Okay, it's official in my book. The Gosselins suck!

[hamsterjill]

Beyond all else that is going on with this couple, now they've returned the two dogs they had adopted to the breeder.

See story at this link: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b144635_jon_gosselin_gives_up_family_dogs.html

Excerpt: "The Jon & Kate Plus 8 dad confirmed to E! News Wednesday night that he is returning his German shepherd puppies, Shoka and Nala, to their breeder. He says his estranged wife refuses to care for them when it's her turn to stay with the children at the family's Pennsylvania residence."

Okay, so if a pet owner is going to get rid of a pet, it is a responsible act for a pet owner to return that pet to the breeder. And it's the responsible thing for the breeder to take back the pet. I'll stipulate to that.

But...first of all, there were two cats mentioned in one of the episodes of John & Kate, the whereabouts of which have never been explained.

And now, in the midst of the divorce, all the fighting, all the turmoil, and certainly all of the insecurity the children are having to endure, the two adults can't even allow the children the stabilizing force of the two dogs?

There is some information being circulated that Kate's explanation is that one of the children is allergic to the dogs, but it is obvious that these dogs were never allowed inside that million dollar mansion, and the children have been seen in episodes playing with other dogs. I don't think that excuse has much merit. I imagine that the dogs are the collateral damage of the power struggle taking place between these two adults, and the fact that Kate is a cleanliness nut.

And that's very sad. This teaches the children that pets are merely throwaway items, and on top of that, takes away from the children the great comfort that can be derived from having a pet to care for, love, and that will love them back.

[Blue Diadem]

1. The Gosselin's saga is never ending.

It's sad that the kids are losing their dogs, especially so soon after their parents split up. Those kids are experiencing so much, I can't help but wonder how it will affect them in the future.

I read somewhere yesterday that the dad was sleeping with the babysitter they hired. The babysitter has come out with the entire story and apparently that's why the police were called in August when Kate showed up at the house. She'd found out that the sitter was staying overnight and didn't want her children being exposed to that.

[hamsterjill]

5. Drama sells, right?!!

I know the Pennsylvania Labor Board was investigating the work and pay arrangements for the children. I've not heard that any decision has been reached on that issue.

I have noticed that Kate has made a point in several interviews of saying that she's putting money away for the children. She's probably only now putting money away AFTER the investigation, and in order to deflect criticism, etc.

I can't imagine what the emotional toll of all of this is going to be on those children. I mean, first their very lives are touted across the world for all to see, intimate moments, etc., and now the parents are mud-slinging publicly, probably more intently than normal couples, because the mud-slinging boosts ratings!

[Blue Diadem]

11. It's just crazy.

I'm not sure if either one of them are even thinking about the kids.

There was one show I saw earlier this year, when one of the dogs swallowed a kid toy and had to have surgery. When the vet let the pup go home, he told Jon to keep the dog quiet etc. Once home, Jon put the dog out to run loose and play with the other dog and said they were outside dogs anyway. It really ticked me off that he seemed to not care about the dog or what the vet had told him.

I know it must be painful for the kids to lose their dogs but I do think it's the best thing for the pooches.

[Bunny]

2. He's out whoring around Manhattan, while she just got a new TV show, or so I've heard.

Which makes me wonder who in the hell is raising those kids? Haven't they earned enough money off the backs of their children to can stay home and actually raise them?

Thank god they sent the dogs back to the breeder. It's the best possible thing for those puppies.

[hamsterjill]

3. I agree for the dogs' sake.

But I feel for the children who will most certainly miss having the companionship of the dogs!

Mostly, I hate it when people take having pets lightly.

[WildEyedLiberal]

16. They take having kids lightly - why not pets?

[hamsterjill]

18. Point taken!

You know...you're absolutely right!

[LynneSin]

4. If you were married to that nagging, self-proming hag - you'd whore around too

I've only watched a few shows and not by choice (my family had it on one time while I was visiting for the holidays). She is a horrible person who belittled him all the time. She got what she deserved

[hamsterjill]

6. She is pretty bad!

I've seen her demean him many times on camera. I can imagine that the anger was building up in him for some time. But, he hasn't been an angel either since the separation.

[Bunny]

7. I don't care how nagging or haggish she is.

The kids are not getting what they deserve, and that pisses me off. Neither of these parents want to grow up and actually raise their kids, with the privacy and dignity that the children deserve.

[charlie and algernon]

8. I saw a clip on The Soup

where Kate was talking into the camera and two of the kids come up to ask her a question and she waves them away. Then she turns to the camera and says how difficult they are!

:wtf:

Those poor kids are just her get-rich sceme. She couldn't give a rats ass about them.

[Bunny]

9. She really is a dreadful person, in so many ways.

[LynneSin]

10. Best thing for those kids is to 'return' them too

I'm sure there would be no problem finding families to adopt those children. Families who would put the kids first and not their careers.

[Bunny]

12. That wouldn't be a bad idea.

Fame and fortune can really mess with your head.

[Arugula Latte]

13. They should have the sense to shut the f@#$ up and deal with their crap in private.

They don't seem to care that all their horrid behavior will be stored on the Internet for decades to come, and their children will be able to read all about Daddy's affairs and Mommy's rages.

[hamsterjill]

17. Not to mention being twelve and have a friend show potty training video

Can you imagine the teasing that could occur as the children age and other children use childhood footage to torment them? There were several episodes where Kate referred to the potty training of the boys as difficult, and referred to the boys as "dirty", too. Her comments are complete with video of the young boys potty training for all of America to see. The girls were filmed, too.

And yeah, we all have that embarrassing baby picture where Aunt Vesta caught us in the bathtub with a big grin, but that picture isn't likely going to be on youtube!

[Shell Beau]

22. Exactly. It is a shame. What will this do to all of those children in the

long run? This whole show was messed up from the get go. I never watched. I have opinions on both parents just from what I have seen on the news. Whether or not any of that stuff is true, the ones that will suffer from all of this will be those children. As evil as both parents "may" be, those children don't need to read about it in magazines or watch it on the news. It has become a spectacle. It was bad enough when they were still together, but now that they are getting a divorce, it is like who can put out the worst image of the other one. It is just GROSS.

[gbate]

14. They shouldn't have dogs, especially intelligent ones like German Shepherds.

These people cannot possibly dedicate enough time to caring for such an animal. Maybe someone who really loves them will adopt them.

[LynneSin]

15. Kinda hoping someone would do that with the kids

:shrug:

[Franzia]

19. Jon & Kate = Breeders.

From their selfish actions, it appears that they are not thinking of and do not care about their children. Jon and Kate have enriched themselves at their children's expense.

I feel sorry for the kids.

[JeanGrey]

20. Not her. HIM. She was on the View all week so I expected

him to find a way to keep this going. Every time I see him I want to throw up.

[tigereye]

21. I like your kind points...

well-said. I like how you are concerned about the effects of loss on the kids. It must be so hard for those children.


:thumbsup:

[Shell Beau]

23. I must say it is best for those dogs. It may not be best for the kids, but

nothing their parents are doing these days seems to be in their best interest. This whole thing has turned into a big ole mess. I never watched the show, but I know many who did. They loved the whole thing. WEll, look where it is now. None of this can be good for those children. I am sure just seeing your parents divorce is tough enough, but to have this whole circus surrounding it is vile. And both parents seem to invite the circus. So sad for these kids.

[Jade Fox]

24. Who ARE these people??????

And why do we care about them?

No--don't tell me. I don't want to know.

[madeline_con]

25. If the kids treated the dogs the way treat each other, the dogs are better off.

[busybl]

26. I've been telling people since the beginning,

that guy looks like he'd rather be anywhere but there. They'd be sitting on the couch, she'd be talking and he'd be looking like he's thinking "kill me now".

[proteus_lives]

27. Fame whores.

I feel bad for the kids.