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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:32 PM
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What's the difference between a truss hanger and a joist hanger
and do they make either one in angles other than 90 degrees?

I am thinking of making a chicken coop and using some sort of doohickey to anchor a plywood roof on. The roof is not going to be flat, so 90 degrees won't work, and my carpentry skills are poor, so properly notching or angling the wood might be out of my league.

What's the suggested hardware for the job? Or am I doomed to failure by going this route?

Thanks. :hi:
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suninvited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:45 PM
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1. I tried to build a rabbit hutch once
even though I didn't know a damn thing about carpentry. And still don't. (so I can't answer your question, unfortunately).

We came into the rabbit by accident. I literally jumped a fence and pulled the rabbit out of a Rottweilers mouth, and he needed a home. The rabbit, not the Rottweiler.

My family still (affectionately, I think) refers to that hutch as "the rabbit condo".

Good luck!!!
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:48 PM
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2. Trusses are roof members,
Edited on Fri Sep-18-09 04:51 PM by rrneck
joists are floor members.

The Simpson catalog is here (pdf). If it ain't here I don't know where it is.

http://www.strongtie.com/

Maybe a hurricane tie or something like that? You might go to the hardware store and get plain old "L" brackets or some "plumbers strap".
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 04:55 PM
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3. I dig the shaking-table videos
My mom used to work for Earthquake Engineering Research Center, and on the days when they shook something to failure it was practically an office-wide party. :D
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:09 PM
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4. a truss is a built up combination of rafters/joist

You might want to build trusses on the ground, and then just lift them up and into position. Then "strap" (also a Simpson product) them down rather than "hang" them.

But yes, if you get into a joist or truss hanging situation, Simpson makes most any angle you would want. Problem is in most cases, you still need to cut the basic angle (though you probably don't have to perfect the cut nearly as well).
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 05:18 PM
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5. I built a chicken coop some years ago.
I just started putting plywood walls together, then slapped a roof on and tightened things up until everything stood up. It still stands today, the lack of scientific planning notwithstanding.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:16 PM
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6. An A-frame is probably the simplest design
Yes, you'll need to get a mitre box of some sort if you don't have one, but a non-powered one is not all that expensive at your local hardware store.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 10:53 PM
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7. just use baling wire
jebus :eyes:



















:rofl:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:02 PM
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8. You want the chicken coop to be built
better than the house?
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 02:08 PM
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11. god, mine is
fricking coop is nukular bomb proof - was going to build it out of scraps from the metal roof when the house got done - ended up spending 500 $ on exterior grade plywood and more steel, framing, concrete for the floor etc. It was definitely built better than this old house!
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:21 PM
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9. Free plan Online
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 11:22 PM
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10. 'The lintels next to the lally columns — you want they should be rabbeted?'




"It sounded less expensive to say no."



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tainted_chimp Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:49 PM
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13. 'Blandings' was the 1st thing to pop in my mind too!
Edited on Sat Sep-19-09 04:51 PM by tainted_chimp
:toast:

:hi:



*edited to add ham*
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 02:19 PM
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12. Goole Simpson hangers. Never mind, I did it for you
They have every type of hanger or structural wood connector you can imagine. I'm sure you will find what you are looking for, even if you don't yet know you are looking for it.

http://www.strongtie.com/
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 08:16 PM
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14. Yep, I found some at Lowes that allowed for angles....
I'm building a shelter for the baler and though I didn't need the hanger described, I did see them. I using materials from the barn I tore down earlier in the summer, and the hangers were the only things I needed to buy other than nails. In a chicken coop, free form is fine, but your absolutely must make it skunk, possum and racoon proof. Do not underestimate their ability to tear apart, squeeze in and kill.

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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 11:26 PM
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15. Well, we certainly have skunks, possums, and raccoons
I was thinking of running a hot wire around the veggie garden to keep predators out.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 02:52 AM
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16. You could probably...
simply screw a 2x4 to the top of each wall (along the edge) after they are up, then screw the plywood roof into them as well. On the outside, so you get some kind of eave effect.


This way you can just measure and cut!
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