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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 01:35 PM
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Best speech from a movie. ID4
Edited on Sun May-09-10 02:31 PM by RandomThoughts
Independance Day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgaPSAGDd0k


"Get the news out to all the world, we know how to defeat them."


Some other clips from the movie.
http://privatepreview.movieclips.com/watch/independence_day_1996/close_encounter/
http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=547176



(note that I do not believe in aliens, only as metaphor, in that we can defeat those that want people to die. No more death stars.

The fight to Life!!!!!!! not death)

:loveya:


On a Happy Mothers Day!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 01:37 PM
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1. Kevin Costner's closing argument in JFK -- "Do not forget your dying king."
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 01:38 PM
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2. this one...
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:03 PM
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3. I like this one.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:12 PM
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5. Interesting.
Edited on Sun May-09-10 05:23 PM by RandomThoughts
So what is he saying, take away guns? I specifically said guns were light and truth not violence in metaphor of the clips. When I watch a clip that has violence, I change the meaning so not to see the violence. So the flaws that are in everything can be ignored.


Interesting how it matches up. What else did he say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7upG01-XWbY


I just posted this in another thread, should have posted it here.
Smooth Operator.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ESqcg6jPCA

You can't live by the store, people are not for sale.
All people have dignity and will stay that way.

Life Therapy.




Bring it on.
What about Bob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJM52tIZvo





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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 11:52 PM
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17. He said a whole lot more than take away the guns.
If you focus on that, you miss a great speech...a great MOVIE speech.

That's like focusing on Bluto saying the Germans bombed Pearl harbor.

Forget it. He's on a roll.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:22 PM
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19. Well I have to say, I have no opinion on chemically propelled
things used for violence. I found a metaphor or a translation in it based on some correlations.

So again, my point is more about sequencing that tells a story, that I find interesting, not what he was actually talking about.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:08 PM
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4. political... no brainer
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:13 PM
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6. Rick Blaine: Casablanca (1942)
And you never will. But I've got a job to do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Ilsa, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that.

Now, now. Here's looking at you, kid.
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AllenVanAllen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 05:45 PM
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7. Here's one I love.


From Contact spoken to Ellie Arroway during her alien encounter.

"You're an interesting species. An interesting mix. You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares. You feel so lost, so cut off, so alone, only you're not. See, in all our searching, the only thing we've found that makes the emptiness bearable, is each other."



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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:05 PM
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9. the Ellie Arroway line that always sticks with me is her closing line
Edited on Sun May-09-10 07:12 PM by Bucky
On the prospect that there's no alien life out there: "I'll tell you one thing about the universe, though. The universe is a pretty big place. It's bigger than anything anyone has ever dreamed of before. So if it's just us... seems like an awful waste of space. Right?"
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AllenVanAllen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 10:54 PM
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14. That's a good one.

That movie is full of great lines, like this exchange:

David Drumlin - I know you must think this is all very unfair. Maybe that's an understatement. What you don't know is I agree. I wish the world was a place where fair was the bottom line, where the kind of idealism you showed at the hearing was rewarded, not taken advantage of. Unfortunately, we don't live in that world.

Ellie Arroway - Funny, I've always believed that the world is what we make of it.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:02 PM
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8. John Wayne's talk on the word "republic" in The Alamo
Makes me cry every time. Sadly, you gotta slog through a whole lot of boring ass monologs before you get to that speech. But it's a classic.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:06 PM
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10. That is just so... hyperemotive, cliche, and poorly written.
I'm sorry, but it does nothing for me. Nor does the cliche reaction of the crowd members.

That was a great concept for a movie, but it was poorly executed, and the ending especially was pathetically contrived.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:16 PM
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13. I don't think it is contrived.
Edited on Sun May-09-10 09:36 PM by RandomThoughts
You can see the Randy Quaid Cameo in this video, posted yesterday. Also a few others in it.

I think it is impressive.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=9358946&mesg_id=9359556



And don't forget the movie also has the line, they use the satellites against us, so a hit of pride is not a bad thing, and it is not about politics. Got to know who you are, and be able to ignore what is not true. Part of not playing the game.

It seems all people can do is judge other people. LOL, and only from what they think they know. I guess it fits the idea of them thinking they are geniuses, I think it is a good song and a good movie.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 07:23 PM
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11. Well there's always this one....
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:11 PM
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12. I like the line.
"Had to see about a girl"

Love first.

:loveya:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 11:07 PM
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15. Gene Hackman, Hoosiers
Edited on Sun May-09-10 11:09 PM by pokerfan
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Ryano42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 11:35 PM
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16. Though based in reality, David Strathairn knocks it out of the park...
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:26 PM
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20. +1
:applause: :toast: :applause:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:03 PM
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28. One of the best movies of the decade.
Strathairn totally nailed Murrow.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:08 AM
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18. Rather than debate which is best, just skip to the essential parts of them all
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:31 PM
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21. It is funny, it goes off track on a couple places, but nice video
Edited on Mon May-10-10 02:17 PM by RandomThoughts
:)

And well done, and it does tell a story.


Safety Dance ! - Men Without Hats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs


Going to juice this one up.
http://www.break.com/index/stop_motion_hand_tricks.html



(wait, as in serve, as in waiter. And there was a change of context, so it is social security, not as that program, but as a concept. Shouldn't have to explain this.)
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:55 PM
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26. Was knocking down the visceral elements.
You have to understand that video I replied to was a trap. What it does is make it so that it takes what is good, but adds really bad stuff also. So it paints an image of good, with an undercurrent of bad.

So that bad has to be knocked down, but that does not comment on the actual speeches, writers of those speeches, or people who acted in them, but a comment about how the assembling of the clips creates a trap and goes out of context.

Hence the people that set that trap, are no friends, but people that believe in the better ways in parts of those clips are good.

See the difference, it is the level being responded to, the level that makes claims, the level that advocates violence, and sews in bad into many other good speeches.

Hence the trap of it, since a response to the post can be seen in many ways, a response to any of the clips, the sequence of the clips, the ideas of the clips, or its intent.

And that intent was knocked down without commenting on the individuals.

It really depends what level you look at it.

The writers of those movies,
The actors.
The assembling of clips
the sequence of the clips
The intent behind the assembling and sequencing
the effect of intent on view.

Each is another level.

So sometimes knocking down one level should not effect the others.
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Crystal Clarity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:40 PM
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22. Al Pacino in 'Scent Of A Woman'
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 01:42 PM
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23. Arthur Jensen
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:32 PM
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24. Part of it is in my sig line:
Frederick (Max Von Sydow) from Woody Allen's Hanna and Her Sisters:

"It's been ages since I sat in front of the TV, changing channels to find something. You see the whole culture: Nazis, deodorant salesmen, wrestlers, beauty contests, a talk show. But the worst are the fundamentalist preachers; third-rate con men telling the poor suckers that they speak for Jesus. And to please send in money. Money! Money! Money! If Jesus Christ ever came back and saw what's going on in His name, He'd never stop throwing up."

mikey_the_rat
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 02:40 PM
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25. The opening scene in Patton tops them all.
"When you put your hand into a bunch of goo that a moment before was your best friend's face....you'll know what to do."

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5cb_1178900597&o=1
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:13 PM
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31. +10
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:03 PM
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27. Kenneth Branagh's speech in Henry V
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:09 PM
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29. Henry V offers several contenders.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 07:26 PM
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34. They shall have no ransom I swear, but these my joints...
"They shall have no ransom I swear, but these my joints..."

It's a classic for a reason :)





If today's movies are quoted in four hundred years, I'll offer an apology, but for now-- it's all simply bubble gum.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:12 PM
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30. Not the best quote,but one that has always stuck with me.
BLADE RUNNER - I've seen things



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8&feature=related

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in rain... Time to die.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 03:24 PM
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32. One of my favorite clips, He thinks what he is will be lost.
But the dove caries it upward. Love that symbolism, one act of contrition, changing from just seeking ones own life to protecting another, and he is not forgotten.

It says something else also, if you live hurting others, there will be a time when the pain of the realization of that, will be removed from you. Although it is possible for a person to hurt someone while in love, like protecting a person against another, and in that the pain of the action will be remembered as the intent to do good. But if you spend most of your life unfeeling, what will be left of your story when the hardship and pain, the tears, are whipped away. I think it will be the joyous moments of kindness and wonder that we will have, and for those very few that do not feel, they will have very little to be remember.

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 04:20 PM
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33. Not from a movie - but my all time #1 favorite
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Ghost of Tom Joad Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 07:26 PM
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35. Grand Canyon
Steve Martin says to Kevin Kline:

"That's part of your problem, you know, you haven't seen enough movies. All of life's riddles are answered in the movies"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PI8VXaQiWs&feature=PlayList&p=29BD238FE8A0A11D&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=14

near the end of the trailer
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 08:30 AM
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36. Ned Beatty in "Network"
Jensen: You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!

Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.

Beale: But why me?

Jensen: Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of the week, Monday through Friday.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:53 AM
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37. Quint speech in Jaws USS Indianapolis
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:08 PM
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38. Hans Gruber!
Edited on Tue May-11-10 12:09 PM by Touchdown


"Ladies and Gentlemen! Ladies and Gentlemen!

Now. Due to the Nakatomi Corporation's legacy of greed around the world, they are about to be taught a lesson in the real use of power.
You will be witnesses."
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:22 PM
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40. I thought Alan Rickman was so much better
as Hans Gruber than he was as the Sheriff of Nottingham... yet, his role in Robin Hood seems to be more praised.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 12:48 PM
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39. Theoden before the charge
to break the seige on Minas Tirith
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 01:29 PM
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41. He gave a great speech there
Kind of made Aragorn/Viggo Mortensen speech at the end pale in comparison.

I love that whole charge of the Rohirrim scene - sometimes, when I'm home alone, I just turn on that scene & crank up the home theater so the whole room shakes.
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