okay you Cannabis Connoisseurs...

[RainDog]

tell the rest of us how the world of bud is now defined.

the BBC, et al talk about "skunk" all the time, that that's some generic "brand."

I thought skunk just meant smelly pot.

what are the different varietals of pot and what are their characteristics?

I know you guys hate to talk about this stuff ;) but humor me and educate me, s'il te plaît.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

1. goes like this

puff puff pass ;)

[RainDog]

2. okay, but do you pass to the left hand side? n/t

[RainDog]

3. obviously du is full of poseurs.

I guess I'll have to go look at Weed World and High Times and Cannabis Culture to find out these things for myself.

(that was supposed to be peer pressure, btw.)

:)

[MiddleFingerMom]

7. Peer pressure.

.
:hurts:
.

[RainDog]

9. lol

I thought that's what the anti-drug campaigns tell you to watch out for so I was admitting it in advance.

:smoke:

[rcrush]

4. You can call it whatever you want

Skunk can be a brand of some good KB or just slang for real good chronic.

Also I heard people refer to skunk and shit weed before.

So no one really knows what it means.

[RainDog]

6. okay, so these guys who were busted in the UK for importing "skunk"

from the Netherlands were importing, maybe, numerous varietals?

http://www.ukwirednews.com/articles.php/42322-Gang-smuggled-m-cannabis-hidden-in-flower-boxes

what does chronic mean? (other than a Kevin Smith reference)

I know quite a few people who inhale but I have no idea what they're inhaling.

oh, and I saw this about flushing out plants when flowering... there's so much to this whole business. it's fascinating to me because I love to garden.

http://www.medicalmarijuanacure.com/inhalation/is-medical-marijuana-chemical-free/

of course, I'm too much of a wimp to do something illegal, but it it were legal I would definitely want the RainDog blend. lol.

I think that someone should pay me to go to the Netherlands to do a write up on varietals for all those people like me who stopped smoking back when lids cost 15.00.

except for a couple of times. the only thing I discovered after not smoking for so many years is that cannabis DEFINITELY leads to a desire to hear Jimi Hendrix.

[rcrush]

10. Well they were smuggling the good stuff

They were probably smuggling lots of different kinds. Around here people refer to skunk at the high quality good stuff. Like anything with a noticeable smell and at grown with care. "Exotics" No mids or brick weed.

I also hear some places have specific brands called Skunk. So it just depends on where you are I guess.

[RainDog]

12. the strange thing is...

the times when I've been around pot in the last few years it has ALWAYS smelled "skunky."

so that was my confusion - and honestly the UK media treats the word "skunk" like it's some super weed rather than the hybrid pot that came out of the war on drugs from BC, The Netherlands and CA.

is purple kush really purple? like blue potatoes?

[rcrush]

13. Yeah

Check out a copy of High Times. There are some deep dark purples some blues even some REDS. I never had a red before. I want to try it lol.

[insanity]

27. Reds are fine

But the prettiest buds you will ever see are still purples.

[dysfunctional press]

15. i've grown purple kush in my backyard garden for the past few years...

yes- it is purple.

[RainDog]

16. so, if the kind I've seen has brownish red strands on it

not white ones (that's white widow - which is...?? % of indica v sativa etc?)

or purple ones (that's just one type of kush or more?)

that would make it.... (fill in the blank stare on my face)

[rcrush]

17. Purple kush is all purple

not just the hairs. The whole bud is pure purple. Its so pretty.

[RainDog]

21. okay, I sought out a visual aid

but some of the pictures on google have green leaves, not purple. the purple is the bud and not the trichomes, or however you spell that, in this one...

[insanity]

29. I'm drooling

[rcrush]

18. Wait, there are blue potatoes??

There are blue potatoes? What do they taste like?

[RainDog]

19. only had them as chips

they tasted like chips that cost too much money.

I do have to admit that my son got me hooked on pepper and sea salt chips for a while. I went to rehab and now I am only addicted to everything else.

[rcrush]

20. Purple kush looks better than that.

:rofl: If I saw those and didn't know they were supposed to look like that I would think that the potatoes went bad.

[RainDog]

22. yeah, doesn't do it for me either.

but now I'm googling and agent mike can really start puzzling why I'm googling all these varietals AND raccoon problems. not skunk.

white widow is... what this looks like, but have no idea what makes it diff. than other types.



I found this site.

oops. edit to add link - http://www.weedguru.com/varieties.php

it just names names but what do those mean to someone who isn't in a coffee shop in Amsterdam? Ik wil iets te drinken. ook iets te roken. zeker.

[jmowreader]

25. The white shit on the leaves is crystallized cannabinoid-containing resin

They tell me if you want to get fucked up quick, this will do it.

[JonLP24]

36. Oh it's really purple

I only seen it once in my lifetime and I was surprised myself. I said to myself, "This shit is REALLY purple."

[RainDog]

24. oh, another question. what are mids?

and thank you for being my personal cannabis assistant. :)

[cherokeeprogressive]

26. "mids" are middle quality (price) strains of weed.

In my experience, and I have a few years (30), the really really good stuff always smells skunky. There might be other smells mixed in, like a fine wine I guess, but the bottom line is skunk smell.

On the subject of "mids", there's low quality (ragweed) pot, middle quality (mids) pot, and high quality (chronic) pot.

[begin_within]

5. Sinsemilla

is the flower bud of female pot plants. "Sinsemilla" means "without seeds" and if the female plants are not allowed to be pollinated by male plants, the buds grow larger and produce more resin, and thus more cannabinol, and thus are more potent. Sinsemilla is not a strain, cultivar or variety, it just means female plants grown protected from pollen from male plants. The dried buds of them are then more potent than any other form of the plant. Male plants are often discarded for that reason.

[RainDog]

8. yeah, I know that basic idea.

and I know that males and females are separated to prevent pollination so, really, what people are smoking is the intense desire of that cannabis plant for her lover.

it's almost like an epic poem as botany.

I also know female plants may spontaneously grow male flowers to seed themselves - does this happen with hybrids that have been bred back to previous generations to stabilize the genetic composition of a plant?

this is like pbs in the lounge... botany hour.

[hippywife]

11. Check out

Michael Pollan's book The Botany of Desire. They also made it into a PBS documentary. Very interesting.

:hi:

[RainDog]

14. yeah, I read that years ago

but I'm really asking people about cannabis as a product like a wine.

wines are made from various grapes that have different flavors and I just wondered what the basics were...

another good book is Marijuana is Safer, Why are we driving people to drink. also Eric Schlosser's Reefer Madness. Like Pollan, Schlosser's book takes on different "sins" that are treated like crimes.. tho I don't think Pollan treats tulips like a crime, tho the tulip mania of Holland has a lot to say about greed and obsession.

[Roon]

31. I found one seed in a batch that I got the other day

then I dropped it and lost it.

[Roon]

32. as my Cousin used to say...gotta keep them horny!! eom

[RainDog]

44. horny never worked for me as a description of the female version of desire

I mean, the word picture just doesn't quite fit, you know what I mean?

I think I should coin a new term. Males can be horny. Women can be squishy.

as in,

me: hey, Beachbaby, howya doin?

BB: hey. oh man I am so squishy! probably because of that bud I smoked.

[Roon]

45. LOL eom

[MiddleFingerMom]

23. Kali's idea of a skunk bud (from another post)

.
And, by the way, blue potatoes (I think they're originally from Peru) just
taste like REALLY expensive potatoes. Of course, I didn't taste them in a
completely pristine form. so I may have been missing some subtlety.
.
The fore-mentioned Kaliskunkbud:
.

How ya doin', buh-h-h-h-h-h-dy?
.

[insanity]

28. Okay

So weed hierarchy is always going to be dependent upon who you talk to and what slang they use. That said, this is a basic scale:

KB, Kind, Chronic, Chrondo, etc.. are words to describe the highest quality marijuana. These are prize strains like Trainwreck grown with care and love. Often times these buds have a distinctive skunk odor, which is why people often associate skunk with good weed.

Mids or regs are the second-tier bugs and the most commonly available on most markets. Usually when a dealer tells you he has amazing bud with some awesome strain name it is just an attempt to make standard weed sound sexy.

Then you have Schawg, which is like what people smoked in the 60s. This is just shitty bud that you have to literally smoke a straight 8th to even get your buzz on. This bud often smells like shit.

[RainDog]

34. so how do you know what's what?

highest quality - what determines the quality?

mids - what makes this midrange? what is the difference by effect, not name or appearance?

and... if you don't smoke and you take one hit of a something - while there is some tolerance that can come about if your bong is your bestest friend - do you still have the same one hit wonderment but it's a matter of degrees or... whatever else.

thank you for the breakdown.

as far as genetics - the white widow and purple - how are they different?

and are all the high quality similar in terms of % of indica v sativa? -- are they variations on that theme or are their distinct big names that are not crosses b/t the two?

from what I've read, it seems that the two are cross-bred because of the growing traits for one and the size of the flowers on the other... along with the diff. between head v body sorts of experience of the whatever?

[insanity]

39. A few things

You need an eye for it and a nose for it, but there are a couple signs of good weed:
1. It is sticky. If you can get it stuck to a wall just by pushing a bud against it then you know you have good weed.

2. Trichromes and crystals also denote how good the weed is.

3. Bud purity is also a good sign. Good growers don't grow bud with lots of seeds and it should be a little damp.

In terms of genetics, most weed is a cross between indica and sativa to maximize the cannabinoid and THC content of the strain. The percentages definitely vary from strain to strain depending on what kind of effect the grower wants. The common rule is that sativas do body highs while indicas do mind fucks. Also, most indoor weed tends to be crazy hybrids with percentages that are all over the place, while outdoor weed is more stable and dependent upon consistency year-to-year. Many new strains are hybrids of hybrids crossing plants like Purple Kush and Trainwreck.

[RainDog]

41. okay. that was what I sort of thought

as in, the sticky factor. and the trichome thing.

which leads to yet another question... crystals are the white-ish thing? so the THC is in the strands AND the christmas tree effect? (reminds me - cannot say I have seen this in real life, btw, of little christmas lights in pictures.)

or maybe the girls are going all out to flirt with the guy plants who have been banished from the cannaharem. lol.

and having a sticky long bud rather than anything loosey goosey, too, right?

thanks to you and everyone else who has contributed to the information.

I've watched some videos online where people show all the things they do to professionally (tho small, small scale) to create optimum conditions. it's really no longer in the realm of gardening, as in putting something in the ground and letting it grow.

all the stuff - blowing in co2, venting and filtering skunk air, nutrients, flushing the plant of chemicals - no wonder it costs a lot more than when I was younger.

[rcrush]

43. I think flushing the plants with chemicals is highly overrated

There are growers out in california that can grow some BOMB ass KB with just some tender love and care. You can definately tell with the taste and smell.

Makes me wonder what major tobacco companies would do to it if they ever got their hands on it.

[Roon]

30. Skunk is just a strain, I got my hands on some last week or so

and my Grandparents thought there was a skunk under the house. So funny...

There are also other strains called diesel something or another, and it supposedly smells like diesel when it burns..I never noticed though.

But just because a bud is smelly, doesn't make it skunk.

It's funny, you'll be driving down the road with a car full of people and smell a dead skunk. The older people are like..EEEWWW SKUNK!!!
and the younger people are like...MMMMMMMM, SKUNK!!

[rcrush]

35. haha I've done that

There are times that I encounter the smell of fresh skunk spray and I start thinking about getting high lol

[Roon]

40. Too funny! eom

[RainDog]

33. I should've known I had to wait for the west coast crowd to show. :)

mes amis. lol.

[mdmc]

37. for you

ditch weed
swag
commercial
super-commercial
kind
kush
worth over $420.oo per ounce..

This is how bud is defined.. When you hear of a "brand" (cush, skunk#7)= kind, kush, or worth over $420.oo per ounce..

[SteppingRazor]

38. Ahem. Not that I'm a connoisseur, but...

Skunk is a specific type of high-end weed, like Northern Lights or Acapulco Gold. It's a very common type as these things go, though, and so it has come to mean any sticky, smelly, high-end weed, when in fact it is a specific strain. For example, the strain Jack Herer, which was named after a pro-legalization activist and won the Cannabis Cup several times, is a combination of Skunk, Northern Lights and Haze.

Hope that answers your question. :smoke:

[RainDog]

42. it actually creates a lot more of them!

and this whole thread leads me to believe that I need to look in all my pockets, collect the loose change in my sofa, on the floor boards of my car, cash in any aluminum cans my kids have put in the recycling bin...

and look for a good deal on airfare to the NL. lol. purely for scientific research reasons, of course. and I should do it before the right wingers take over, if they do.

My ex-in-laws are in Belgium and they invite me, still, to come over and visit and stay with them and it's only a short train ride away...

I would LOVE to go to the Rijksmuseum under the influence. to see the effects of oil on canvas in real life with heightened sensory perception sounds like a treat. something to hope for before I pass from this mortal realm. :)

and after the museum, some kriek in a cafe. ah, dreamy dreams.

[Bennyboy]

46. In the weed world "Skunk" is a brand name and a general description

Like Kleenex. There is a skunk strain. Pure Indica. Probably three or four. #1, #2 etc...

But it is also used to cover most Simsemilla and almost all pure indica strains by people that have no real specific knowledge.

In California, the "Soda Pop" brand names are very important. Some strains get more (skunk #1 being one of them, due to it's low yield, high intensity properties)money for them. And now that people know the plants and strains better, they are asking for them and wanting to know the lineage and healing properties of each strain.

Also organic is huge too, that means that the Mexican mafia had nothing to do with the plants.