Videogamers...your pet peeves.

[Archae]

When you play a videogame, what annoys you?

Here's my list:

1. Music that's annoying, and can't be shut off.

2. A really grating voice of a character.

3. Camera trouble, like when something is going on and all you can see is wall.

4. Huge intervals between save points.

5. Enemies (ordinary or bosses) that are nearly impossible to kill, and can wipe you out with one blow.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. Sports games where you can kick ass at...

until the final championship whatever and the computer always wins.

[Archae]

2. Mike Tyson's "Punch Out," right?

:-)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. Punch out was entirely beatable.

Punch out was more of a puzzle game than a sports game. It always involved figuring out tricks for each opponent.

I'm thinking of some hockey game for PSX where I had unbeaten season then lost every game for the Stanley Cup.

And then one of the Fight Nights. Round 3, I think. For the final belt you could just absolutely beat the guy down and no matter how hard you fucked him up you'd eventually lose.

[Danger Mouse]

16. Still, Mike Tyson/Mr. Dream is a beast to get through.

[ContraBass Black]

52. Take a look at this:

Note: Heavy profanity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr69huqkjTk


:P

[MilesColtrane]

4. Call of Duty: World at War on veteran...

Almost at the end of the game, when you're part of the Red Army storming the Riechstag, enemies are constantly respawning and raining grenades down on you in handfuls.

The only way to advance to a check point is to pick up a bazooka and destroy an anti-aircraft gun. You get one shot, one rocket in the tube.

I've nailed it at point blank range from every possible angle, and hit every possible different part of the gun almost a hundred times and it never destroys the gun, thus leaving the game "stuck" so that you can't advance and finish the game.

It's got to be some kind of bug particular to the XboX version, and it pisses me off.

[Archae]

5. Found this at "Gamefaqs"

Starting off you just got out of the subway and need to take the steps
of the Reich, once you have control head to the left until you appear
outside the enemies stronghold. Rush in to the front and take cover and
make your way around it while running from the occasional grenade spam.
Once you have reached the corner go behind the building to the left that
dash down the front. You will see a window, there is a sniper in here
kill him, than as you turn the corner to the left kill the 3 or 4
Germans outside, hug the right wall and keep your eye on the broken hole
in the wall that lets you see in the building, there will be a German
right by the entry way and 2 more inside, kill them than head on out and
into the next building.

The building is covered with books and bookshelves all torn down, so
just rush in and around killing the Germans at the end hiding by the
desks. There is a lot of cover here, but you need to head up around the
right, once you eliminated them all, head outside in the trench and into
the tunnel for the second part of the mission.

Here you will need to eliminate 4 flak cannon crews, and this is really
difficult since you only get a checkpoint after taking out 2 but here is
my method after lots of trial and error the best way to do this is.

Immediately head right, use the wall by the tank for cover, than head
right to the steps along side the wall, you'll see a broken chunk out of
the wall which you can use to climb up. Once your on top prone and kill
the enemies to your right while slowly making your way up, you should
see the flak cannon dead ahead, throw a grenade and take out your gun
and pick off the enemies still surrounding it. Than move up, tricky
thing is sometimes an enemy is just hiding right behind the flak88 and
as you make your way to the cannon he jumps out and will shoot at you,
so take caution. The next troublesome part is you can't prone up to the
Flak88 you have to walk up allowing you to get shot from the other
10,000 Nazis here. So get up there, plant the charge and rush back down
and make a right to the tank.

Here you can pick up a Panzershreks, use this to peak out and take out
the Flak88 to the left of you, you will now have a checkpoint and have
to head forward to take out 2 other flak88. Your going to take out the
left Flak 88, so proceed up, just keep running for cover from the
grenades, but head to the left near the flak88 you should find some
barrels/boxes for some decent cover from fire. You just need to watch
your upper right where the enemies are coming in from the building, head
on up the steps and keep an eye out on the top of the building there
might be a sniper so kill him. Once your on top crawl near the fence
right by the flak88 and eliminate the crew, once it seems clear, rush
down and plant the explosives on it, than head right using cover
to regain your speed.

Now keep heading to the last one, Reznov should be taking cover right
here, so crawl and peek around the corner and take out the flak88 crew.
Once they have been eliminated slowly but not too slow get over there to
plant the explosives, now run back to your cover. Once they Flak88 have
been destroyed you will get another checkpoint and now have to proceed
up the German stronghold before the steps of the Reichstag.

This is pretty hard, but I found out a really easy way to do it on my
second time through. When you get your checkpoint, make sure you have
the Kar98k than head behind and on top of the building behind you. You
can pick off a good majority of the enemies here and there is a moment
when they stop spawning. So once you cleared enough to make it through
the buildings without a problem head forward to the right building. Head
inside and up the stairs, here you can find your self a panzershreks and
a PTRs sniper rifle, use this to pick off the people on the steps that
*you* can go up, not the ones on the left. If you kill enough people
here Reznov will tell your men to move forward and you will get a much
needed checkpoint.

Your basically going to do the same thing here, but before you do head
outside and to your right and look up you should see some sandbags and a
guy held up here. Kill him, than go back into the building and go all
the way to the back and snipe off people until your out of ammo, make
sure you don't keep killing the infinite respawns guys. Just pick off
the people in the building or held up by the building. Once you kill
some of them focus on the stairways defense and take them out. Now head
down stairs and up the stairway prone going to cover to cover. When
Reznov says, "Move Forward" go back downstairs and continue the same
thing. He will than ask you to come over, head back up the steps, a
pillar should fall down, go all the way down the stairs.

A Nazi with a flamethrower will torch Chernov and once he is dead go
with Reznov into the Reichstag, and this will end the level.

This is a horrendous level made from the depth of hell, it's really hard
to do even for the second or third time for me, it took about an hour to
finally figure out a strategy that now works constantly. Checkpoints are
weird after you destroy the Flak88 since my first time I got a
checkpoint when I went into the building, this time I had to destroy a
good amount of their forces to get a checkpoint. Either way, I'm done
with this level and so are you, now the final level approaches us.

-Edit-

Also, during the part where you need to take out the 2 flak88, I
previously thought they only gave you one Panzershrek, but there are 2.
The second one is right along the side of the stairs to the building
that leads to the right upper right Flak88, so you could technically
take out both further away flak88 with the panzershrek fire, the video
doesn't show the second one, but it's still useful just incase you miss
and have to do it the hard way.

[MilesColtrane]

13. Archae, thanks for the suggested walkthrough, but...

the problem comes here:


"Here you can pick up a Panzershreks, use this to peak (sic) out and take out
the Flak88 to the left of you, you will now have a checkpoint and have
to head forward to take out 2 other flak88"

There is no way to take out the second AA gun with the bazooka.

I've hit every part of it, from many different angles. After countless tries...direct hits never destroy it, and I never get to advance to the checkpoint.

The second bazooka mentioned in the walkthrough is impossible to get to until that checkpoint is reached.

I've beaten this level and completed the game on the next lower difficulty setting, but I'm convinced that this is a bug on "Veteran" as I have found others posting the same complaint.

Too bad. COD: World at War is a great game otherwise...all the more reason it is so frustrating that it's impossible to complete the XboX version of this game on this setting.

[BreweryYardRat]

21. There's a workaround for that bug -- and it's not just an X-Box bug. My PC has it too.

You should have the option to plant charges on the guns. If you don't, then your bug is even worse than you think.

I'm assuming your problem is with the third gun -- left side, behind the bunker-type building that keeps spawning Nazis -- since I've never seen a result from hitting the thing just once with a bazooka. You've got to hit it twice (and even then it's unlikely to blow up), and getting close enough to pull that off is borderline impossible, since the second bazooka is out in the open amidst the Nazi hordes.

What you need to do is get as close to the bunker as you can -- the advancing T34 tank makes for good cover after it's been blown up -- and use your submachine gun (the PPSH-41, with the 75-round drum mag) wipe out a wave of Nazis as it spawns from the bunker. As soon as the last one falls, run like hell and try to make it inside the bunker. If you do, the AI Russians will advance, and the Nazi spawn points will be pushed back. Shoot the third gun crew, run up to the gun, plant the charges. Repeat for the fourth and final gun.

Of course, then you've got the rest of the level to deal with...

But you can beat it on Veteran. It's just insanely difficult.

[MilesColtrane]

28. It's the second gun that won't blow up.

After a hundred tries with the panzershrek, I gave up and started trying to get to it to plant charges.

I've made it to the gun a couple of times, only to be dispatched instantly by the neverending supply of Nazi bastards.

[BreweryYardRat]

32. Try this...

Those barrels and boxes right next to the second gun are ideal cover, because they're high enough to block shots even if the Nazis are right on the other side of them. Get in there, go prone for a few seconds if you've been hit on the way, then rush up, shoot the Nazi hiding behind the gun, plant the charges, then turn around and run like hell for the destroyed tank with the panzershrek resting against it. It takes a lot of luck -- since you're liable to run through a grenade volley -- but it's doable. That'll get you your checkpoint.

[Bucky]

23. If they wanted to be realistic, they'd have you killing a bunch of poorly armed 13 year olds

Do they have an option where you play a regiment's political officer and just sit back 200 yards from the action to watch wave after wave of your own men charge valiantly into action? I think I'd want to play Call of Duty if they had that player option available. They could call it "Nixon Mode" where you just stand around maps of the Pacific pointing out strategies to Nimitz and then write letters home lying to your sweet Quaker parents about not learning to drink and play poker as they feared.

[Posteritatis]

25. Ahh, good old Grenade of Grenade: Grenade at Grenade

On the other hand that mission was sort of spectacular on more reasonable difficulties.

[glen123098]

6. Here's my pet peeve.

Getting stuck in games. I hate it when action games have to break up the action with some obscure puzzle that makes no sense, that forces me to go to gamefaqs.com for the solution. I think Uncharted fixed the problem by slowly giving you hints, I wish other games would follow suit.

[TK421]

8. amen to that...Silent Hill is a great example

if you don't have a guide or access to GameFaqs then you are pretty much screwed

[Pithlet]

36. Yes!

I had one game rendered completely useless, and it happened near the beginning! Tried and tried and tried. Couldn't get past it. 50 bucks down the toilet. I was so mad.

[TK421]

7. Messing with the camera angles....the more they do it, the more I hate it

especially when you end up in a spot where you can't see what is going on around you

oh, and ( as far as PS2 or PS3 games ) relying on the L3, R3 analog sticks...I've always hated these things since they tend to be a bit wobbly and develop problems with sticking and such

[taterguy]

9. When my dog gets in the way when I'm playing drums on Rock Band

I've almost clocked the poor bugger in the head several times.

[rcrush]

10. Giant fucking mazes that you get lost in and take hours to find your way out of

i was playing fallout 3 and was wandering around this giant building but I couldnt find my way out. I tried for 3 days and then I gave up.

[Drunken Irishman]

40. Did you go through the door?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

44. Pff, wut?

Did you try the map on your pip-boy?

[lazarus]

11. very hard puzzles

the Professor Layton series for the DS does this. I can solve about 90% of the puzzles, but the other 10% are just insane.

I hate games that have too steep a difficulty curve. I'm trying to think of one right now. I believe Super Mario Sunshine did this. It was a fun game, then all of a sudden it got very hard.

Games where easy and standard levels are fine, but the God level is impossible, so you can't unlock everything. The God Of War games are like this. On God mode, you die with one or two hits, and it takes 4 or 5 hits to kill even the most basic enemies.

One exception to this. I find Civ 2 is easiest on Deity mode. But then, I just do the One City Challenge, and play with only one city the entire game. You need to be on Deity level so you can start with 2 engineers.

[Odin2005]

12. Sucky character control.

[Danger Mouse]

14. High difficulty for no good reason.

AI that is either pitifully stupid or TOO smart (like it reads your mind).

in RTS games, when you play against the computer and they have a level of skill that is literally impossible for a human being to have.

games that give you obscure hints as to what to do or where to go. the silent hill games are notorious for this. i hate stumbling around blindly while freaky monsters are trying to hump me.

unreasonably difficult bosses for the sake of pissing you off.

[Orrex]

15. I hate how, at higher levels, the Power Pills don't even turn the ghosts blue

They just sort of pause for a moment and then keep on coming.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

34. LOL - I wonder how many just glossed right over that?

I can see the young 'uns shaking their heads in confusion as they read your post.

[Iggo]

39. Wokka-wokka-wokka....(n/t)

[Broken_Hero]

17. Game bosses that take a miracle

of fucking JESUS to beat.

For example, the boss at the end of GUN(Macgruder?) for the ps2. I fought this silly bastard for over two hours before I gave up and looked up online to figure out how to win.

After figuring out how to beat Macgruder(I think) I was thinking to myself, if I didn't have the internet, how in the fuck would I have figured out how to win?

Honest answer, I wouldn't have...the way in which to beat him was so out of "left field" that I doubt many would've figure it out the honest way.

[JackDragna]

18. I've got a lot of 'em.

- Unbalanced choices for character development in RPG's. I understand some choices may be a little bit better than others, that a certain skill/spell/whatzit may be more effective than another. It drives me crazy, however, when one of those is so clearly superior to the others that the others are a waste, or worse, NOT choosing the good stuff makes the game impossible (Dragon Age).

- Any platforming section where one mistake forces you to replay five or more minutes of tedious jumping/swinging/etc.

[WildEyedLiberal]

43. Oh, your Dragon Age complaint is spot ON

I had to restart the game at Lothering because I kept getting killed in the Haven caverns because apparently I hadn't picked exactly the right spells or leveled up my characters' stats in exactly the right way. It's so much easier on my second playthrough because of one or two different choices I made picking spells and skills, and I'm sorry, but one or two level up choices should not make or break your ability to beat a mid-level boss on normal difficulty.

[LeftyMom]

19. Games that won't save when I need my kid to get his ass out the door. -The vote of every gamer's mom

[Archae]

20. Another one I thought of....

When your character does something repetitious through the WHOLE DAMN GAME.

Good example: In Starfox Adventures, whenever you find something you need, the music goes "Da da DAA!" and Fox reaches up.
By about the 2nd stage, you are simply bored silly of that.

[BreweryYardRat]

22. Trying for the "cool" factor at the expense of enjoyable game-play.

The recently-released Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 commits this offense multiple times -- snowmobile slalom run in the Kazakhstan mission, favela escape mission, etc...

Perhaps worst of all, the final part of the final level requires you to steer a Zodiac boat through a narrow river...full of obstacles and highly explosive barrels of fuel...while staying close on the tail of the bad guy, who's fleeing in his Zodiac. If he gets over 120 meters away from you, you fail the mission. After a long and difficult campaign, something like this is extremely aggravating.

This is supposed to be a FPS, not a driving sim. (The aforementioned snowmobile slalom was bad enough, and it was maybe half as difficult as this bit.) And PC folks like me are extra-screwed, since it's insanely difficult to make the boat steer using keyboard controls.

[chrisa]

24. Rappers over the mic

# People who try to rap over the mic, or play loud music.

# Definately bad cameras. Couldn't agree more.

# People who don't think the XBox and PS3 are pretty much the same when it comes to graphics and playability.

# Frustrating levels that just aren't fun. For example, having to travel long distances, only to be shot / crushed / "hit" at the end, and having to start over again at the beginning (also, huge intervals between save points).

# Stupid AI that belongs in the 1990's.

# Griefers, Braggers, Swearers, and general morons that yell stuff over the mic

# Games where you can't mute people over the mic

# Unlocks

[Posteritatis]

27. The mute function is a gift from the gods themselves

While I actually enjoy annoying griefers/whiners/etc to the point where they burst into flames all over a game server, I prefer to not have to hear it when I have the option of them howling at me in all caps instead.

[Posteritatis]

26. A few here

Unskippable cutscenes, especially if they're frequent or incredibly long ones. (Bonus points if they're parked between save points.)

Main characters with no personality whatsoever in anything where one would expect them to. I understand projecting oneself into the action a bit, but I'd at least like to be able to sympathise with, well, me. (FPSes are generally exempt from this one.)

Anything where there's next to no margin of error whatsoever; if I'm not playing a danmaku game, and I don't think I'd ever want to, I don't care for the idea of having to memorize a sequence through vast amounts of trial and error to get anywhere.

Computer players that cheat in strategy games. Aaaaargh!

[gratuitous]

38. Yeah, the no margin for error task

If you're one pixel off, you're toast. After trying about 37 skabillion times, it's time to just say screw it, I'm plugging in the Super NES.

[keroro gunsou]

29. other players

especially in WoW. Granted i had to deal with plenty of jerk-ass players in FFxi, but the kiddies that play WoW are whole different breed. That and at least in FFxi, i could play with Japanese players who were (in my opinion) a lot more mature and took the game a little more seriously.

[Archae]

31. Are the WoW players like this?

http://www.brokenplotdevice.com/2009/11/30/my-mmo-would-pwn-your-mmo/

:-)

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. My current pet peeve is my Majesty 2 game crashes _constantly_. And sometimes I can't

open my last save, which means I have to go back to the previous one. x(

There is only one patch for this game so far, and that one fixed the 5 minute long saves. (yes, five minutes long!) but has done nothing for the crashing issues.

[AbbeyRoad]

33. Getting nauseous while playing

I know the problem lies more with me than with the games, but I have a big problem with getting sick while playing because of the shifting camera especially in first person. For that reason alone, I don't even really try first person games anymore. I'd really like to see more turn based RPG's and adventure games and less FPS's for my stomach's sake.

Lately I've been playing Infamous on the PS3, and I can deal with it for maybe an hour tops. Usually, I'll be a little queasy after. The last time I played, I waited too long, and had some serious nausea.

I have to say it's really limited my gaming. One of the things I like most about playing my Nintendo DS is it never leaves me feeling ill.

Another pet peeve over the years has been the "down-forward" or "down-back" movement on the D pad in fighting games like Street Fighter. I've never been able to get it right.

[iris27]

56. + the world

I can't even watch other people play certain FPSs for more than fifteen minutes or so without starting to get a headache. Where TF is my Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 3?

[Twillig]

35. Douchebags who think:

the only reason you beat them is because you hack/bot/use radar.

Douchebags that are so fucking skilled that they make you think they hack/bot/use radar

Douchebags that do hack/bot/use radar.

and kids like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7r9Y0SSBQ&feature=related

Yes I play UT. (the original, thank gawd)

[keroro gunsou]

37. my personal favorite:

is after i've completely slaughtered someone in Starcraft, i get accused of being a "fucking korean."

i can't help it, i'm much better at games that require a modicum of brainpower than i am games where your only goal is to run around and shoot people.

yes. i detest first person shooters in multiplayer mode. co-op mode, not so much.

[Posteritatis]

41. omg hax!

That one annoys me most of the time, though if I'm in a belligerent enough mood I try to drive them up the wall in response. It usually works and entertains the rest of the server.

One of my favorite excessively-skilled players was a guy I came across Back In The Day playing Subspace. He'd come on in one of the least maneuverable ships available, go on rants about Bush, PNAC, etc in a kind of stream of consciousness style, and utterly dominate the map while he was doing so. It was a thing of beauty; if I'm getting creamed with that kind of style I can't work up a sense of annoyance about it at all. :)

When out playing paintball, one of my friends likes calling "aimbot!" when he's having a particularly bad match.

[Archae]

42. We need guys like at the Pentagon!

For dealing with the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. ;-)

[darkstar3]

45. #5!!!!!

Here's a perfect example: Anyone ever play American McGee's Alice? F*** that Jabberwock! And the Red Queen is even worse!

[insanity]

46. Games that get so up their own ass they froget to be fun,

Sports game commentary

AI levels that make no sense (medium is too easy and hard is unreal, for example)

Games that use stupid control schemes or don't give you the option to change the controller config.

Playing against kids who ruin the fun by acting stupid.

[PJPhreak]

47. Not having a decent "Classic" racing sim...

Yes i know that there a bunch of 'Driving" sims (GTA and the NFS Series), and a few "Racing" sims (EA's Nascar and F1 series) but not since 1998 have I found a Racing Sim that would let me throw this around Road Atlanta,Laguna Seca,Le Mans or Nurinbergring....



This is a Player made car for EA's Sports Car GT from 1998. We made better driving cars than they did and this beauty drives as well as it looks!

[insanity]

48. Forza 3 is quite a lovely race sim

While you can't make your own car you can paint, modify, and tune any car in the game. Also, the Nurburg ring, Laguna Seca, Road Atlanta, Le Mans, and a bunch of other tracks are great.

It also has the Bugatti Veryon

[PJPhreak]

54. right you are,but...

Its for X-Box only. and the Steering/Pedal set i want is this...

Thomas Super Wheel Cup Evolution Digital
* 13 inch steering wheel
* 2 wheel buttons
* Ball bearing steering shaft
* 2 pedals with rubber pads
* Optical encoders installed (3)
* Built-in sequential shifter
* Load Cell Brake







I"ve wanted one of these for years,

The problems...PC Only and a bit over a Grand!

[Posteritatis]

51. I miss flight sims in much the same way. (nt)

[santamargarita]

49. #4 and anything that involves a timer...

also, I can't stand trying to keep someone else alive. I still play Mafia (Free-ride Extreme) and Far Cry 2 because the game leaves me alone.

[LanternWaste]

50. My pet peeve is...

My pet peeve is video gamers... :evilgrin:

[Deep13]

53. The fact that Mac won't play any of my Win95 games. nt

[Evoman]

55. Some of mine:

1)Save points: made sense in the day, but now I want the ability to save anywhere I want. I don't want checkpoints, unless they are autosave spots, which is nice and convenient.

2)Games that have multiplayer, but no split screen. How hard is it to put a co-op in a game, guys? Just cut the screen in half and let me play with my friends!

3)Games in which the character does cooler things in the cutscene that in the game. In the cutscene, the hero jumps through a window, leaps from a pole, and lands on top of a train, shooting one guy while kicking another off the train. Then the game starts, and all you do is shoot and look for keys.

4)Games that ruin the mood with self aware jokes. If it's a parody game, cool. If it's a serious game, I don't want to be taken out of the fun by stupid developer jokes. By all means, have easter eggs, but don't make them too obvious for people who don't give a damn.

5)Quicktime events. If done right (God of War), they aren't too annoying. But if I die because I didn't press X, O, X, X, Square at the right time, then fuck you.

6)Grey and brown sewers, warehouses, industrial plants, etc. I like games that are brighter, and not so freakin dank and dark. Yeah, sometimes it's necessary for mood, but if the game is like that the entire time, then it sucks. I also hate unrealistic environments...I.e. building with rooms that don't make sense, or no bathrooms, or no furniture. I like fantastical areas, so if your on an alien ship or some weird mayan cave, cool beans. I also like common-place environments, but only if they are realistic. I hate industrial plants though....borrrrriiinggggg.