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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 10:44 AM
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Hey, Big Brother fans....
Can someone explain the support Jeff gets from the fans? I don't understand why people like him. Even Julie seemed to like him. He wasn't really the great player people make him out to be. He won one HOH and one veto....less than Michelle and the same as Kevin/Jordan. He never came up with any great strategic move....unlike Kevin and Natalie with their Russell/Michele lie.

I feel like I lose brain cells listening to him (ex: You got got). He's not really funny, although I know many feel he is. On top of that, he acted like a whiny baby when he realized he was going to be evicted, despite the fact that he chastised others for their behavior before leaving.

To me, Jeff is just a homophobic bigot who was an average player. I don't get it.

Anyway...how do you feel about what's gone on in the house recently? Who do you want to win?

I thought Kevin did a great job selling the Russell and Michele lie to Jeff. Kevin lucked out that there was actually some truth to the lie. I think Jeff was in trouble no matter what...I think Russell would have come after him too.

I want Kevin to win but I think Michele will win.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 03:13 PM
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1. I cannot stand Natalie.
I liked Jeff okay, but my money is on Michele and has been from the beginning.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 07:23 PM
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2. I don't mind Natalie
She is a little annoying and went a little nutty after Jessie was evicted. I don't understand why Jessie had such a hold over the girls. Natalie, however, is no where as bad as Jeff, IMO.
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Elmore Furth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 07:47 PM
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3. For Jeff, what goes around comes around NT
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-05-09 10:49 PM
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4. Yep
He did the same thing to Russel yet, for some reason, it's only ok for Jeff to break a deal.

He's so bitter too. I read an interview where Jeff said Kevin was the desperate one (referring to Kevin calling Jeff's last speech desperate). Jeff also said Michele's lying was ok because she only "bends the truth" but Kevin's lying was wrong. He's so hypocritical.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 01:55 AM
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5. Jeff strikes me as really angry
Like he has tons of anger below the surface always about to boil over.

What bothered me was when he said Russell and Michelle were creating a partnership out of the group of four. But Jeff and Jordan were doing the same thing. If the final 4 were Jeff, Jordan, Michelle and Russell then Jeff was going to eliminate everyone but Jordan. So that is hypocritical.

I am hoping Natalie and Kevin are kicked off, and I hope Michelle and Jordan are the final 2.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:01 PM
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7. He does seem to be angry.
I heard him mention once that if he were outside the house, he would've hit someone. I have a feeling it was just tough talk though.

Yes, making a final 2 deal within the final four was not breaking the deal. It only made sense considering Jeff and Jordan were going to stick together. It's interesting that Jeff thought him/Jordan making a final 2 deal was ok but Michele/Russel doing the same was wrong. I guess he expected the rest of the house to let him walk to the finals.

I hope Jordan doesn't make the final two. If she won, it would be the worst winner in BB history.
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:24 PM
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8. Because Jordan is a bad player?
Jordan sucks at the game, she wins almost nothing and Jeff basically carried her to the final 4. However I think she is nicer than the other competitors, so I hope either her or Michelle win it all. But I prefer Michelle to win.

Did you see Jeff after he lost the POV competition to Michelle? The guy is just angry all the time below the surface.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:06 PM
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10. Yes, mainly because she's a bad player
Jordan just said, during tonight's show, that Jeff told her to stick with Michele. That seems to have been her game plan all along....do what Jeff says and let him get her to the end.

I wouldn't say Jordan's nicer. I also don't want her to win because of her use of gay slurs. She and Jeff felt is was ok to use the word f****t earlier in the game and I'm not ok with that.

Yeah, I saw what Jeff did to Michele after the POV. The funny thing is Michele still fought to keep Jeff in the game.

I want Kevin to win. He's been a good player and I don't think he has been mean. I like how he sees though BS, especially Natalie's...like how in the first episode he said "There's now way that girl's 18." I find Michele annoying but I would be ok with her winning since she did play a good game.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:05 PM
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15. Michelle fought to keep Jeff in the game because she isn't stupid.
He would be a bigger target than she. Same thing with Russell. He was almost as mean as Ronnie was to her. I do think that Jordan learned a lot from Kevin about homosexuality. She doesn't seem to be a homophobe. Just ignorant. Hopefully she learned that term isn't acceptable and is very ugly.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 10:35 PM
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16. I'm not sure that....
keeping a player who you can't beat in the final 2 is a good idea so late in the game. I knew Michele wanted Jeff to stay so he would be the target but I don't think she can beat Jeff. I think Jeff would've had Jordan, Jessie, Lydia, Natalie, and America's votes (I'm assuming America gets to cast Chima's vote).

My only problem with giving Jordan (and Jeff) a pass on the use of f****t is that it seems to down play how big of a deal it is. If Jordan and Jeff had used the "n word", rather than the "f word," I think the reaction would've been different. I do hope Jordan and Jeff learned from Kevin and will think twice before using the word.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 02:09 AM
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6. Well I really liked Jeff, alot. And I detest Natalie more than words can describe.
I've stopped watching the show, it holds no more interest for me.

I believe that Natalie is a sociopath, and I really don't like seeing them rewarded.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 07:30 PM
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9. He was way less whiny than most of them when he realized he
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 07:34 PM by Shell Beau
was getting evicted. Hello Chima! Hello Russell! Hello Jessie!

I do like Kevin. I like Michelle. I can't stand Natalie. She is the worst player in BB history. Please don't let her win.

I do like Jeff. I really hate the things he said, but I was happy to see him trying to learn from Kevin about him being gay. I know Jeff said some homophobic crap. I hate that, but I think he is more ignorant than anything. He seems to be willing to learn and accept. I think Michelle deserves to win the most out of anyone there. She has actually played the best game, IMO, but I am sure she will leave this week.

ETA: Natalie was the one who told Casey to not be a "bitter banana"! How bitter was she when Jessie left? It was so ridiculous that I was lmao. At least KEvin had the sense about him to see that. Chima, NAtalie, and Lydia all acted the most foolish out of anyone on the show.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:23 PM
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11. I found Jeff's whininess annoying because
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 08:25 PM by blue_onyx
he complained about other contestant's behavior. He would always say, " Dude, relax...it's just a game." Yet when his turn came, he bitched about Kevin doing the same thing to him that he did to Russell. It's the hypocrisy that annoys me.

As much I don't like Jessie, he didn't leave badly. He complimented Jeff on the good move and seemed to be good-natured about it. He even said in the jury house that he would probably vote for Jeff. Casey was actually the most whiny/bitter of the houseguests to leave. That's why he was one of my least favorite people this year.

It's ok that you like Jeff. I just don't understand it and that's why I asked about him. He's not that great of a player. He didn't really do anything to earn the coup d'état and the only other big move he made(evicting Russell) may have ruined his chances of winning. So I just don't get why people thought he was this great player.

Absolutely, Natalie, Chima, and Lydia were ridiculous when Jessie left. I don't know how Kevin could bite his tongue and not tell them how dumb they were being.

The only way Natalie even has a chance at winning is if Jeff's bitterness makes him vote for her over Kevin. I have a feeling Jordan will vote however Jeff votes. Jeff, Jordan, and Jessie voting for Natalie would tie it and America would probably break the tie (and likely vote for Kevin). So I don't see Natalie winning.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:28 PM
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12. The way Jessie dissed Kevin when he left made me mad. I didn't get it.
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 08:30 PM by Shell Beau
Kevin didn't do anything to deserve it. And Jessie's following interviews after being evicted showed what an arrogant ass America knew him to be. There was a reason America voted him out the first time. I didn't think Casey was all too bitter, but that is just me. At the time, he seemed to be the only person there that was half way sane. And let's face it, Russell could have made anyone loony. Chima was a diva. Her exit topped all of them. She was nasty and played the game like a poor sport. I can understand her being upset with how things played out, but jeez she acted like a diva queen. And America's vote was more of a vote against Jessie anyway. Anyone in that house should have known better to align with him if they watched his show the first time.

At this point, I am rooting for anyone but Natalie. Jordan hasn't played well at all, but she seems to be a nice and genuine person. Michelle has played well, and KEvin has started playing well in the past few weeks. So those are my picks.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:55 PM
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13. Oh
I forgot about his diss to Kevin. Yeah, that made no sense. Of course Jessie is arrogant but when he actually left, he seemed to take it better than I thought he would and better than many other contestants.

Casey seemed very bitter toward Ronnie. Kept going on about how he was a rat. Ronnie was only playing the game yet Casey seemed to act like that made Ronnie a bad person. He didn't even have a good sense of humor about when Ronnie was dared to hug him. When Casey left, he told Natalie to "go make Jessie a sandwich" which was rude and unnecessary. Plus, I hated the way Casey tried to act younger....he talked and dressed like he was 18. I was so annoyed that they bought him back for the banana competition. I almost put my tv on mute to avoid his voice.

I think Kevin will win. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't though. It seems that most seasons, the people I like don't win, like Keesha and Rennie last year.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 08:59 PM
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14. See, I laughed when he told Natalie to go make Jessie a sandwich.
Edited on Sun Sep-06-09 09:50 PM by Shell Beau
She was so up his butt the whole time and had been riding on his coattails. Kinda like she is doing with Kevin now. Although she did stick to her word and did win HOH. Casey was cool to me. I liked him. Still do. He was paranoid at the time when Russell tried to hug him and rightly so.

You and I obviously have different views of the people in the game, but now that it is down to the nitty gritty, at least we both like Kevin. He seems like a good guy, and he cracks me up!
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:40 PM
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17. I like Kevin & Michele
But I think Michele is toast this week, unless Jordan successfully sabotages herself.
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