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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 11:55 AM
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Am I the only one that thinks Lady Gaga's songs are stupid?
or think her act is rather silly?
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Amaril Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 11:55 AM
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1. No, you're not. n/t
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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 11:57 AM
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2. No, I am sure you are not
However, obviously, a lot of people like her songs and her act. Otherwise she would not be popular.
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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 11:57 AM
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3. Let me guess.. you're straight and you haven't gone out dancing in years. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:23 PM
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10. Now is it nice to stereotype?
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 12:25 PM by NJmaverick
:hi: even if you're right?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 11:57 AM
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4. I can't say that I would know one if I heard it.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:22 PM
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7. Here
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:08 PM
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5. If I've ever heard one, I wouldn't recognize it - but the NAME ALONE is stupid.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:22 PM
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8. Here
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:16 PM
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6. Who?
I'm old, and with so little time and so few brain cells left to spend, I leave it to the younger generation to figure out popular culture.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:22 PM
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9. Here
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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:26 PM
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11. Even though the songs aren't brainy, I think she is
She is making a boatload of cash on those stupid songs and that silly act and not everyone can do that or they probably would be. I'd trade in my trucking career for being a rich, seemingly mindless pop star anytime.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:28 PM
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12. Rather I think you don't get it.
The whole act is a send-up, an act of camp. An intentional act of absurdism meant to mock traditional values and conservatism through a combination of hyper-literal pantomime folly and amoralistic shock. You're either inside the joke or you're outside the joke. If you're outside the joke, it's certainly going to seem stupid and silly.

Trust me, it's great and the entire very point, other than to make some great dance music, is to piss off the fundies. She's also a pretty kickass unwavering activist for GLBTQ people and their rights.

I'm reminded of how much people who didn't "get" rock music (my grandparents, for one) were appalled and dismissive of Elvis and the Beatles.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:37 PM
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13. But that whole shock the bourgeoise shtick is very old, played out, and pointless...
particularly when it is the bourgeoise, with delusions of being edgy, producing and consuming that tired product.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:46 PM
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16. But it's with a twist...
it's not "shock the bourgies", it's "shock the fundies who think they're the bourgies"

Frankly, I'm surprised we haven't gotten a speech on Lady Gaga from Sarah Palin yet.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:52 PM
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17. I imagine that fundies could care less about Gaga...
they are always more concerned about those who they see as aspotates
such as adulterous christian music entertainers and such
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:38 PM
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14. Stupid in what sense? I only know 2 & they meet my criteria: a MELODY
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 12:43 PM by UTUSN
I don't look at videos, so that might delete one level of stupidity for me. Plus, lyrics and just-rhythm are non-existent as criteria for me. If the music has a MELODY, a catchy-tuneful-hooky MELODY, that puts it at the top. After that I might pay attention to the lyrics and usually a good melody is going to have good-everything.

So, Ms GAGA, at least for me in "Bad Romance" and "Alejandro" passes the catchy-tune test. AND she has a good voice. The only other one I've heard is "Pokerface" and didn't get past the tune level.


Somebody in their 20s?/30s was trying to clue me in to kewl music and played something without identifying it. This person claimed this was the epitome of kewl-ness. After a minute or two of NO discernible melody, depressing at that, I put my arms straight out in front of me and said, "This is ZOMBIE music." It was something by Pink Floyd, whoever that is. There was only a couple of little places, like a "bridge"?, where it had a tuneful interlude.

Bottom line, she's got the melody thing and the voice, don't need to look at her or her act. But "Bad Romance" has sort of wound down for me in appeal, like it's got an expiration date.

As for lyrics, was it Dr (Samuel?) JOHNSON who said, "What is too silly to be SAID, is SUNG." On Edit: Google tells me it was VOLTAIRE.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 01:00 PM
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18. She swept the MTV awards, so you are not alone
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 12:40 PM
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15. To each their own.
I like her music,her act is a hoot.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 01:00 PM
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19. She swept the MTV awards, so you are not alone
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-13-10 02:11 PM
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20. In the genre of pop music, I'd say her songs are about the best - creative and interesting.
Edited on Mon Sep-13-10 02:14 PM by Rabrrrrrr
But, as I said, only in the realm of pop music. She's not quite got the creativity of a Michael Jackson or a Madonna writing in that genre, but she's close.

I also like that she actually sings her music - she doesn't wail out something close and then let the engineers fix the pitches and cut and paste 20 takes to get a track laid down. She knows her music, I'll give her that; knows it enough that she can inject at least some level of integrity, creative artistry, and intellectual interest into the songs she does.

And I think she's quite smart, and she has a real cleverness in how she presents herself and what she's doing with her shtick (and I believe it is shtick and that she's quite aware and very intentional about it; not fake shtick like Brittney, N'Sync, or other shitty pop stars who don't think about things but just do shit because it seems "cool at the time" or because some producer says "You'll earn a million more dollars this year if you wear this/do that/say this/act like that").

Now, in terms of music in general, yes, her songs are pretty stupid. It's pop music. Disposable, no real lasting longevity, formulaic, demographically-engineered industrial consumption-based drivel like the vast majority of pop music.



Still, GaGa's music is the type that infects the ear and brain in a way that only a dose of 20-30 minutes of Stockhausen or Pink Floyd can cure.
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