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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:29 PM
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Poll question: Do you think my user name is racist?
Stated another way, do you see me as racist because of my user name?

This question comes to me from time to time, because some have questioned my intent in choosing the name. (It was quite a while ago but I still think of it.)
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:32 PM
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1. Quite clever actually. One of the few I remember. nt
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:37 PM
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5. Agreed on the clever.
.
I really LIKE clever... although I saw your name 3 or 4 times
before it hit me.
.
Great name.
.
.
.
.
P.S. Now... anyone who chose "Bertha Van Abortedfetus" would
immediately come under suspicion in my book.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:33 PM
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2. It'd be like an outdoor enthusiast calling themselves Mine Camp!
No, it's not racist, but if you call yourself that you're pretty much going to have to expect some raised eyebrows.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:37 PM
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6. Yeah, it's not unexpected.
But no less upsetting.
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:38 PM
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7. Tell me about it.,,, ,,, ,,, n/t
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:34 PM
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3. Nonsense. It's a perfectly good drag queen name.
Seriesly. I remember seeing it in the Village Voice years before there ever was a DU.

Racist? You? Wasn't that baseball player you hosted for a season Hispanic?
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:37 PM
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4. No, but funny you should ask -- HE is a racist.
:( But we love him.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:42 PM
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8. Nope
never hit me that way? I think it's clever. Would it Bertha? Or the 'of a nation' that strikes people as racist? Not you personally? Too strange, huh?
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lib_n_proud7650 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:47 PM
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9. Absolutely not.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:57 PM
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21. Welcome to DU, lib_n_proud7650!
:hi:
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:20 PM
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25. Welcome to DU, Lib!
:hi:
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S n o w b a l l Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:47 PM
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10. No, I would never see you as racist in the least little bit....
I guess those that don't know you could think that though from the name. I wouldn't worry about it though.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:09 PM
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12. Oh, hell, I worry about everything.
Don't you know the world would fall apart if my worry weren't holding it together? ;)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 12:51 PM
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11. ??? Shows what I know. I always thought it was a play on the movie title. *hugs*
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:15 PM
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14. That's just it. The movie is considered racist
because it portrays the KKK as the good guys.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:45 PM
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17. Ohhhh. I never saw the movie. Just saw the title in a book once.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:14 PM
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13. Huh? Why would someone think that?
I always thought your name referred to "Birth of a Nation"

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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:26 PM
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16. Oh I see it now
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 01:27 PM by JonLP24
All this time it never struck me. It is quite clever actually.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:23 PM
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20. Me too.
I am lost, here. :shrug:
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:16 PM
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15. I voted 'no'
but what is your username based on? I always thought it might be your first and last name. :shrug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 01:50 PM
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18. It never occurred to me. nt
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:19 PM
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19. No, because I know it's from Harvey Fierstein's Torch Song Trilogy
and a cute play on DW Griffith's "Birth of a Nation" title. Griffith's film IS racist, but anyone can see that you aren't referencing that film.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. This is the definitive answer.
Thank you! :)
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:59 PM
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22. My dear Bertha!
I KNOW you're no racist, and your name is very clever!

Not to worry, sweetie...

:hug:
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:06 PM
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24. Only if you were posting at that other place.
Your posts here though have never indicated any racism, so it never has occurred to me that the name was racist. And I am familiar with the film.

Don't sweat it, I think it's a great name. :hi:
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:22 PM
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26. Is mine?
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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:27 PM
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27. I always thought your name was a pretty clever pun rather than racist
I know from reading your posts that you aren't racist.

have you seen the entire movie "Birth of a Nation"?I have, a couple of times. It racist aspects are well known but what most people miss is that it truthfully portrays many southerner's view of reconstruction and their loss of power. If you can set aside the stupid racist stuff and racial stereotypes you just might find it an intersting and even entertaining movie. besides, lillian gish,
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:39 PM
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28. it's just a pun... so no.
:shrug:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:41 PM
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29. It's not as bad as your previous user name, Ku Klux Dan. Now THAT was offensive.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:44 PM
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30. Racist?! Some people are just waaaaaaaaaaay too goddamn sensitive.
People who WANT to be offended, I don't give a shit about their opinion.

Your name is fucking hilarious!
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 06:52 PM
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31. I don't think your name is the least bit racy.
Not sure how racy you are in person, though
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jkirch Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 08:29 PM
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32. Change it...
...to Helen Damnation.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:54 PM
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38. .
:fistbump:
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appal_jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:42 PM
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33. Ohh, now I get it
I always assumed that the last part of your username was pronounced with a long 'e' so I never got the pun.

Bertha Vee-nation (with the accent on the 'Vee') never struck me as having a meaning at all, racist or otherwise.

:dunce:

-app
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:50 PM
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34. I've known you since you first started posting
didn't think it was racist even when you were a newbie.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:04 PM
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35. I figured it was ironic
There are many DUers with ironic usernames.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:42 AM
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44. What's that mean?
:*
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:08 PM
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36. I voted "yes, it's racist." Because that was the closest I could get to what I really think of it,
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 10:12 PM by BlueIris
which is that it is extremely insensitive and definitely makes me think, "Hey, is that poster racist?" Whether you actually are or not is impossible to tell over the Internet, but I think the screenname itself, because it makes reference to a profoundly offensive film and provides no context for the reference that could make it clear it's inoffensive, makes you look like a bigot (or at least a jackass).

It's always upset me that on a progressive message board, they let you have a screenname that leaves people asking, "Hey, is that person a racist?" We shouldn't have to ask that about the screenname of any person here. For the record, your handle isn't the only one I've thought that about.

Hey, you asked.
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Ten Bears Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:47 AM
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41. She's asked this before...
... I agree with you but she's got enough of a clique behind her to get away with it, in the lounge anyway.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:08 PM
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47. bertha has a clique?
:wtf: :rofl:

wow I must really be out of it:crazy:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:58 AM
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42. Your username is pretty racist too, using that standard.
It's mostly white people who have blue irises.

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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:53 PM
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37. Nope.
Never even occured to me until you asked.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:58 PM
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39. not its not
And you have always been kind to me..
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:04 AM
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40. Not so much racist as
Anarcho-Syndicalist.


I hope you are happy with yourself...



mark
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 01:30 AM
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43. No way. n/t
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:30 AM
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45. No no not racist.
Just an absolutely wonderful pun. It makes fun of the movie! Now if you signed yourself DWGriffith, I could be offended.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:00 PM
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46. I see your user name as a pun; no more, no less.
It is the YOU in you that we love... :-)
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:11 PM
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48. Anyone who knows you and would say such a thing gives evidence of their cultural ignorance.
Edited on Sat Jan-23-10 12:13 PM by Heidi
I love Harvey and TST And I love _you_. :hug:
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:13 PM
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49. name might be
you? I haven't ever seen any evidence of that. As we all know, there can be different opinions/interpretations of words so I can at least grasp that somebody might feel offense. The adult thing to do would be to ask - try communicating with mutual understanding (listening)

as for your clique...who is in it and why wasn't I invited?:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:14 PM
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50. I agree with Aristus, a pun well done.
:hug:

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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:47 PM
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51. Nope. nm
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:43 PM
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52. no n/t
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:47 PM
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53. No, it's a great pun. Like the names that they have at the end of car talk.
Marge N. O'Vera, Erasmus B. Dragon, etc.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 10:49 PM
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54. It shows you know some cinematic history
and you have a clever way of turning it into a proper name. I like it
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