Rabrrrrr, we are not alone

[Deja Q]

http://www.startrekmovie.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6380

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[kentauros]

1. Hay!

You do remember I'm not in the Abrams-fawning crowd either, right? :P

[Deja Q]

2. Please accept my apologies

:hug:

I just remembered Rabrrrrr the most... and if I got the spelling of his name wrong, chances are I'll be hearing about that and rightly so... :blush:

[kentauros]

3. Sure, no problemo!

:hi:

Of course, both you and him are quite good at waxing so very eloquently on the problems with this "remake". Of course, I would love to excise the use of "reboot" because of the fact that when you reboot your computer, it isn't drastically changed from when you shut it down last ;)

I'm reading that thread over there now. One counter argument I thought of for those that reply with the standard "It's just a movie. Get over it." is that they should have absolutely no problem with anyone tearing the movie apart. Because, after-all, it's just a movie :P

[Deja Q]

6. Thanks!

:D

You're right, if it is "just a movie", why are they so adamant that nobody heckle it? Oopsie-doodles... Great counter-argument on your part, there! :D

And it is just a movie. I hope they remember that for when they find a movie they like and, having stalked them online, get a chance to rip the same movie apart and use the same b.s. excuse of "it's just a movie".

And that's the problem. "it's just a movie". Nobody puts care into anything. Except the special effects. And those don't make a movie. But then, since when are movies supposed to be cherished? They're as much marketed, disposable fodder just like the people who go and see it.

[Call Me Wesley]

4. I love this reply:

"Have a movie that was completely faithful to TOS, but not as good of a movie?"

Yes, you can't make a good movie faithful to TOS. I mean, not with JJ, he just couldn't do it. No one else could have done it, well, not JJ. Others may be, but they weren't asked, so suck it up and enjoy Vulcan begone and the new timeline, which gives us the opportunity of twice the merchandise!

[Deja Q]

5. Well, an entity must be faithful unto itself. Not appease every Tom, Dick, and Henrietta.

There are many ways to respond to that quote - I like yours, but at the same time the product placements, totally different mannerisms of the cast (and the BAD jokes that made trek V seem a totally serious affair by comparison), and so on. NuTrek is a pastiche.

I'm still on the fence, solely because they used the "alternate universe" trick. I usually prefer that trope when it's the SAME characters having to be "fish out of water". It's never been applied to established characters, save for Trek's "Mirror, Mirror" where we get a glimpse of the alternate-reality Kirk and crew and kept in their own dimension at the end.

The rebooted characters and situation are nothing like Gene's vision.

Even the worst in Trek VI (a duplicitous president, et al) seem more true Trek and we all know Gene's vision would NOT have the President, Federation, or anyone else conspiring to do illegal and/or nasty things!

As stock fiction, NuTrek does work. But it's not "Star Trek" in any recognizable form, apart from the trademarked images.

[Rabrrrrrr]

7. "There is no way this is a 'reboot' it's simply a POORLY WRITTEN POS" - ROFL!

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Perfect!!

And yes, you did spell my name wrong. :mad: