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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 04:37 PM
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Was there ever a time when you were right, in spite of many others who thought otherwise?
Explain the situation.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:12 PM
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1. Do you mean other than every day at work?
I have 43 people in my department, of whom I'm the director. Not a day goes by in which in some way someone isn't questioning why/how/when/where we do things. I get more respect outside our building than inside it.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:36 PM
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12. That can be rough
I have been in management, and I can't say I miss it.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:14 PM
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2. Back in the early '70s, I told my family that Nixon was a crook.
They became rather indignant and refused to believe me...
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:36 PM
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13. Did they ever admit their mistake?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:43 PM
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17. Eventually, after he resigned.
Except for my great aunt, who had a sort of shrine to him in her living room. She was convinced that he had been framed. :rofl:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:49 AM
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29. Same here. I thought 'Watergate' was a serious crime from the git-go.
All of my friends went the 'third-rate burglary...they all do it' route.
I was right.
:-)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:17 PM
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3. 1975. Dallas at Minnesota and the "Hail Mary".
Yeap!

:D

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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:20 PM
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4. Yeah, in October of 02 when they were ginning up support for the Iraq War
It seemed like I was the only one around who could see the propaganda for what it was. Felt like Cassandra, knowing Troy would burn, but unable to get anyone else to listen to her.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:39 PM
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14. I felt the same way
I remember reading the Newsweek article where a top Iraqi operative (who Saddam later had killed) told the US intelligence agencies there were no WMDs
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:52 PM
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22. Welcome to DU
:P
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pink-o Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 11:08 AM
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36. Thank you. But I've been here since that October I mentioned in my post!
I was laid-up after a really bad bicycle accident where I (no lie!) fell and broke the inside of my pelvic bone. So with nothing else to do, I spent hours surfing the web, found the propaganda campaign re Iraq and also found DU. I don't post that much, since other people seem to articulate my ideas just fine on this board, but I'm definitely here reading on a daily basis. You guys helped me thru some dark days, believe it!
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:51 PM
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23. Same here. The day GWB was inaugurated
I told the GWB supporters at work we will be at war in less than a year.
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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:21 PM
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5. There Was This Lady...
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 08:23 PM by GirlAfire
...who'd come to our (mom's, sister's, and my) home almost every night. I knew she was a drug addict, and while I don't hold that all drug addicts are evil, I warned my mom about her. I always had a funny feeling about her. Apparently, my mom and the girl had known each other since they were children. Then, she started bringing over another friend of hers who was also a drug addict. I had a REALLY funny feeling about her, even worse than the one I had about the first girl.

She asked my mom for money, and when my mom said no, she said, "Come on. You know you have money in your house somewhere." I was just irate. No means no. Plus, I don't really like the thought of someone addicted to drugs fantasizing over money that may or may not be in my home. I mean, she spoke as if she were entitled to whatever money we may have had.

I warned and warned my mother about these girls, but she's never listen... that is, until the husband of the first girl murdered someone. He actually beat a man's skull in. It was all over the news.

I still feel unsafe. She knows where we live. She came back two nights in a row, and my mom wouldn't answer (because she's finally scared). But she knew we were at home.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:40 PM
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15. Sounds like your mom needs are restraining order
issued
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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:11 PM
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19. I Second That
These women are crazy! I just don't feel safe.
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Madrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:23 PM
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6. OMG
More times than I can count. No specific examples - we'd be here all day.

I am VERY lucky, however, in that I have earned respect amongst those that REALLY know me and am never doubted by those who that matter. That's not to say that we don't, at times, agree to disagree - but we do so with respect for one another's opinion.

Except at work. I just keep continuing to prove them wrong!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:24 PM
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7. i'm ALWAYS right
even when i'm wrong
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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:25 PM
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8. Haha
I'm new, but I get this feeling that you are the funny person on these boards. Every time I see a post of yours, it makes me laugh. Are you the DU "class clown"? :D
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:26 PM
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9. i haven't posted all day today.
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GirlAfire Donating Member (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:27 PM
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10. No, I Mean...
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 08:28 PM by GirlAfire
...I've seen other posts of yours while reading other threads.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:30 PM
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11. Often, because I tend to be very independent.
Of course, now and then I have been wrong under the same circumstances & at those times, humility is appropriate.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:41 PM
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16. good approach
:hi:
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 03:45 AM
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27. Ditto
Ditto
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 08:46 PM
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18. Don't get me started...
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 08:48 PM by NNadir
I live now totally on the words of the British scientist (and historian of science) David Brewster:

...the keenness of his temper, his clear perception of the truth and his indistinguishable love of it, combined to exasperate and prolong the hostility of his enemies. When argument failed to enlighten their judgment and reason to dispel their prejudices, he wielded against them his powerful weapons of ridicule and sarcasm; and in his unrelenting warfare, he seems to have forgotten that Providence had withheld from his enemies those very gifts which had so liberally received...


It sounds impossibly arrogant, I know, for me to quote this in this context, and I know also that there are fundamental ways in which my mind is small and provincial, but on the other hand, although I've only seen a fraction of what I have wanted to see, and known just a mote of what I wanted to know, I feel perfectly well justified in wielding such weapons of ridicule of which Brewster speaks.

Some ignorance is deliberate and some ignorance glories in itself.

When I was young and afraid of dying, I tried to reassure myself by telling myself that to be certain of death was to understand that one will get out of whatever trouble one finds oneself in.

"...perchance to dream..."

Now, though, I have children, and it breaks my heart that the consequences of my generation's life will fall on theirs, no matter that I will personally escape it. With all the knowledge available in these times, speaking of humanity as a whole, we are as myopic as the generation that experienced the black death. It seems to me that these have been exceptionally stupid times, where we have everything from Bill O'Reilly controlling a big microphone on the right and the mirror on the left, well, never mind...

...ethically there are some things that cannot and should not be acknowledged...

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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:13 PM
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20. I used to have many arguments with the engineers when I worked in a software library
We were part of the development process and would be the drop off point for the new products. When I gave notice, one of the engineers told me that another (who was a very annoying, argumentative person) told him that he hated to see me go. His reason: "She really knew what she was doing. Whenever there was a question about something, she always turned out to be right." I found that to be very high praise indeed, if accompanied by many battle scars.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:51 AM
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33. If they had shown that appreciation while you were there
would you still have left?
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:11 AM
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34. Yes, because I had an idiot boss who was making me physically ill
Sadly, I had been at the company for 13 years at the time I left. :(
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 10:15 PM
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21. frequently...
I live and work with GOPers. They're might be all of five black West-Indian-descent Republicans in all of Brooklyn, but dammit if there are only five...then I work with all five.

Today, it was "Single-payer would kill small businesses." We know this because virtually every small business organization, including the beyond-ostensibly-conservative ones, supports the idea of a single-payer system...oh wait. That makes no sense...it must actually be because a single-payer system would actually remove the massive non-productive expense that most every small business in America that offers health-coverage is being crushed by.

Last week, it was "Sarah Palin graduated cum-laude." Actually, no...she didn't.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:54 PM
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24. I said a year ago there will never be
national health care in the USA, the insurance companies will prevent it.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 12:33 AM
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25. No. Even when I think I'm right, I just try real hard until I know I'm wrong... (nt)
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 03:14 AM
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26. Iraq. I don't think I need to explain.
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 03:17 AM by UrbScotty
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 06:32 AM
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28. My boss said "It's not like the average person will have a PC in their home."
It was the old days of mainframes and the PC was a novelty. The boss was really into the latest tech gadgets and he paid outrageous sums for things when they were only available to geeks in that world.

My mind was running wild with all of the information you could store and have easy access to (like a legal library, engineering codes, etc.) A foodie from way back, I imagined having access to all of my recipes in one place on a computer. And then my boss said the aforementioned.

The rest is history. :)

Anyone remember APL?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:32 AM
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30. What was APL?
Well there was the equally important creation of the internet, that gave the computer a whole new dimension (and perhaps the most important one). Computers went form data storage and processing to portals to the internet.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:35 AM
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31. I can think of one instance here in Australia
In 1993 we had national elections during which I supported the conservative opposition party as opposed to the centre-left government of the day. The conservative Opposition Leader at the time was seen as as a radical right-wing ideologue and to some extent he was but I liked him because he was somewhat of the equivalent to a liberal Republican on social and foreign policy issues. I kept urging my family and friends to vote for him and I warned them "if you don't vote for him and he loses, you'll get something much worse". But no-one listened to me and he lost. Since losing, the conservative Opposition Leader that I supported has gone on the record as a vocal critic of the * Administration and the Iraq War, a trenchant critic of our former government's racist immigration policies and he even played a role in starting up the Australian equivalent to the American MoveOn organization. And, sure enough, three years later we got a conservative Prime Minister who was a lot worse

When that election came around in 1996, our then Opposition Leader John Howard was projecting the image of a moderate, compassionate politician who would always put the people first and who had repudiated his racist image of the past. I never believed his crap for a moment but I was amazed, at fifteen years old, how many adults who should have known better accepted his nonsense and took him at face value. Even some experienced political veterans were fooled. I kept telling them again and again and again that this leopard hadn't changed its spots and that he would be a horrible Prime Minister but again everyone just seemed to ignore all the evidence in front of them and they voted for him. And he was every bit as bad and indeed much worse than I had predicted. It gave me absolutely no pleasure to be vindicated in my assessment.

The second time I had been proven right on the issue, several of my family and friends actually began taking me seriously and respecting my political judgment. By then, though, it was too late
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 07:41 AM
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32. Yeah, I predicted that whole internet thing (remember that?) would never catch on
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:19 AM
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35. Yes, in March of '03 when the US invaded Poland, I mean Iraq. nt
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