Ok time to kill me. I think I like Lady GaGa.

[amyrose2712]

Something about that Rara GagA gets in my head. I saw online she is an agent of Illuminati. Must be it.

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

[meeshrox]

1. OMG...double homicide! I'm next in line...

She's really growing on me. I thought of a Gaga appreciation thread, but figured I'd regret it later!

That link was fun, thanks!

[bigwillq]

2. I liked her since the first time I ever heard her

Liked her voice, style, type of music. But I tend to like music of that genre. Kind of reminded me of Madonna, who I love, the first time I saw her.

[Brickbat]

3. Is this the end of the line here? OK, I'll stake my place.

I'm not a big fan of pop but I think she's just a little bit awesome.

[Lyric]

4. Me too. I really like Bad Romance and Paparazzi.

Not crazy about Poker Face or Telephone, but I don't *hate* them either.

[blue_onyx]

10. "Telephone" would have been better without Beyonce

[Captain Hilts]

12. I'm joining the 'Beyonce is over-rated' club. nt

[KeepItReal]

16. I'm a founding member. They kicked my favorites out of Destiny's Child.

Yeah, I go that far back.

[Captain Hilts]

26. Oh, right. That was u-g-l-y. 'Girl' groups, when they break up, do it ugly. nt

[jobycom]

17. I'm more in the 'Beyonce seriously underachieves' club.

I think she's got real talent, but I think she's too happy to just to make money instead of making the music I think she could.

[Captain Hilts]

23. Okay, that's an interesting take. Is she someone else who would be better

but for the 'trying to sing like Whitney' factor?

[jobycom]

40. I don't think it's Whitney she's trying to be.

I actually like Whitney (although I have the same thought about her, that she could have done more). I think they both did the same thing. They try to be marketable instead of great.

You know why McDonalds is the best selling chain in the universe? It isn't because their food is good. It's because their food is the most average. Burger King and Wendys on local chains all have a certain style to their foods, and if you don't like that style, you won't eat there. But McDonalds is just average. It doesn't excite most people, but it doesn't really turn them off, either. So people settle for it, especially in groups. It's everyone's second or third choice, but it's often the lowest common denominator because it's designed to offend the fewest.

That's what a lot of pop music is, always has been. It's designed to appeal to the largest audience, not to display the greatest musical integrity or creativity. That's not always bad--it lets a group of teens have fun at a club or skating rink by all appreciating the same sounds, for instance. It also allows giant mass-marketing campaigns for record labels, which paradoxically helps indie music by generating more money for the whole industry, otherwise it might cost too much to make low volume CDs, and radio stations would be so specialized that they'd have trouble getting advertising.

But anyway, that's what I think of Beyonce. She has the talent and musical understanding to do a lot more than she's doing, but she's just worried now about selling CDs, she works on being McDonalds instead of on creating as much as she could. It's not bad, and I even like a lot of her stuff in a pop way, but I always feel like she could do more. If that makes sense.

[Captain Hilts]

42. Interesting. Whitney was great for many years, but she's certainly lost

it of late. She's been boo'ed off several stages lately. I wish her well and that she can come back.

[Sultana]

35. +100000000000000000000000000

[RandomThoughts]

5. Butterfly has had the symbol of something beautiful from something else.

Sure it can be fit to mean other things also, but the real use of symbols is by defining them.

And it goes way back. Taking a symbol, can change the meaning of it in someones mind.

What does liberal mean to most people after years of talk radio?



Also once your symbol library gets big enough, you can not see anything without also seeing 100 different meanings. Hence why you have to have a grounding in reality.


Although it does show how the mind works, and how visual images have always stored ideas.

Think of them as computer macros. An image has a feeling and thought attached to it, most marketing is trying to program a macro into an image. For instance, when a Rush listener hears liberal, the macro of hate taken in from talk radio is what they feel. That is how most of it works.

If you see an image, what the macro in you says it means, is the feelings and thoughts you have, that is why people have to look in the mirror and think why they think things, to clear their macros.

To combat marketing, people have to be more aware of the subconscious effects of things like imagery and symbols, so they can think and not be programmed.

[amyrose2712]

28. Um... I kinda posted that...

link as a joke... in jest as the OP was intended. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

[RandomThoughts]

37. I was responding to those that have the mentality in that blog.

They take symbols to crazy level and lose sight of reality.

No harm, no foul. :)


Although it was an oppurtunity to point out how people think with macro like things. The conscious processing does not want to refigure things out, so it puts labels on images and even words. If people understand that sometimes they can think about why they feel things instead of letting other people tell them how they should feel about things.

[flvegan]

6. My name is flvegan, and I find myself liking that "Telephone" song.

They say the first step is admitting it. It's not my fault. She did it live on Jonathan Ross, and it was just mesmerizing. I wasn't watching, but I was listening, and I thought it was Madonna. So then I looked.

I should have never looked. I should have never looked.

[pscot]

7. Bad Romance

just blew me away the first time I saw it. She's witty, talented, gorgeous and multi-faceted. She can project intense sexuality, cold aggression or warm vulnerability and do it while singing and dancing very well. She seems to have a mocking self-awareness uncommon in music videos, and the production values are first rate. It will be hard to keep it going, but for now, what's not to like.

[darkstar]

8. Save a bullet for me. I just went through tons of her stuff this weekend.

Came down on the "like it" side.

[Captain Hilts]

9. She's creative. nt

[Bucky]

11. There are two kinds of entertainers: Madonnas and Cyndi Laupers.

Robin Williams is a Madonna. Matthew Fox is a Madonna. Hell, even Meryl Streep is a Madonna. George Carlin is a Lauper.

The jury is still out on Lady Gaga, but right now I think she's leaning Lauperish.

[Captain Hilts]

13. Um, no. Some are more the utility models rather than sporting models:

Utility:

Sade
Mary Blidge
Susan Boyle
Leona Lewis
Amy Winehouse - yeah, Amy

Sport:

Ke$ha
Rhi Rhi
Beyonce
Taylor Swift
Mariah Carey


Combo:

Madonna
GaGa

[Bucky]

15. Heh

Winehouse may be a utility vehicle, but that doesn't mean she's not a wreck.

[Captain Hilts]

24. Yes, Amy's a wreck, so she's in the right line of work! nt

[jobycom]

19. Where does Freddy Mercury fit in all of that?

Since he's Gaga's biggest influence and all.

[Skittles]

21. I would have thought her biggest influence was these guys

yes INDEED

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrBDivsSe3k

[Bucky]

33. I don't know him that well. The litmus test is how vulnerable they are in their work.

Are they trading on honesty or on pure craft?

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. I've bought a couple of cheer remixes of her stuff. I enjoy them very much.

[jobycom]

18. Why do people not like the things they like?

:shrug: I've never understood that. "I hate to admit I like Lady Gaga because other people whose tastes I don't want to agree with like her, so I'll let them decide what I like and don't like rather than my own preferences and tastes." It's what it sounds like.

Fuck everyone. If I like someone, I like them. I won't let the masses or the elitists tell me who to like or who not to like.

And I still fucking hate the Eagles, man.

[amyrose2712]

29. First, I was joking, second...

it is just not the music I usually like. I am never afraid to admit what I like, I mean cripes I have flown from Philly to Seattle for a meet and greet with Queensryche! Queensryche! I tell you. So, I'm never truly embarrassed for what moves me. Thanks for the response though.


Don't feel bad I don't like ACDC. Got crap for that all my life. "That's pure Rock-nRoll man." They tell me. Fuck you, they blow! Is what I say to that!

[NewJeffCT]

34. That takes a lot of guts

to admit flying cross country for a meet & greet with Queensryche.

:evilgrin:

j/k - I saw Queensryche in concert many many years ago

[amyrose2712]

39. Well Seattle was the real draw, but still. nt

[SoxFan]

41. I'm driving 200 miles to see "Zombie New Order", aka Bad Lieutenant

So I have absolutely no moral authority on this subject!

[Skittles]

20. I'll be right over, amyrose

yes INDEED

[Dogtown]

22. Pretty. Great voice. Hot. Flamboyant.

Love her stuff.

[Captain Hilts]

25. I think of her as a performance artist. nt

[Withywindle]

27. I like her too.

But I have to admit the reason I LOVE her is because of Johnny Weir:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iT9mkv4bwA


Work it, girl.

[TreasonousBastard]

30. What's not to like? She puts on a good show.

[hamsterjill]

31. I already confessed on here several weeks ago!!!

Already confessed that I'm hooked on Gaga's ("don't call me Gaga"!!!) music.

And I'm 51 years old. Pretty bad, huh? I love Speechless. Best lyrics I've heard in years.

[snooper2]

32. It's okay, you'll get over it someday...

Ever notice how she ripped of Michael Jackson's Thriller with that bad romance video?


Here's what a good voice sounds like :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUTRUovNb0

[XemaSab]

36. I'm not quite there

Her songs are almost awesome, but somehow don't do it for me. :shrug:

[KamaAina]

38. I feel your pain.

I know what you mean about glamorous, media-friendly pop acts.

But once in a generation, just to keep us honest, one comes along who is actually...

..good. :scared:

Christina Aguilera was the last to even approach this existential dilemma.