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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:36 PM
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James Cameron talks Avatar 2 and Avatar 3
Sounds good to me.


With Avatar returning to cinemas in elongated form at the end of the month, writer/director James Cameron has been doing a few interviews to help stoke the fires for the return of the blue people. And inevitably, as part of that, he's been talking about the planned sequels to the box office-dominating original.

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/558452/james_cameron_talks_avatar_2_and_avatar_3.html
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:42 PM
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1. Is this necessary?
I like Avatar, but I can't see a sequel.
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:12 PM
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4. Yeah, the ending kinda sets it up...
Blue Kittehs send Humans home, Earth gets pissed, sends epicly massive invasion force to take back Pandora.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:38 PM
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6. It's basically the first film then...
Humans vs. Na'vi. It worked originally, but why would I want to see it again?

I liked Avatar, BTW.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:16 AM
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17. Since Avatar was about every resource war in American history
from the trail of tears to the war in Iraq, I think the sequel should be about what happens when oppressed groups gain power and become the oppressor. In other words it should be about Mormons, Bolsheviks, Israel etc.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:23 PM
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5. I'm with you on that.
The original film definitely left open the possibility of a sequel, but I would rather it not be made. Being left with things to ponder can be a good thing.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 01:52 PM
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2. Sure wish he'd hire somebody else to write the scripts.
it would be nice to see all that gee whiz high tech in service of a good story.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:01 PM
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3. Saw it in IMAX 3D a few months ago.
More impressed by the effects than the story. In fact I barely recall the story, but I do remember being impressed by the 3D, especially those little jellyfish creatures.


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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:12 AM
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16. The story was basically American History 101.
From the trail of tears to the war in iraq.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:28 PM
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7. Hopefully this time he can add an emotional factor equalling the technical brilliance.
This movie made you want to react emotionally, but didn't actually cause much emotional reaction. At least for me. Similar themes such as Princess Mononoke, Local Hero, and others, grab me and don't let go. Avatar was astonishing to behold, but with only suggestions of emotional factors upon which to hold. Trying too hard...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:52 PM
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10. I thought the movie was very moving.
:shrug:
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:20 PM
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19. It certainly was designed to be. Very much so. Bit it lacked a true emotional connect, IMO.
That's just me. I loved the same message in other films.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 04:48 PM
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8. There's only one real minor problem with this...
There's not enough money in the world to make Avatar 3.

If Avatar cost $500 million, Avatar 3 will cost what, five billion dollars, require fifty barrels of blue body paint and take twenty-nine years to make?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 05:51 PM
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9. Sweet!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:04 PM
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11. The next move should be Avatar vs Aliens vs Terminators on a sinking ship.
:D
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:12 PM
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12. vs Predators
:evilgrin:
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:01 AM
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14. ending up on the ocean floor with benevolent aliens
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Ghost of Tom Joad Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 08:27 PM
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13. please no one was more than enough
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 03:10 AM
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15. Awesome. It should have won best picture.
The movie that won was horrible. I suspect there was a coordinated effort to keep Avatar from winning, which is what the 10 nominees thing was about.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:29 PM
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25. Seriously?
You think Dances with Ferngully in Space should have won best picture?
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:20 AM
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18. I thought that this was going to be about the upcoming Smurfs movie.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 12:58 PM
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20. Heh. You are so funny
Don't see you around much-but post something with James Cameron in it..There you are. Now I know how to get an Orrex to bite...:rofl:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:05 PM
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21. My DU Preferences are coded to send me an alert whenever Cameron is mentioned favorably
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:20 PM
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22. ZZZZZzzzzzzzz. Avatar was one of the most boring, hyped and over rated movies
I've ever seen.

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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 01:29 PM
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23. I hate you James Cameron.
I hate you so fucking much.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:28 PM
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24. Did he promise that 2 and 3 would suck as much as the first one?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 02:42 PM
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26. Only if it's about how immoral unemotional technology always wins over sustainable living and nature
and the oppressed always become the oppressors upon liberation.

Avatar 2 should be earth coming back and damn-near annihilating the Na'vi and enslaving them, putting them into reservations and raping the entirety of the resources of the planet. It ends darkly and hopelessly.

Avatar 3 is the rise of the Na'vi under a warrior-hero who brings them to salvation and helps the people overthrow all earthlings on the planet and win their freedom. Warrior-hero then begins a genocidal campaign against those tribes who didn't help in the liberation, using the technology left behind by the humans, and sets up a very hierarchical class structure among his own people in which only the highest enjoy the fruits of the technology and the labor of the underclasses. The slaves of the humans become the slaves of the liberators. It ends darkly and hopelessly.

And in both, the moral story will be driven home just as heavy-handedly and inelegantly as in Avatar 1, and the dialogue will be just as stilted, to help ensure a sense of continuity between the three movies.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 07:48 PM
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27. James Cameron's Matrix?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-13-10 08:09 PM
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28. Only if it's as badly done.
:P
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