NOT In The R&R Hall Of Fame: But SHOULD They Be?

[Beetwasher]

Here are some:

Steve Miller Band
Boston
The Doobie Brothers
Meatloaf
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Lou Reed (Velvet Underground is in, but not Lou)
Ringo Starr (only Beatle still not individually inducted)
Chicago

[MrCoffee]

1. Rush!

I'm only saying it to shut up the Rush fans in here. I still hate Rush.

[TZ]

3. Thank you Mr. Coffee!

Thats exactly what I was going to post. I guess you aren't a TOTAL douchebag..:P

[MrCoffee]

4. No, no I am not

Geddy Lee is a total douchebag.


And Neil Peart. Anyone who needs that many drums is a total douchebag.

[TZ]

5. heh.

Well I guess you won't mind if I start a rumor that you are a Geddy Lee fan, than will you? :evilgrin:

[Dr. Strange]

10. You're just upset that Hall & Oates haven't made it in.

MrCoffee got a bad reputation (Oh yeah, oh yeah)
What he needs is adult education

[MrCoffee]

45. Jann Wenner can kiss my ass for that glaring omission

I Can't Go For That shit, yo.

[jmowreader]

35. Call all the drums "nice to haves"

Here's Neil playing FOUR drums...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47yxLg2RyXM

[Beetwasher]

6. Yeah, That's A Good One

n/t

[riverdale]

2. OZZY

[Beetwasher]

7. Valid

n/t

[SoxFan]

29. Wasn't he inducted with Black Sabbath? n/t

[Beetwasher]

48. Yes, But He Should Also Be Inducted As A Solo Artist

And probably will be at some point, I'm sure.

[SoxFan]

8. Underrepresented: postpunk, punk, ska, alt country

No
No
No
First, as to the names you mentioned:

No
Yes
Yes
No
Maybe

Who else should be in?

Joy Division/New Order: Induct them together, since it's 75% the same band. Joy Division is a lot like the Velvet Underground. They were never a big commercial success, but they had an immeasurable influence on the development of rock music. Joy Division inspired U2, REM, and all of the current crop of postpunk revivalists like Bloc Party, Interpol, etc. New Order was really the first band to fuse guitar-based postpunk with chunks of Krautrock and disco.

The Cure: The iconic goth band. Like New Order, they eventually combined dance club sounds with their original skittery guitar rock.

Steve Earle: The embodiment of "Why The Nashville Establishment Chomps The Log". Earle may be the greatest American songwriter since Bob Dylan, yet 90% of Americans have never heard of him. Who else can write heart-wrenching country ballads about death row, twangy rockabilly, and rollicking Celtic trad all at the same time? He's a genius.

Others who should be considered:

Peter Gabriel (as a solo artist)
Iron Maiden
Motorhead
Husker Du
The Replacements
X
Eminem (not eligible for a good while, though)
Rush
Public Image Ltd (if only to see how Lydon reacts)
English Beat/Madness/The Specials (come on, give us at least one ska band)

[jobycom]

16. Steve Earle and Peter Gabriel should be shoe-ins.

I never liked the Cure, but I can see a good argument for them. Maybe I didn't hear enough of the early stuff you're talking about with them.

Husker Du I can agree with. Eminem, too.

Iron Maiden and Motorhead are on the bubble for me, to steal a sports term. The rest I don't have a strong opinion of, or even know well enough.

Except Rush. I hate Rush, and think they are grossly overrated, but it is the Hall of Fame and not the Hall of Talent and Ability and Listenability (as the Hall has proven already), so they should be in. Meanwhile, the HoF generates a lot of publicity keeping them out, which may be part of their plan.

Just my opinions. Probably useless, as always. I just wanted to second you on Steve Earle, but wound up with the rest because I didn't want to get back to my real job yet. :)

[SoxFan]

27. Metal needs some representation

I'm not a huge fan of either Iron Maiden or Motorhead, but metal is an important part of rock music, and these are two of the most important acts in the genre. If Metallica is in, then these bands, who were obvious influences, should be in as well.

Rush managed to break out of the prog box, and, weirdly enough, they were always a "gateway drug", a band that people listened to while they were making the jump from the usual 14 year old song catalog (AC/DC, Zeppelin, etc) to alternative rock.

Joy Divison and The Cure are really no-brainers. They really laid the groundwork for artsy postpunk, in the same way that Husker DU and the Replacements laid the groundwork for American college radio rock and grunge. One of the Hall criteria is influence on the development of rock music, so The Cure, Joy Division, Husker Du, and The 'Mats need to be inducted.

[jobycom]

9. No, No, Yes, Maybe, Hell Yes, Hell Yes, Why?, and Fuck no.

That's to SMB, Boston, Doobies, Meatloaf, SRV, Reed, Ringo, and Chicago.

I hate Rush, but they probably belong in it. They've fooled enough people with their pretentions to earn a spot.

(I accidentally first typed "Meatload." :rofl: )

[TZ]

11. There's another Rush fan!

Or at least someone I can start a rumor about...:evilgrin:

[jobycom]

12. Don't do that unless you want me to bring up Ayn Rand again.

:P

[TZ]

15. too late.

And I bet you skipped your homework assignment of listening to "Snakes and Arrows"....:P

[jobycom]

17. Yeah, I did.

I was so busy vomiting and writing a rebuttal that I tanked the science fair. I blame Rush for all my failures in life. :rofl:

[Goblinmonger]

13. I agree with your votes except for SMB

to whom I would say "Fuck No." I hate that gaspy mofo.

[Archae]

21. Agree 100% on Steve Miller Band.

Overpromoted no-talent hacks.

"...Keep a rockin' me baby, baby! Baby! Baby!"
:eyes:

[Goblinmonger]

26. You have the lyrics a tad wrong

*Obnoxiously Loud Inhale (OLI)* "keep a rockin' me baby" *OLI* "Baby! Baby! Baby!" *OLI* "keep on rockin"

[Blue_In_AK]

14. Definitely Stevie Ray Vaughn

and Lou Reed.

[Richardo]

18. Those are the only two I'd let in.

Steve Miller? Please. :puke:

[DevonRex]

37. +1. nt

[Goblinmonger]

19. My offerings having only thought about this for a minute or so

(though I did check the inductee list before spouting off)

Public Enemy (Run-DMC is in, which they deserve, but not PE?)
Dead Kennedys (Sex Pistols are in so why not the American version?)
Nirvana (I was SHOCKED to not see them on the list--is it because others are still in other bands?)
The Pixies (yeah, they aren't a huge name but damn solid)

[Beetwasher]

20. Nirvana May Not Yet Be Eligible

I think it's 20 years since the first release.

[Goblinmonger]

23. OK, that makes sense.

Cause otherwise, wow.

[Beetwasher]

24. Yeah, They Should Get Right In Once They're Eligible

Along with Pearl Jam (IMO).

[SoxFan]

31. That would make them eligible next year, I think

Most of the iconic grunge bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and The Melvins debuted around 1990.

[SoxFan]

34. Public Enemy isn't eligible yet

They should be a slam-dunk. Gradnaster Flash and Run-DMC opened the door for rap acts, so PE is kind of an obvious next step.

Not a Dead Kennedy's fan, but I guess if you're going to go for a hardcore-oriented act, it's got to be them or Black Flag (or Bad Brains, if you want to recognize the DC scene).

[LynneSin]

22. My list - deal with it!

RUSH
YES
KING CRIMSON
MOODY BLUES
JETHRO TULL

My greatest fear is HoF is going to induct Genesis based on their commerical crap of the 80s and not the amazing prog rock styles of the late 70s

[Beetwasher]

25. Good List

:thumbsup: :hi:

[SoxFan]

28. PROG FOSSIL! PROG FOSSIL!

:evilgrin:

[dawg]

36. Yes and King Crimson ...

defined a genre. And while it may be stylish at the moment to "hate" on that genre, there is no denying that it was groundbreaking at the time, and hugely influential. The fact that these two bands are not in the HOF makes the whole thing a joke, IMHO. They ought to rename the place the "Hall of Bands the Cool Kids Like" or "Hall of Bands Rolling Stone Magazine Likes".

Btw, I like Rush, but to me they are obviously influenced by Yes and should not be inducted before Yes.

[LynneSin]

38. The fact that Madonna is - This IS the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame

And although I respect the impact that Madonna has had on hte music industry these past 25 years - she is not a rock musician. She's pop - she influenced a completely differently genre of music.

I would be less upset if they call it what it is - The Commerical Pop Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

[SoxFan]

43. Madonna is the least of their sins

Billy Joel? The Lovin' Spoonful? James Taylor? ABBA? Can you say "Boomer Friendly Fluff"? Meanwhile, entire genres are grossly underrepresented. Postpunk has U2, but not Joy Division, who inspired and influenced them. Likewise, Motorhead is ignored, despite being the most influential band in the creation of modern metal. And there's not a single ska revival act like The English Beat, Madness, or The Specials.

[DevonRex]

41. Trying to be tactful here. Yes had a couple of good tunes. How'd I do?

[LynneSin]

42. You suck - go sit in a corner and learn your lesson

It's not how many 'good tunes' they had but the influence their music had in the industry. Yes had a sound & style that was very distinct and without a doubt deserves to be in there.

nuff said.

[DevonRex]

51. Okay, okay. I was just kidding about Yes. I rather liked them.

It's just fun to yank your chain. :) Your reactions are too good to miss.

[Tikki]

30. X and Los Lobos...

Tikki

[SoxFan]

32. Throw in Social Distortion and Dream Syndicate for a hell of a SoCal show!

[gratuitous]

33. Chicago: Absolutely

And remember, this is the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. You wanna recognize non-rock acts? Start your own hall.

[SoxFan]

40. Chicago is rock and roll?

Not somnolent crypto-jazz?

OK, kidding. The Hall is really misnamed; it's a Pop Music Hall of Fame, and with some justification. The lines between rock, pop, jazz, blues, dance, fusion, rap, etc can get pretty damn fuzzy.

My big gripe is the overemphasis on mellow Boomer-pleasing acts. James Taylor, Billy Joel, Elton John, and the Lovin' friggin' Spoonful are in before The Cure? Yeah, ok.

[DevonRex]

39. I loved early Doobies and early Chicago. After that? Meh. So no.

But SRV and Lou Reed absolutely.

[LynneSin]

44. They would do to them the same thing they will do to Genesis

Focus on the commericial crap and overlook the genius of the earlier work

[DevonRex]

50. You're probably right about that. So many good bands were killed

by the pressure to sell, rather than just letting them do what they wanted to do and were good at.

[mitchum]

46. The New York Dolls! MC5! Television!

and I agree with you about Uncle Lou

[SoxFan]

49. Yes on all three!

[cleveramerican]

47. Flying Burrito Brothers

and Jimmy Reed

[tilsammans]

52. Please add Laura Nyro to that list!

Thanks! :applause:

[Captain Hilts]

53. The last four, yes. The others, no. nt

[elshiva]

54. Yes! And:

Here's A List of the inductees as is:
http://www.rockhall.com/inductees/inductee-list

Please add:

As a group:


Solo:


Solo: