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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:11 PM
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Reboot
Why did we let Hollyweird (or whomever) turn this into the new word for "remake"?
Because when I reboot my computer, I don't expect anything to have changed, and will be quite unhappy if it has.

Therefore, Hollywood deserves a BSoD (Blue Screen of Death) :P
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:19 PM
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1. Reboot typically refers to franchises which producers believe the story line has gone stale...
Edited on Wed Jan-20-10 03:21 PM by Tommy_Carcetti
....and usually involve a change in tone of the story from its previous incarnation, whereas remakes usually are of a single movie and do not always re-invent the previous story.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:29 PM
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2. Yes, I know that's the "new" definition of "reboot".
I simply don't care for it and will continue to call it a remake, whether anyone likes it or not. If they think I'm a fool, that's their problem. It's an improper use of the term.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:35 PM
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3. True, but....
...was the Abrams Star Trek really a remake of Star Trek: The Motion Picture? Was Batman Begins a remake of Tim Burton's Batman or any other Batman movie? To me, "remake" has to have some similarity in story.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 03:52 PM
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4. I think they're similar enough to warrant being called a remake.
Most people know what you mean without the need to "correct" you to the new term, so I don't have a problem calling it the way I see it. I find using "reboot" just plain wrong because it's counter to the definition I know and understand.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:12 PM
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5. I'm just waiting for a movie that gets rebooted halfway through.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:19 PM
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7. If it's the proper use of the term
then you shouldn't notice if it gets rebooted :P
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:14 PM
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6. OMG I was just going to start a thread about this!
After seeing the Cracked movie "reboot" thread, I got irritated all over again at the common use of "reboot" for "remake". I subscribe to Entertainment Weekly (yeah, so sue me) and they use that stupid term INCESSANTLY. Kee-rist, they can call remakes "Cynthia" or "dump truck" for all the good it does--a remake is a remake is a remake (and usually sucks if I may generalize so rashly :P ).
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:22 PM
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8. The Cracked thread was my inspiration, too.
I think my mother used to get Entertainment Weekly, too. It was okay, kind of a lot like People.

Maybe someone will make fun of the term in a comedy one of these days. "Hey! I'm rebooting the system, but it's still the same. Nothing's changing!" :P
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:49 PM
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10. I thought of another one
Also in Entertainment Weekly several times per issue--"redemption". All movie and television (and book) plots are about "redemption". I had no idea so many people were desperately in need of redeeming. Aren't there any other themes in entertainment these days? :shrug:
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:00 PM
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12. Maybe the whole of Hollywood feels that it is what needs redemption
so they're mirroring it in their media. So much for the 36 Dramatic Situations...
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burrfoot Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:48 PM
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9. For whatever it's worth,
I always thought that "reboot" referred to sort of going back to the beginning of a franchise/series of movies and starting the whole thing over again; rather than a "remake" where basically the same story is told again.


:shrug:
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 04:58 PM
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11. As per my OP, when I reboot my computer
I expect it to be exactly the same every time. If it's even slightly different, then something's wrong ;)

Yes, they are making the term into something else, twisting the original meaning. It happens all the time in language. It doesn't mean it's right. Remake is the more appropriate term, in my opinion.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:20 PM
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13. "Remake" or "Remade" or "run out of ideas so we're stealing from the past"
just doesn't rake in the $$$ anymore. :shrug: ;)

I can't wait for the "Reboot/alternate universe" version of The Brady Bunch, whenever they HAVE to get around to it.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:25 PM
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15. They've done that....twice. In the 1990s.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112572/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118073/

They were actually pretty funny, in their own dumb way.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:48 PM
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19. I know the films...I'm hoping for a "reboot" along the lines of "Star Trek".
Alternate Universe created through a quantum error type thing. Caused by and affecting Thee Brady Bunch. Could be "interesting". I almost want to write it myself.

Or even "I Love Lucy". If it features Mr. Magoo as Fred Mertz.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:56 PM
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20. The concepts appear.
Cross "The Brady Bunch" with "Big Meat Eater". Sam the Butcher causes a quantum flux in his search for Bolognium. It keeps with the musical numbers and adds an air of both technology and mystery. And meat.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:22 PM
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14. I'm surprised that I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the cartoon.
That's what I thought this thread would be about.

I'm probably the only person who even knows what the hell I'm talking about.

Nevermind.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:26 PM
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16. I thought about the cartoon when I was coming up with the OP.
And I thought I would get at least one post about ReBoot ;)

I didn't see very much of that cartoon, but I did like what little I happened to catch :D
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:37 PM
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18. Yay!
I loved that show. I was all excited about the CGI (and also I just like cartoons).
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-20-10 05:29 PM
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17. "Reboot!"
Megabyte rules!

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