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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 07:24 PM
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Excellent video, James Randi speaks.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 07:52 PM
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1. watch James Randi take a fatal dose of homeopathic sleeping pills onstage!
:rofl:
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 01:27 AM
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3. I laughed my head off too seeing that.
People pay money for worthless stuff. :eyes:

Astrology, faith healing, chiropractors, psychics, UFO's, etc.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 08:37 PM
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2. Great video! nt
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 02:35 AM
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4. I would not defend people that make claims he debunks.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 02:55 AM by RandomThoughts
But I would say to him just because he does not have a set of experiences, does not mean those things do not exist.


Although many times people make claims that are not true, and I don't think it is people controlling things, I do know that supernatural things exist. Although I do not make claims of the forms, there are many thoughts that things claiming to be ancestors are just the same things that were around those ancestors lives, or lies. Also the concept of a person being a historical figure, could just be that the person has similar ideology, so makes similar decisions or has similar concepts.



Interestingly, there are some things that go beyond possibility of coincidence, some others you can see the patterns that put the thought to lead to something.

So for example, if 10 people were led into a different rooms, and asked what food was in a cardboard box, and they all picked the same vegetable. Someone might think it is psychic, but what if they all walked by the same billboards and the same garden before being asked the question. It is possible to put the thought in someones mind first.

I have fun posting songs that I see are like answers to comment, some fit better then others, and some actually are suggested by people with hints. Sometimes there is a string of posts or links in videos that lead to making a post. In other words, it is possible to set up a chain that allows for correlations to appear.

For example, when someone posted about beagles, I posted about snoopy, that would be easy to prime. The snoopy dance is part of the Whedon Scrips, and is only about 4 or 5 links away in my mind. That would be an example of priming a post.

Another would be a hint from a writer about a music group, then remembering the hint, when a second correlation occurred, it was possible to match those songs, and I think that was a hint. but it still was pretty good, and usually there are a few others that correlate pretty good also. However you have to see the second meaning, so maybe other people don't see that. That is a possibility also.

However I would Challenge James Randi to look at all the posts of songs made, and see if he could explain correlations that occur above random chance. Honestly I don't even know if anyone could do the computations, they are above my mind being able to do.

But honestly I don't think Randi is a bad person, but I have seen modifications to space time in person. So either I hallucinate, or I know it is real. I think he just has a different set of circumstances in his life, so he has not seen those things. And if the supernatural wanted him to know it did exist, he would, but I also have found that much of the supernatural is happy if people do not believe, and the other parts, do not want people to know since it fundamentally changes your views of existence, I actually think for the most part it is mild and kept unproven for a reason. Nor do I think a person could willfully make it proven to someone that is not suppose to see it.

I actually think that if a full review of all the songs done, and the sequencing, it would prove the supernatural beyond random coincidence, even with the times when I am just pinging off of hints. However I don't say I do anything, just that there is a fabric of consistency in creation, and you can see patterns that can not be explained in anything normal.




I can say this for certainty, there have been anomalies that can be argued above coincidence. And in person, I have seen manipulations of time space. So either I am nuts, maybe being fed to squirrels :) or the supernatural is real :)

But I have no problem with what he thinks, but would like to know at what point does synchronicity prove the supernatural?



Taking it to another level. In the movie Matix, Neo made a statement. I am going to show them what you don't want them to see, from there it is up to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt5b7hAN9IQ


Neo: I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid... you're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

Now I don't have any delusions of grandeur, but my point is some of what he said is true. I think rules and controls are good, but if you replaced that with limitations and oppression, and the 'world without you' being false methods of controlling people by fear, well then it makes sense.

So what would that mean? It would be better for all that existed to end then for a system meant to be unjust to be allowed to continue. So from that perspective, and the knowledge that I don't do anything, I think that showing that there is more then the normal reality going on is important.

Why is it so important? Because most of the leaders know it is out there, and they don't all react to the good side, many of them are actually listening to the bad side, and actually forming policies based on things like those songs posted.

I think Cheney's man size safe was his tin hat. I would guess he believed it was aliens and radio waves, but regardless, at some point everyone knowing there is a supernatural collapses its ability to control, because people are prepared for the stupid games played to control or scare them when they hit a place of power, or try to do something worthy. So at some point showing the supernatural exist is calling the bluff of the bad side of the supernatural.

If it melts everything, no biggy, its not like any person really does anything anyways right? So that is the theory behind showing synchronicity and the supernatural exist.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 03:43 AM
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5. I should add.
Some of the supernatural is good, but that part does not seem to be controlling, and is definitely not fear based.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 09:26 AM
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8. I think you have totally missed the point of James Randi
Your post shows a lack of understanding of objectivity vs subjectivity, the way the scientific method works but mostly something I really despise magical thinking- sorry the supernatural doesn't exist just because you or others believe it's so, anymore than there were WMD's in Iraq because certain politicians believed it was so.magical thinking is extremely irrational and dangerous IMO.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 03:57 AM
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6. For those that think my comments are unreal.
The people doing cerimonies at bohemian grove believe in the supernatural.
Many secret societies also do.
As do most religious people.


The argument is, have they seen something other people have not, or are they creating it in there own minds?
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 05:59 AM
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7. Oh well, the bohemian grove...
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