Philly Eagles succumb to idiot fans, trade McNabb - to REDSKINS!!!

[old mark]

Season's first foot shooting party in Philly!
Kolb is now the Eagles QB, Vick still a backup.

McNabb traded for 2 draft picks, says he will be happy to go to 'Skins...I am sure he will be laughing at least 2 games every season.

Many Philly fans hated Donovan from day one, now they get their wish. All they have to do now is get rid of Andy Reid and we can look forward to years of 6 wins and much wondering what went wrong.

Eagles, it will be just like the old days again....




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[madinmaryland]

1. Hide your beagle, Vick is still an Eagle.

Now McNabb is a Deadskin with no offensive line.

[KamaAina]

2. Who in the hell ever hated Donovan?

Besides Rush, that is? :grr:

[old mark]

3. They got a white QB, now they should be happy, even if he has never won a game.

Old Eagles fans, get ready to go back to the bad times.


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[JonLP24]

4. He actually did win a game

He started against and defeating the Kansas City Chiefs. Not a big deal but he had back-to-back 300+ passing yard games, the first one was a loss against the Saints.

Hey--I'm not saying you're wrong. Just a slight correction. :hi:

[old mark]

5. OK, he beat the Chiefs - so did everybody else....nt

[HERVEPA]

50. I think most of dislike of McNabb is not at all race-related

Has to do with his annoying smile on sidelines after screw-ups, lack of ability at end of game (aided by Reid's incompetence, of course), and screwing up in clutch situations.

[jobycom]

6. Eagles fans booed when McNabb was chosen over Ricky Williams in the draft.

There's been a loud contingent of McNabb haters ever since, though I have no idea if it's a majority in Phillie.

But this is about the lousy Eagles management and ownership. They drafted McNabb and only once ever gave him a decent receiver to throw to. That receiver, Terrel Owens, led them to a Super Bowl his first year there, and so the Eagles did what they could to run him off and split the team. They began twisting everything Owens said into some controversy so they could bench, then release Owens instead of paying him more. They want the Eagles to be good enough to fill the stadium, but not good enough to cost them a high salary.

Oh well. This Cowboys fan welcomes Washington back to the NFL, and grins as the Eagles vanish beneath the cash-colored waves.

[JonLP24]

7. Another slight correction

DeSean Jackson was a dual pro bowl selection as both a receiver and returner. He is also arguably the fastest receiver in the NFL and he was big reason McNabb had his best season since he did have Terrell Owens.

Edit-OK his numbers last season weren't even close to TO's career bests but he is still a very good receiver imo.

[KamaAina]

9. That would be the Da'Sean Jackson who outran his own TD, aginast the Cowpies, on national TV??!!

In a game they lost by 4??!! :wtf:

[JonLP24]

11. Everyone makes mistakes

He still had an outstanding season and he is still young. There is a lot to build on and in football, speed kills. He has a lot of it.

[KamaAina]

14. But not everyone's mistake hands a win to evil incarnate

although it did set the stage for 44-6. :bounce:

[jobycom]

16. I saw Jerry Rice do that once against the Saints.

They didn't call it, and it was before instant replay, but Rice was trotting in for an easy touchdown, the officials were all trailing him so the couldn't really see his hands or the ball, and he just dropped the ball on about the three. He bobbled it a moment in front of him, then slapped it out of the endzone, and kept trotting like he had done nothing wrong, and the officials completely missed it.

If the greatest football player of all time can make that mistake at the prime of his game, I think a rookie can be forgiven for it. Once. :)

[jobycom]

12. He's a great receiver. They got him in the second round for a steal, though.

I was a big DeSean Jackson promoter going into the draft. The Eagles got him in the second round in 2008, and haven't had to pay him big bucks yet. They may keep him when they do, only because they've cut so many high-priced players.

But they didn't go out and get him. They got lucky in the draft. And they traded McNabb the year after Jackson really hit the big time. Exact same pattern--keep a couple of stars so the fans will still come see you, but not so many that you have a legite chance of winning.

[mvd]

13. You're a Cowboys fan, right?

You HOPE they don't have a chance of winning. :-)

I, however, am more optimistic about the future.

[jobycom]

15. Well... yeah...

:rofl:

But it's an honest analysis. :)

[JonLP24]

18. I agree

that it was a steal. I'm not 100% but I believe cannabis use in college hurt his stock. Not sure though because Percy Harvin didn't drop far if it all and he tested positive for cannabis at the combine. However there are teams that completely remove these players off of draft boards.

You may be on to something with this pattern. I think they let players establish themselves a long time with the franchise such as McNabb and Brian Dawkins so maybe Philadelphia will resign DJ for at least 3 more years when his contract is up. He may not be an Eagle forever though.

[jobycom]

19. There were questions about his size and his concentration.

He's a tad short and light for an NFL player, but more than that, he had the reputation of zoning out on big plays, so a lot of scouts questioned his maturity. When he spiked the ball on the one yard line against the Cowboys instead of scoring a TD, a lot of people said "See? Told you!"

But he's fast, and he's got that quickness. Jerry Rice said he was the fastest receiver he'd ever seen out of college. And he's a smart receiver (when he's not spiking the ball on the one yard line). I really, really wanted the Cowboys or Saints to get him. :)

[old mark]

28. I didn't believe this, but I am really thinking it's true now - this was done by the Eagles

Bean Counters to save money, and to go back to their old system of running the team on the cheap to make a profit, rather than to win.

Your'boys may have another good season or 2 out of this....but watch out for the Redskins.


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[tishaLA]

20. the vocal McNabb haters rule Philly sports talk

I grew up in Philadelphia and I remember the booing when he was drafted--it was organized by 610 WIP's morning crew, who thought Rickey (with what QB?) could take them to the promised land. And they stayed on Donovan, more or less, throughout his entire career. He might beat out Mike Schmidt as the most underappreciated athlete in Philadelphia sports history.

[old mark]

21. There has NEVER been a majority against McNabb, just a very loud

minority.

I am sure he will get better treatment in DC than he ever got in Philly.

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[TZ]

23. I know some Philly fans that aren't big fans of McNabb

and they are neither racist nor repukes btw...If you look at how poorly he performed under the pressure of the l SB that explains some of it...

[JonLP24]

24. He didn't play that poorly

He threw for 3 TD's and over 350 yards. He did throw 3 INT's(1 was off of a hail mary) but what do they expect when you threw the ball 51 times against the #1 pass defense of that year that only allowed a very low 5.8 YPPA?

What was a poor performance was Andy Reid only handing it off 16 times. Those fans can never be happy I guess. That whole season McNabb threw for close to 4,000 yards and over 30 TDs.

[KamaAina]

47. Well, he certainly won't have to worry about that anymore

:P

[Robeson]

8. You have got to be kidding me...

...giving someone in one's own division an asset, is always a bonehead move.

[mvd]

10. I liked Donovan. But it just wasn't working out

It was a good time to see what Kolb can do. I hope they do really well in the draft, because trading him in the division is risky.

[Capn Sunshine]

17. wasn't working out?

McNabb is coming off his sixth Pro Bowl season, and has won more games and thrown for more yards and touchdowns than any quarterback in Eagles history. Oh, and by the way, he’s led the team to five NFC championship games and a Super Bowl.

Yet, the Philly fan says "wasn't working out"???

Look, I'm glad the Eagles have shot themselves in the foot. I'm a Saints/Chargers fan.
But seriously, dude.

[Captain Hilts]

27. He'll be a good mentor to our Mr. Campbell. nt

[PRETZEL]

32. Campbell's odd man out.

especially if they sign Mcnabb to an extension,

[JonLP24]

34. Seahawks currently showing interest in him

Not a lot of info out there but I believe he is currently on the trading block.

ESPN 980 is reporting Buffalo, Carolina, Oakland, and Jacksonville are interested in Mr. Campbell.

Ok Gene Smith the GM of Jacksonville says he isn't interested and is confident in McCown as the #2 QB.

[Captain Hilts]

35. I'm not so sure, unless they draft a young QB. nt

[PRETZEL]

36. Don't they have that guy from Hawaii

Brennan I think his name is.

It'll be tough to let him go unless he hasn't shown anything,

[JonLP24]

37. Colt Brennan?

Yeah. He actually recently switched his number to 15 so McNabb could wear #5.

[madinmaryland]

45. You are mistaken. Campbell is a goner. Tim Tebow will be mentored

by Donovan, and Donovan will be ministered by Tebow!

:D

[Solomon]

48. Yep. Campbell's gone. Don't know about Tebow tho.

I hope not.

[old mark]

22. I believe the Eagles will have a few bad years while Kolb gets acclimated.

I just read that Kolb already has more closeness with the newer guys-like Jackson-and that McNabb's "people" are mostly gone already.
I just don't see a lot of competence in Kolb and never have....I hope I am wrong, but I see a pretty dismal time ahead for the Eagles.
If they do well in the draft and trade Vick for anything more than a case of root beer, they may come out OK in 2 years or so...by which time McNabb will be retired or close to it.

But I will miss him-he is one hell of a player and a good man.

And I am afraid that Reid will as well go in another year or two.


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[LynneSin]

46. or he could be temp until we draft something better

After Cunningham there was suppose to be this great guy out of Ohio - Hoying I think. He really didn't pan out and ultimately it was McNabb that was drafted to takeover.

[old mark]

57. Kolb WAS drafted to take over. He has not shown me much in the several years

he has been a backup.

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[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

25. Eagles fans hate everyone

They will never, ever be happy.

[Captain Hilts]

29. True. And, for some reason, McNabb has always been popular in DC. Unusual for any Philly player. nt

[Iggo]

31. McNabb is popular pretty much anywhere, as far as I can tell.

Seems like a nice cat.

[Captain Hilts]

33. His mom, too. Popular everywhere but Philly. I know some Philly fans that really like him,

but that seems to be the exception.

[PRETZEL]

26. It was either McNabb or Kolb

both are in final years of their contracts. Eagles thinking was that if they kept McNabb he'd need a contract extension since he'd be a FA next year and they may get nothing.

Eagles made a decision.

They got a ton of draft picks this year alot in the second/third round. I'd wait til draft day to see what happens. If St. Louis picks Bradford, I wouldn't be suprised to see them go after Mark Bulger.

I'll only be upset if they feel Vick is worthy of being their no.2.

[Iggo]

30. You don't really think they traded him because of the fans, do you?

[old mark]

58. My understanding is he was traded to save money - bean counters run the team now. nt

[NJmaverick]

38. I have to confess to being shocked by this trade

did the Skins offer so much better of a deal that it was worth having two games go from the Eagle's easy win column to a struggle to win?

[JonLP24]

39. 37th overall pick in the draft

and a 3rd or 4th round pick next year depending on how well Washington does with McNabb. This is what the Eagles got in return if you're wondering.

Also if you wonder why inside the division, it was McNabb's first choice out of them, Oakland, and Buffalo. Eagles wanted to make McNabb somewhat happy rather than "banish" him to Oakland or Buffalo.

[PRETZEL]

40. That's my feeling also,

I think McNabb did have a say in this.

He's also going to want an extension. He'll get that in DC also.

[Captain Hilts]

51. He's really the only Philly-area athlete I can think of that DCers like in ANY sport. nt

[Lost4words]

53. Are you in DC?

[Captain Hilts]

54. Yes. nt

[Lost4words]

55. That was my first adult chosen home, 27 years, I loved that city.

and her people, I also learned much, didnt like the pukes renaming Washington National Air Port by sticking that Idiots name in front of it. And after 2001 I lost work, after 9/11 my wife wanted the hell out of there , we lived 1 mile from pentagon.

We were actually in Arlington but thats pretty much Metro DC IMO. Northern Virginia is/was much more liberal than the rest of the state of VA at the time we lived there.

I miss my Mid Atlantic Home. The clubs The restraunts the theatre the culture, forth of July. ah well life goes on.

Good Luck to you my friend, you dont mind if I call you Cap do you?

Lost4words
jim

[NJmaverick]

41. I know what they were given, but I don't think it was worth having

to face him twice a year. Then again the Eagles are like the Logan's Run of the NFL, just watch out when you hit 30.

[JonLP24]

42. Sorry

I misunderstood your question. I read it perfectly but I thought you were wondering what Washington was offering. You're not alone in thinking that though as far as trading inside the division thing.

[PRETZEL]

43. If this Yahoo article has any credibility,

don't necessarily blame the Eagles.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-mcnabbtrade040410

[JonLP24]

44. I don't

I was just saying he wasn't alone in that opinion, not saying it was mine. I have mixed feelings about the trade personally but if they get someone good with the #37 pick than it can work out. I completely understand there wasn't a lot of places McNabb was willing to give especially considering the other options.

[MilesColtrane]

49. Injury prone QB behind a porous offensive line...

That will go well.

I don't understand why they wouldn't just draft Clausen or even Football Jesus.

Anyhoo, any Skins personnel decision that reeks of failure and desperation is always good news.

[Lost4words]

52. In that case I will root for DC every time they play Philly

I was a 27 year DC fan, but now I live in the SouthWest and understand how offensive their name is to Native Americans.

Its weird living in a state with no NFL team. I started w/St Louis Cardinals, Two years living in Miami during the greatest period for the Dolphins, south FLA Went CRAZY!! Then 27 years living in Arlington Va. Metro DC was a great football town. But out here at 7700 feet above sea level, the air has a wonderful taste.

[old mark]

56. 'Skin fan site stated McNabb was in the weight room working out early

this morning. The fans are already impressed with him.
I think the Eagles are really going to regret this. I can see the 'Skins winning 8 to 10 games this year while the Eagles will be lucky to win 8 games.

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