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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:08 PM
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Why is the personal pronoun 'I' capitalized
but the personal pronouns we, you, he, she, they are not? :shrug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:23 PM
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1. Because if it weren't capitalized, it would be lowercase.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 05:24 PM by Rabrrrrrr
And it isn't spelled with a lowercase 'i', it's spelled with a capital one.

:silly: :crazy:

Sorry, I was channeling teabegger/freeper/creation-science logic for a moment.

Actually, I don't know, though I suspect it's a holdover from the days when English was German, and nouns and pronouns were capitalized. Somehow we lost it on the other pronouns, but kept it on the I's.

Interesting question. I hope someone chimes in with the answer!
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:50 PM
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3. Personally, I think the
teabegger, freeper, creation-science logic would spin more towards: Because "I" am important and 'you/he/she/it/we/they' are not important.

Simple really.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:52 PM
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14. This
I is more important than you!
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:19 PM
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8. Know where 'lower case' comes from?
No googleing.
;-)
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:29 PM
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11. The trays of letters that printers used? n/t
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:39 PM
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12. You got it!
The 'small' letters were in the lower wooden case because they were used most and that made them easier to reach.
The capital (less used) letters were in the upper case.

When I was in journalism school in the early 60s I took a course in the now arcane practice of hand setting type.
You had to learn to read letters reversed (back-to-front) and backwards.
:shrug:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:47 PM
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13. W00t! It's official!
My mind is a vast repository for useless trivia. :P
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:55 PM
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15. i find it fascinating
that early on, a lot of typesetters were completely illiterate. They just matched the patterns up.

Which actually makes sense: it seems like it's a lot easier to invert words if you have no idea what it says
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MiddleFingerMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:32 PM
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18. That logic doesn't stand up...
.
...to the Central Scrutinizer.
.
"I" is the most oft-used pronoun of them all -- if "ease-of-reach" were a
factor, the pronoun "I" would use a lower-case letter (though the pronouns
us'ns and ya'll might be upper-case).
.
Took a printing course in college. The professor was fairly well-off and
had been responsible for instituting the course -- didn't hoit that he had
donated his printing press to the school.
.
We put together a book of poetry in what was considered "fine print publishing".
I would have LOVED a copy, but it was a VERY limited-edition run.
.
Pretty cool. The professor LIVED for that publishing -- said it was the motivation
for pretty much everything else he did.
.
He had this amazing walk-in wine cooler at his house and when he threw parties,
would not be parsimonious with the value of the wine bottles he brought up for
the purpose of our over-indulgence.
.
Needless to say... one of my favorite professors.
.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:39 PM
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2. My dear pokerfan!
Because I am the center of the universe, that's why!

:P
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:54 PM
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4. Actually, ve are the center of the universe...
This inane post has been brought to you by the letter 'V'...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 05:59 PM
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5. ROFL!
:rofl:
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tXr Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:06 PM
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6. Why does the English alphabet have a "double u" (w) but not a "double n" (m)?
:shrug:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:22 PM
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9. And a double 'U' is actually a double 'V'.
:shrug:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:08 PM
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7. Because there is no I in team!
:silly:
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:28 PM
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10. Yeah, it was "The 'A' Team" 'cause there IS an 'A' in teAm.


Everybody knows that.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:19 PM
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16. To make it easier to see back in the middle ages.
a lower-case I would tend to be hard to see in many medieval manuscripts.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:28 PM
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17. No idea, maybe I is distinct but i looks too much like a lowercase L or a 1 in
a lot of fonts.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:06 PM
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21. This has always made me laugh
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:04 AM
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24. heheh yeah - I know what you mean on both counts. I use the date command in
a lot of scripts, and I vaguely remember having a manual typewriter that didn't have a 1 key.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:07 PM
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22. Upper case I looks like an L in sans serif fonts.
I hate to see the word ill capitalized. It drives me bonkers. Bonkers I tell you. Usually the only difference is that two l's are slightly taller than the uppercase I. And that's just not right.

My first typewriter ever didn't have the number one on it--just 2 thru zero. I think they assumed that the lowercase L could double for the 1.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:02 AM
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23. Yeah, I was thinking of that too, but most sans serif was used for headings, whereas
the body with the text with more density would be in serif.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:38 PM
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19. Well, you know all about "you", don'tcha?
Or so I have read, anyway.

You used to be thou, or thee, depending on the form of speech. The "th" in the word is a dipthong, and one of the ways to symbolize this dipthong looks a lot like a lower-case "y", especially in a printing press. That's how thou became you. And I suspect it's how the upper case went away from the second person.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:04 PM
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20. In Spanish "yo" is not capitalized but "Usted" is.
I think the pronoun I is capitalized so that everything written in the English language doesn't look like emo teenaged angst poetry.

But more importantly, why do we park in a driveway and drive on a parkway?
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:44 AM
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25. I is the same as using your name as it doesn't describe someone else or is vague?
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 07:25 AM
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26. In German, the formal you (Sie) is capitalized
and the I (ich) is not capitalized.

Yes, I think that English's capitalizing "I" reveals something about the culture from which the language sprang.
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