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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:26 PM
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Having a philosophical moment here... In what way was Frankenstein's creature not a zombie?
He seems to fit all the criteria for being a zombie, save his lack of hunger for brains. Can we do a Venn diagram on this?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:54 PM
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1. A zombie I believe has to be bitten or kissed by another zombie,
if I understand correctly, or of course receive a zombie
transfusion from a sloppy hospital. Technically, you could
build a Frankenstein zombie from different zombie body parts.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:56 PM
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2. So where does the first zombie come from?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:14 PM
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3. The original zombie cell very likely came from some experimental union
of human and thing, from animal to alien to object such as
table, at atom level, then preserved over time in a cell tube,
dandruff, sperm, etc., or mutant stain of caveman and type of
dinosaur. The basic urge is similar to vampire narcissism, but
zombies themselves have no nutrition in their cells, and so
have to eat non-zombies. That is why you never see zombies
eat each other. Zombies cannot think for themselves but
have only one urge to communicate with their teeth. Also
they have to keep eating because they have hydrochloric
acid in their stomach which dissolves food before it can
be turned into nutrition, that is why you never see a
zombie taking a dump.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 04:15 PM
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12. The Young Republicans. nt
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:15 PM
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4. I can think of a few reasons why he's not a zombie.
Now these admittedly are going to be technicalities, but there are rules.

1. Zombies have to be infected or created by a specific cause (usually a virus, radiation, or magic). Outside of the states cause they would not be considered a zombie.

2. A zombie must be able to spread their zombieism through a bite. Frankenstein can't do that.

3. Zombies don't heal. Frankenstein does.

4. Zombies crave human flesh or brains. Frankenstein doesn't.

5. Zombie flesh decomposes. Frankenstein will not decompose unless he dies.

6. Zombies can only be killed through damage to the brain. Frankenstein can be killed in any number of ways.

7. Zombies are the reanimated corpse of a single individual. Frankenstein is a composite.

8. Zombies have no other concern other than the consumption of human flesh or brains. Frankenstein has myriad concerns.

A better question would be: Would zombies attack Frankenstein?
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:41 PM
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5. "Would zombies attack Frankenstein?"
Probably. Because Frankenstein shows intelligence. He has a "working" brain, instead of whatever it is that keeps zombies upright.

Now what about the question "Would a zombie bite/scratch be enough to infect Frankenstein, or could he be infected?"

Does the same hold true for Frankenstein's bride? ;)
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:10 PM
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6. F's creature was absolutely not a zombie. Believe me, I should know.
:beer:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:16 PM
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7. I thought you needed a voodoo curse in order to become a zombie.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:21 PM
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8. No. Zombiism is caused by a virus. Takes a bite.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:31 PM
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9. You learn something new every day. It turns out that there are two different kinds
of zombies: voodoo zombies and modern zombies.

A zombie is a creature that appears in folklore and popular culture typically as a reanimated corpse or a mindless human being. Stories of zombies originated in the Afro-Caribbean spiritual belief system of Vodou, which told of the people being controlled as laborers by a powerful sorcerer....

Modern zombies, as portrayed in books, films, games, and haunted attractions, are different from both voodoo zombies and those of folklore. Modern zombies are typically depicted in popular culture as mindless, unfeeling monsters with a hunger for human flesh, a prototype established in the seminal 1968 film Night of the Living Dead. Typically, these creatures can sustain damage far beyond that of a normal, living human. Generally these can only be killed by a wound to the head, such as a headshot, and can pass whatever syndrome that causes their condition onto others.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie

But I don't think Frankenstein's monster falls into either category.
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dembotoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:27 AM
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10. zombies watch fox news, frankie is more of an espn kind of guy
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:42 AM
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11. FM is alive, not undead.
There is a difference.

Dr Frankenstein's goal is to create a creature who has life, albeit from previously alive parts of other people. The Monster has a personality and a conscience. That's something you can't say of a zombie.

/lit geek.
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