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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-06-09 11:58 PM
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Modest Homeschooling Christian Clothing sewn by a Truly Custom Clothing Sewing Seamstress
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 12:07 AM by wickerwoman
http://www.modestapparelchristianclothinglydiaofpurpledressescustomsewing.com/

They don't sell patterns but they will design your website for $151.

Here's an example of their swimwear:



And here's the owner pimping out her last five martialable daughters:

"I've been a Bible Believer since 1975 and married since 1970. Am the mother of nine children, seven are girls. Two daughters are married making me the grandmother of eight in 2003. We like some of you have daughters martial age still living at home waiting for God to supply a Godly young man as a life-mate. Ireael is 22, Michaele is 20, they have each about completely finished copying the Bible, O.T. and N.T., by typing it or hand written."

This woman was the sole educator of nine people. You may now weep for the future of our nation.



"This third daughter is 24, a farm girl at heart. Doesn't want to get too far from her milk cow or the other animals for that matter.

Would like several children of her own, just has to find the right man first.

Mature, spiritual, obedient, kind, and a real blessing to all."



"Sixth daughter
is
19
and always ready."
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:13 AM
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1. Christian Lingerie
bloomers and pantaloons? These are some mighty big panties.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:14 AM
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2. Conservative Mennonite with Amish connections, I'd guess
Probably industrious and socially conservative. Probably pacifists. Probably good neighbors: if your house burned down, I bet they'd be there to help

Top of the page says the website and business are for sale due to a death in the family
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:18 AM
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4. "No, we are not Mennonite or Amish and never have been."
"Just bible believing Christians on this earthly pilgrimage from the city of destruction to the pearly gates of glory land. Entrance bought and paid for by the blood of the promised Jewish Messiah."

I don't need "good neighbors" who pimp out their daughters on their website dedicated to "modest dress".
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:59 AM
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8. I didn't see that disclaimer the first time around. So, then, I'm clueless.
There's the old-fashioned styling, like the suspenders and head-drapery. I can't tell if the trousers are side- or front-button. Beards aren't generally worn like that

It looks to me like a fairly limited movement: I don't think you need to worry too much about it spreading like wildfire
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:05 PM
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47. "Jewish Messiah" may be a buzzword
for Jews for Jesus or Messianic Jews.

Which are a disgusting front group for Southern Baptists to infiltrate and convert real Jews.

:puke:

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:47 PM
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62. The website suggests on its "Flavorite" wife is an ex-Catholic; there are links there
indicating, among other things, that divorce is really OK for Mennonites; there's the fact they sell Amish/Mennonite stuff; and there's the curious link to the on-line casino

If I were gonna guess at this point, I'd guess one of the couple had once been married to someone else, with some Mennonite connections, that the marriage had ended in divorce, and that arguing the Mennonite position on divorce became important for retaining some Mennonite contacts
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:18 AM
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3. Sixth daughter is 19 and always ready for what.
Look like they are trying to get rid of some daughters.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:52 AM
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14. She's got that gleam in her eye
Some little fundie lad is going to be VERY happy someday. :D
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:36 PM
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24. She's a saucy little strumpet!
Look! She's showing some calf! :o
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:12 PM
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28. Calf covered in sexy black stockings, no less.
I wonder if they're tights, knee-highs, or if she's wearing a garter belt.

Quiverfull porn is an untapped realm.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:15 PM
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29. zOMG, that sounds like the best website evar!
Am I totally evil for thinking we should really do that? :rofl:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:31 PM
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31. You might have to do it in anime
I can see it now... every time the girl gets it, a baby pops out. At the end the woman and her 50 kids are seen praying together at church.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:45 PM
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32. I'm thinking live action.
Something like the Botkin sisters' website (which is already dirty nasty QF porn, really,) but with hitched up ankles, winking and tongue in cheek text.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:09 PM
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44. These two upstanding young ladies?
I can't imagine them thinking of anything as filthy as sex... at least, sex with someone other than dad. :puke:



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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:59 PM
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46. Dad's creepy.
My inner ren faire dork sure wouldn't mind access to their closet. Just one dress. I'd even leave the lower girl some wax for that lip as a thank you.

Poor things are getting a bit spinster-y for QF wimmins. The Duggar girls will probably all have a minivan load by their age.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 09:35 PM
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45. She is NAKED under her clothes!
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:55 PM
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36. she's probably ready to get away so she can wear some fashionable clothes
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 03:12 AM
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50. "Always ready? I'll bet she is!"...
..."Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge, Say no more!" :evilgrin:

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:25 AM
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5. The English language has done nothing to deserve that sort of abuse.
"This website and business
For Sale
due to death in family
serious principals only
inquire within
& currently not take orders"

That looks like it was run through Google Translator and back.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:10 AM
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10. whois says the domain name is available
It's a little too specific to generate much interest, I'd guess

And I can't imagine what "business" is for sale, since it looks like a one-person shop, which can't have much except maybe some rolls of fabric

The majority of Americans, I suspect, can't write any better than the example you cite

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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:19 PM
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22. It doesn't even have rolls of fabric!
You have to buy your own fabric. Very, very strange business...kinda like the woman in your neighborhood who sews clothes for a living, except she's got a website.

The URL's a killer, though; needs to be far shorter and not quite as specific.

I think this business will never sell; anyone who has all the skills in patternmaking needed to run the business is already working in it.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:38 PM
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25. Well, maybe the seamstress comes with the business?
As you point out, she's likely be the only asset

But I can't really figure out why a death in the family would require ending the business, unless it was the seamstress who died. I suppose they might have been living on great-grandma's farm, and that she has passed, and now cash is needed to pay back taxes or to relocate

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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:38 AM
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6. How do Christians make all them babies when they got all those clothes on?
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:42 AM
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7. I do believe...
that the old joke is "through a sheet with a hole cut in it."
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:05 AM
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9. They could be in some serious trouble for selling dresses made from commercial patterns
sold to at-home seamstresses. That's obviously where the wedding dresses come from, and the pattern makers (whose work and photos they appear to have ripped off without shame or any hint to conceal the theivery) would be within their legal rights to sue them right out of their pantaloons.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:18 AM
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11. That's a good point.
And LMAO at "within their legal rights to sue them right out of their pantaloons."

I'm finding this site weirdly hypnotic. Like the insistence every ten lines that they do not sell patterns. Maybe she thinks as long as she isn't making the same size as the pattern and doesn't sell it that it's legal?

And my favorite fractured-English bit:

"Thank You. For visiting"
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:34 AM
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12. I think it's because their target market can all sew for themselves.
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 01:39 AM by LeftyMom
Sell them the patterns for a couple of sisterwife dresses and they'll make their own and probably extras for their sprogs and pass on the patterns to the ladies in their churches, etc. Of course most of them are quite capable of reverse-engineering the pattern from a sewn garment (heck, I'm not much of a seamstress and can do that AND draw my own patterns) so they emphasize that the patterns are not for sale to discourage them from doing so.

edit: The main thing keeping them out of trouble is probably that Simplicity or whoever isn't currently selling dated 80's wedding dresses with poofy sleeves or little girls' dresses that look like they were used as costumes for Little House on the Prairie, and thus might not be willing to expend even the little effort involved in sending out a cease and desist letter, let alone demanding their fair share of the profits made from selling dresses made from their designs.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:47 AM
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13. And thus we see the result of home-schooling by Christian whackjob fuckwits.
Language that is utterly incomprehensible, and view of the universe that matches it.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:37 AM
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16. Third daughter and you would make a lovely couple.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:18 PM
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18. Well, they almost finished typing out the Bible in 12+ years.
How much more schooling do you need?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:53 PM
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58. Her 19-year-old daughter is ready and waiting, you know.
Waiting to help you fulfill your dream of world domination and the rising of R'lyeh.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 04:46 AM
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15. Martial age?
They are now ready to fight? Wha??
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:21 PM
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23. Martial age = "age at which they're ready to go to war"
Which the oldest is about ready to do because at the age of 23, Mom still won't let her date.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 12:11 PM
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17. I love the quilts and the prices aren't bad for wedding dresses, especially if you
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 12:13 PM by GreenPartyVoter
use less expensive materials. Mine was a Victorian Inspired Jessica McClintock that cost less than $500, so you can get them off the rack, but I still had to have it altered so maybe having one handmade would have been less expensive in the end. (Although I did really love that dress. :) Wish the pic wasn't so washed out, because you can't see the detailing.)

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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 01:19 PM
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19. Hey, my daughter is "19 and always ready" too!
Always ready with some smart assed comment, that is. I wonder if that's what this website means as well.

Anyway, thanks for the link. If I ever need to buy a burkhini, now I know where to look.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:04 PM
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20. A burkhini!
:spray:
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 02:13 PM
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21. By the way, did you notice the link to the online casino?
It's at the very bottom left side of the page with the family pictures.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 04:18 PM
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27. Aha! A clue! An on-line casino in Moses Lake, WA!
Population about 15K. Created during the construction of Grand Coulee Dam. It's arid basin country, dependent on irrigated agriculture, as you can see by pulling the area up on Google Earth: miles of tell-tale green sprinkler system circles, interspersed with brown. Probably heavily dependent on cheap migrant labor. Early beneficiary of the "bracero" program. Some Japanese-Americans avoided internment camps by doing agricultural work there. Big WWII influx of Mormons. Strategic Air Command had a Cold War presence at Larson AFB

http://www.ccrh.org/comm/moses/overview.html
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:50 PM
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34. Interesting link. But I don't understand why the modest Christian
woman links to the casino. Is Papa's Sports Lounge & Casino one of those Christian casinos?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:16 PM
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38. Tis a good question. But many other questions arise. For example,
the site also offers webpage design and website hosting, though the site itself seems not to have been updated since 2006, and a 2005 update says something like all my prices have been doubled but you have to double them yourself because it's too much bother for me to edit this site -- which does not suggest one should expect great webpage design skills

You can also buy playcastles, puppies and used sewing machines from the site. Several unsuccessful efforts at money-making?
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:37 PM
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39. I didn't see the puppies, but on the page that offers the
playhouses and such, the lower left has a link to favorite sites. One of those favorite sites is Dr. Dino, who apparently offers a $250,000 reward for proving evolution!
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:43 PM
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40. Good luck getting him to pay out, he's staying at Club Fed for tax evasion.
:rofl:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:23 PM
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41. Yeah, I saw the "Flavorite" page: it's a strange one:
Mennonite justifications of divorce, anti-Catholic links, quiverfull stuff and more

:scared:
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 03:43 PM
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26. Sorry, these are no where near modest outfits.
Modesty means you don't show your bare arms, even if you do have the right to them.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:27 PM
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30. I think there are a lot of people out there who are so frightened by modern
Edited on Mon Sep-07-09 05:28 PM by tigereye
life, it's complexity and diversity, that they can only choose to have this isolated and limited type of life-style. They do look happy, though.


It's not what I would choose - I don't really get why so many women think that God, in whatever form, wants them to cover up.


:shrug:
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:48 PM
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33. Damn, I remember when I was 19.
I was 'always ready' back then, too, if you know what I mean.




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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 05:51 PM
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35. On the other hand...
On the other hand, much nicer looking than many of the fashions "statements" I see every day at the office.

I imagine we all have our own personal litmus test for how those around us dress- some receive our laughter, others our respect, and still others our "what in the world are they thinking...?"
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:47 PM
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42. I like a lot of those dresses. I was big into prairie skirts and quilted jackets back in the day.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:57 PM
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63. In the 1983-1984 era...
In the 1983-1984 era, there was a very popular (albeit localized to the North TX area) fashion that the women were really into-- Mexican Dresses (I don't know if that's the real name, a regional name, or anything else-- that's simply what they were called). Very long, very modest looking (especially when compared to the Gloria Vanderbilts and tight, fuzzy sweater fashions).

Fashion is a thing I'll never quite get. :P
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 06:16 PM
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37. So, her husband had good time for 5 years.
:rofl:
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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 07:57 PM
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43. This doesn't seem right to me.
Cape Dresses (Dresses page 1)
for Modest Christian Homeschooling Ladies
and their girls which homeschool


I don't think I would want to go to this homeschool.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-07-09 11:05 PM
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48. Looks like a fashion show for the Handmaid's Tale...
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:03 AM
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49. or Dwight Shrute's great-aunt Hoega's website
Thank you. For visiting

It is your birthday.
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gbate Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 09:49 AM
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51. Website and business for sale due to death in the family. Give them a break.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 10:33 AM
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52. I wonder if we'd be laughing....
..if they were amish or mennonite or hasidic or orthodox jews? Most of the words on that page and those pictures were ultimately no more outrageous than things I've seen worn and/or written by those other groups I mentioned and those denominations are peaceful and loving and typically exempt from any kind of mockery or snark on forums like our own DU here.

I mean I'm an atheist so I have no use for any religion whatsoever. And admittedly I didn't give the page a full and thorough reading. But on first glance at the pictures and the words it didn't strike me as anything more reprehensible or offensive than what I would imagine being worn by and believed in by those other groups. I mean I know more than a few Orthodox jewish families where the mother would have said or written more or less the same stuff with maybe some slightly different biblical references, and their clothing no more garish or stylish.
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gbate Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 11:45 AM
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53. I agree.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:07 PM
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54. If they were cataloging their daughters online, I would.
I don't have a problem with "modest dress". I think "modest dress + here's my five unmarried daughters, they're "always ready"" is hilariously ironic. Why don't we get to see the two unmarried sons? Find me an online forum of Amish/Mennonites/Hasidic Jews posting pictures of their martialable daughters, and I'll snark at that too.

And I don't have a problem with homeschooling except when it takes the form of typing out the Bible and is taught by someone whose writing would probably improve if it was run through Babelfish.

As to the "shame on you, they had a death in the family" crowd, they haven't updated the website in three years. When does the immunity from criticism for pimping your daughters wear off?
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:21 PM
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56. I see your point.......
..and again I am equal opportunity anti-religion. But the fact is that finding a suitable mate of a particular religious persuasion for one's daughter is a part of the culture of all of those other religions I mentioned. It may take slightly different, less outwardly worthy of mockery, but it ultimately is not different.

Yes, I'm not going to deny I personally found the page somewhat worthy of some snark. I was just fairly uncomfortable about it, particularly since there wasn't really anything hateful that I saw or any condemnation of others. And I'd really just assume mock the people and denominations who involve themselves in that type of judgemental, hateful garbage than I would something like this where a parent wants to find a mate of the same religion for their child to carry on whatever tradition they have.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 01:37 PM
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59. Fair enough.
I just think for society to progress we need to get over our lack of comfort with criticizing or mocking sexism, racism, homophobia and bigotry when it is wrapped up in religion.

To me, referring to your children as "this daughter" and "daughter six" without irony shows at least contempt. It's certainly not the worst, but it shouldn't really be defensible in modern society either.

Likewise, the whole "courtship" mom-and-dad (mostly dad) will find a Godly *man* for you and you *will* marry him should be wide-open for criticism.

Why shouldn't their daughters marry whomever they wish, regardless of that person's religion? Isn't it a universal human right to find your own spouse and not to have suitors solicited for you?

I totally respect where you're coming from and to some extent agree that they aren't really harming other people (besides their daughters). But I also think that it's essential that people recognize that "tradition" or "faith" should not be used to exempt certain behaviors which violate standards of human rights and respect that we would otherwise uphold.
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:16 PM
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55. This has got to be a spoof
please tell me it is.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 12:24 PM
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57. Nope. And there are more sites out there that are like that.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-08-09 02:15 PM
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60. What the fuck is wrong with this country??!!
:banghead:
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61. They probably contemplated burqas but bailed on the idea.
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