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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:38 PM
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Why is it called a TV 'set'?
It's not like there's two of them. 'Pair' of pants makes more sense, cause at least there's two legs. So what's the 'set' all about?

I was just thinking about the term cause I think my TV is broken and so I was looking at some online.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:40 PM
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1. Like a pair of panties but only one bra?!?
Interesting.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:41 PM
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2. A set can have one element.
Indeed, the empty set has no elements. Much like the show "Joanie Loves Chachi" had no plot. Or humor. Or redeeming qualities.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:43 PM
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4. Stop that.
No math geek talk allowed.

:spank:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:06 PM
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12. If your TV was turned off, would you have a null set? Or would it now be
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:08 PM by old mark
an empty set? {}



:shrug:

mark
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:16 PM
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15. It would be a null set.
Much like it would be if Fox News was on.
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:24 PM
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16. should it always be THE empty set, rather than AN empty set
Because there's only ONE empty set universally, right? Because it's empty!

You don't have an empty set of wolverines that's any different than an empty set of toast pastries, or irrational numbers, right?

And before anyone asks, there WAS a band called The Empty Set a few years ago... a Young Fresh Fellows side project, IIRC.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:17 PM
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28. Of course - forgive my ignorance. nt
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 09:51 PM
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33. No offense intended. Just having fun with the empty set!
:)
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:56 AM
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34. {}...nt
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:42 PM
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3. Let me set a spell and think about this...
OK, first of all, people set on their asses to watch it.

Also, it's a collection of parts, a set if you will.

And maybe because the screen and the cabinet were two parts that came together in a set?

I don't hear it called a set anymore, just flat panel TV or some such.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:46 PM
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5. Pair of sunglasses is another weird one
Although since there is a monacle, maybe "pair" is ok for 2 lenses.

But if pair of pants applies since there are 2 legs, why don't we wear pairs of shirts since we have 2 arms? I think maybe pair of pants originated from when a suit came with 2 pairs of pants?

Language can be so odd.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:56 PM
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6. Then there was "console" - back when it was a thing the size of a buffet.
Lets see - 19" TV, AM/FM radio, turntable, built in speakers, and a pull down drawer for the LPs.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 01:59 PM
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7. Good lord... yeah...
I thought that might be the reason after DUer (numbersnumbersnumbers) said that about a cabinet. I forgot they used to come like that.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:02 PM
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11. I still have a working receiver from one - with physical capacitor plates for tuning.
It is old enough that it won't work with a modern (as in after 1975) turntable because you need a pre-amp for those. It came with a turntable with a ceramic needle head that amplified the signal and that's what the receiver expects.

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:00 PM
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8. Because like radios, which were also called radio sets at one time, it's a collection or set
of separate devices brought together to produce the television???



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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:15 PM
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14. Radio set? Never heard of that.
Simpler times. I bet they didn't have three different types of TVs back then, with ridiculous amounts of options and crap.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:05 PM
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21. More people lived on farms back then
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 03:07 PM by Gormy Cuss
so they had plenty of crap. :P


Seriously though, you'll hear radios referred to as radio sets in movies from the 1930s and 1940s. There was a question about radio ownership on the 1930 decennial census and it refers to them as radio sets.
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dalaigh lllama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:46 PM
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18. I think you're right
I never knew they were called "radio sets" until I was browsing through the 1930 census records not too long ago. One of the questions to check was whether or not the home had a "radio set." Maybe it seemed natural to go from radio sets to tv sets back in the 50's and the term just stuck.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:50 AM
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35. Yes, radio set, wireless set, crystal set (made one in jr. high school). n/t
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:00 PM
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9. Setting maybe
Set it down on a table, floor, whatever.

Here's the one that I don't get. We say that "I have to go take a shit", when what we're doing, is giving one.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:10 PM
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13. Besides, where would you want to take it? Or did you have too many
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 02:11 PM by old mark
and want to remove one?
No one ever replies, "Oh, take a few - they are pretty small...and we have way more than we need..."

mark
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:22 PM
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24. I have thought about that one as well
The taking a shit one. And why is it that "giving a shit" actually is a good thing? But yet, when someone says "don't give me shit" they mean don't give me trouble.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:02 PM
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10. Too hard to pronounce Kinescope nt
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:32 PM
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17. Because you use it to buy a "set" of steak knives.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 02:47 PM
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19. OK, according to My Husband the Nerd, TV set is a hold over term
from the early days of radio. Early radios were a "set" of components -- receivers, amplifiers, batteries, speaker(s), etc
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:33 PM
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29. And don't forget
the tubes! :hi:
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 11:59 AM
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36. .
Edited on Fri Mar-26-10 12:01 PM by hunter
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 12:00 PM
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37. That's what I'd say also.
In the old days you'd assemble a working "radio set" from components that often required a lot of tinkering to get them set up and working properly. What kind of components you got depended on what kind of radio you wanted and what you could afford. Even a simple crystal radio set had multiple components -- the "detector," the grounding and antenna system, the headphones, etc.

Sophisticated crystal receiver from around 1914:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

One of my great grandfathers loved radio. The only reason he and my great grandma agreed to rural electrification across their homestead was because radio batteries were messy and expensive. They had Aladdin oil lamps and wood stoves so they didn't need electricity for anything but the radio.

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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:02 PM
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20. OK, sit down and hold on, because I am about to use logic here
not really

before they started making TV machines that you hang on the wall, you had to set it on the floor or on some sort of cabinet or shelf - get it? good. :shrug:

actually, pair of pants doesn't make sense, as opposed to a pair of hose, have you ever seen anybody wearing one pant. Of course not, that would be silly. Or a pair of panties.

Now a pair of hose is logical because you need one for the front yard and one for the back yard or you are continually having to drag one ho around to the other location.

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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:11 PM
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22. Why do they call it Rhode Island?
Isn't an island surrounded by water? :shrug:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:17 PM
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23. I think it has to do with how TV came out
Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 03:18 PM by sakabatou
How it had many parts to it. You'd have the TV, antenna, and later the VCR. All separate.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:26 PM
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25. it used to be in like a wooden console thingy, so it was a whole furniture set
a cabinet and the actual electronics if that makes any sense

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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 03:41 PM
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26. TV's started out as a set of mostly tubes.
Like radio. Set just stuck over time.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 04:37 PM
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27. Because calling it a ready or a hut or a hike didn't catch on....
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 05:39 PM
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30. because it's a set of electronic components....
Even though it's packaged in one box, it's still a set of interconnected components, much like a computer. There's a regulated power supply, a tuner, a signal amplifier, probably a separate audio amplifier, and a cathode ray monitor (at least originally). Each component is a separate electronic entity, just connected permanently inside one box for convenience rather than sold separately like stereo components. The same goes for radios, especially older "sets"-- they are collections of independent electronic circuits all packaged in one box for convenience.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 06:56 PM
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31. Actually it was a set of tubes that was bringing you pictures on another tube.
Hence it was shortened to a TV Set. "of tubes"

BTW, don't you enjoy being on the web set... "of tubes"

Yes, I'm channeling Ted Stevens!!

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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:14 PM
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32. That what the Egyptian gods called it when they were speaking disparagingly
Much like we call it the idiot box.
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