comparison makes no sense, Snyder. Comparing the firing of two coachs in no way equals suing someone into bankruptcy.

:wow:

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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:49 PM
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7. Washington Redskins - We Hate Our Fans!
I mean, I always suspected as much given their mediocre play, but this just confirms it.
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:54 PM
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8. $5,300 a year for two seats? For 8 games?
Yikes.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:59 PM
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9. The teams with CLASS
But spokesmen for the following National Football League teams said they do not sue their fans over season ticket contracts: Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Jacksonville Jaguars, New York Giants and Jets, Seattle Seahawks and Tennessee Titans.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:10 PM
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17. The moral of this story is to hire a damn lawyer
Sorry, I don't buy the "couldn't afford a lawyer."

I suspect it was a case of "Didn't want to pay a lawyer."

Here's what would have happened with a lawyer: A reasonable settlement would have been reached.

She did sign a contract and no one forced her to do that.

Yes, the Skins are being assholes. But everyone knows that Snyder is an asshole.

Sorry, I'll save my sympathy for someone who isn't so damn stupid.

Flame away.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 04:10 PM
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18. Delete, posting bug
Edited on Thu Sep-03-09 04:11 PM by taterguy
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