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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:38 AM
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Calling all linguists and linguists wannabes...

Why is "Higher Power" so hard to say? In my neck of the woods people occasionally say, "Hower Power" which drives me nuts but I really can't fault them because it is sort of hard to say.



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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:43 AM
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1. Probably the same reason people spell "vacuum" as "H-o-o-v-e-r"
And do these people "wash" or "worsh" their clothes?

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:46 AM
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3. Its Washington DC...Not Warshington....
That makes me nuts...
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:57 AM
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5. I grew up in a "worsh the clothes" environment, but we still said "Washington".
Then there's "Bal-mer, Merlan", which you only know how to say correctly if you lived near there for a while.

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:44 AM
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2. I consider myself a cunning linguist
but, I don't see it as hard to pronounce? Maybe it's a regional accent where you are?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:51 AM
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4. May be. nt
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:57 AM
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6. That's what SHE said!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:42 PM
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10. as long as she keeps saying it!
:9
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:09 PM
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18. SHIT! That's the first time anyone EVER replied that way!
:toast: :party: :bounce: :evilgrin: O8) :smoke: :thumbsup: :fistbump: :headbang: :woohoo:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 11:59 AM
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7. Higher Power rolls off the tongue easy in West Coast Lingo.
However, you should hear the kids try to say 'Real World' in SoCal/Surfer/Valley Speak. They sound like they're gonna swallow their tongues...lol.

I even trip over it sometimes when I slip back into my teen-talk ways.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:20 PM
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20. This west-coaster agrees, I don't see the problem
But then, neither do I have a problem saying "real world" either.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:05 PM
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8. The pervading trend in American English
seems to be for the "ow" <aw> and "eye" <aj> sounds to merge. There's no real reason why these sound changes happen. Someone just starts talking that way and it rubs off on people. Regardless, that seems to be the way things are going. The Hower Power people just seem to be on the leading edge this time.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 12:13 PM
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9. Come to think of it...
...we had a guy in one of my NA groups many years ago who said "Har Par."

Texas, maybe.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 03:43 PM
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17. That's the typical Southern monothongization of /ai/ to /a:/
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 02:14 PM
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11. Harder to believe than to pronounce..... n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 09:51 AM
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23. .
:rofl:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 02:18 PM
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12. hmm, don't see why the " Yer" in higher pronunciation should be that hard
that y sound is made with the sides of the tongue on the back teeth, so I wouldn't think the physical aspects of the sound would be the issue, but more an issue of regional accents.

Signed, took one linguistics class in college... :hi:
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 09:53 AM
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24. Yer one o' them there experts, then. (n/t)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 02:23 PM
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13. Don't know. I never say it.
I would like to protest the Mid-West's war on vowels.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 02:44 PM
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14. May be some problem with your neck
of the woods.

Here where I am, we speak correctly.

mark:rofl:
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 02:47 PM
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15. I'm a cunning linguist wannabe.....
Edited on Tue Mar-09-10 02:48 PM by Bennyboy
does that count?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 03:41 PM
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16. I've never heard that pronunciation before.
There is no English dialect I know of that merges those 2 diphthongs.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:14 PM
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19. It's 'Har Par'.
;-)
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 07:22 PM
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21. Hey, ain't he that guy in them movin' picshures? The wizardy guy? n/t
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-10 10:13 PM
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22. Up here it's "higher pighwer"
really nasal
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