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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:11 AM
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Seriously , I need to find out whether when you put vodka in the freezer,
the non-alcohol freezes and the alcohol stays liquid, allowing you to pour off the alcohol. I'm looking for an example of a drop in solubility with temperature drop to illustrate this process for a class of adults.
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newcriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:23 AM
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1. I'm not a big drinker, but I don't think alcohol freezes at all.
I have had a bottle of jagermeister in the freezer for about two years now and none of it is frozen. It's just very cold when I do decide I want some.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:37 AM
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2. Farmers used to take hard cider and set it out in a snow bank.
The water would freeze, but the alcohol wouldn't. The farmers were able to pour off the apple flavored alcohol and bottle it as apple jack. I'm wondering if placing vodka in the freezer allows people to pour off the alcohol and discard the flavored water.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:39 AM
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3. I've never had the non-alcohol in vodka freeze. But I DO know how you can test this!
Beer. The best way to do it is with one of those liquid-filled mugs you put in the freezer. When you pour beer into it, the water ices up on the inside edge of the mug. After a short period, you can pour off the remaining liquid and by volume it will be much higher in alcohol content. Obviously the total amount doesn't change, but the volume is dramatically reduced so the concentration is much higher. Use something light in color with the alcohol content printed on the can (like Keystone Ice, 5.2% I think).

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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:40 AM
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4. anecdotal evidence only
The vodka I kept in the freezer did not freeze, not a drop.
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Mugu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:43 AM
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5. No ice in the vodka that I keep in my freezer. n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:03 AM
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6. Dang! That means I have to come up with another example!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:09 AM
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7. Hard liquor like vodka, rum, tequilla
won't freeze. Wine will though.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 09:11 AM
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8. No. That's why Russians put their bottles in plastic bags and hang them out the window in winter.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:28 AM
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9. You could try this:
Get the vodka as cold as you can get it. Have some small flakes of ice ready to use. Pour the vodka into a wide mouth glass. Immediately drop some of the ice flakes into the glass. The ice flakes will attract what water is in the vodka...remove these quickly and repeat the process until much of the water content is gone.

Worked for the Luftwaffe at some of their parties.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:53 AM
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10. you need some dry ice. of course alcohol freezes. it just doesn't freeze
at the usual temperatures of home freezers. anybody stay awake in science classes here?
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 10:57 AM
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11. Exactly. You need some industrial freezers to do this.
Also, just fyi, if you're looking to freeze vodka so you can pour off the water and have a stronger vodka, alcohol-wise, be aware that is known as "freeze distilling" and the BATF takes a VERY DIM view of those who do it without a license.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 12:51 PM
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17. you wouldn't pour off the water - THAT is what freezes
you want to pour off the alcohol
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 02:01 PM
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20. Yes, my error. You are correct.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:11 AM
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13. Between 0 and -114 C depending on the amount of alcohol in it
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_freezing_temperature_of_alcohol
So yeah, most normal freezers aren't going to work with Vodka.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 12:33 PM
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15. The idea is to freeze the water, then pour the liquid alcohol off.
It works with hard cider, so I was wondering if it worked with vodka and that's why people put vodka in the freezer.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:36 PM
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18. no, i get it. but
i have no idea why people put vodka in the freezer. it doesn't freeze at those temps.
your idea is sound, but you need to figure out what the correct temperature is. dry ice is one way to get a lower temp than a home freezer. liquid nitrogen is another.
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yawnmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 01:40 PM
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19. very cold vodka goes down very smooth eom
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:39 PM
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36. You betcha! I keep some stout 'potato wine' from Poland in the freezer
and for the holidays, a bottle of buffalo grass vodka to keep it company. Both are fine icey cold vodkas.

I drink my tonic straight. No point fouling good 'potato wine' with the stuff ;)

Herring?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 02:24 PM
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21. I mashed my words in the OP because I was thinking of
freezing out the alcohol, not freezing it. In any case, I'm not really trying to freeze vodka, just trying to find out if this is a common practice.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:08 AM
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12. In a regular home freezer, the vodka will get sorta syrupy but not freeze solid. NT
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:38 PM
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28. That's kinda the point
the texture changes and it's really smooth
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:36 PM
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34. Yep. Frozen Stoli, mmmmmmm.
:thumbsup:
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 11:11 AM
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14. NO CHANGE IN ALCOHOL % IF PUT IN THE FREEZER.
N/T
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 12:36 PM
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16. it will not freeze at all
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:09 PM
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22. I believe you're correct...
I can vouch for the fact that I have some tequila + triple sec in the fridge, and it's not even remotely slushy. My guess is that pure vodka was react the same.
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:01 PM
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25. as my nickname in school was Vodka Amy
I can vouch for that, heading to the packy in a bit, do think it is necessary to stock up and help out with the experiment. I would be glad to. As it is for a job, the alcohol would be a write off, correct?
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:37 PM
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27. Yes, you can write it off since it's for a scientific experiment
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Rising Phoenix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 05:59 PM
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29. kick ass as I just bought two cases
:evilgrin:

not really, just drinking some sams winter......
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 07:14 PM
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30. Vodka Amy?
God, I wish I had known you in college! On the other hand, maybe I did and neither of us remember it!

:rofl:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:14 PM
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23. I vaguely remember from my misbegotten youth that beer in a snowbank
when it is @ -15F or lower gets pretty slushy. Consult a Minnesota teen for an update.
Ergo, it seems to depend on the amount of alcohol present.
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arbusto_baboso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 03:42 PM
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24. What you CAN do in a common fridge is freeze mead....
and pour off the alcohol, leaving the ice for disposal.

It produces what the Norse used to call "King's mead" which is about the strength of a hard liquor rather than a wine/mead.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 07:58 PM
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32. Wine too
:9
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 04:03 PM
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26. Vodka, no...But!
I have seen a glass of Dr. McGillicuddy's (or whatever it's called) do this. My friend didn't finish his drink and left it out in subzero temperatures on our smoking porch last new years, and a few days later, my roommates and I noticed that the alcohol had frozen out. It was pretty neat.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 07:57 PM
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31. It would be nice to get rid of the impurities and just leave the alcohol that way.
:)

My vodka doesn't freeze in the freezer. The lid will freeze onto the bottle sometimes, but that's probably just moisture in the air in the freezer.
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Sheltiemama Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:34 PM
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33. Martha Stewart does this.
It gets kind of syrupy.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:38 PM
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35. IT DEPENDS on the brand and type of vodka!!
If I put my flavored Stoli in the freezer; the non-alcohol seems to freeze and the alcohol seems to stay liquid. I believe this is due to the lower percentage of alcohol in that kind. In my regular non-flavored Stoli; it all stays liquid.

Other brands and types freeze (or don't) differently. I use Stoli mainly.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-11-09 08:44 PM
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37. Vodka will not freeze.
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